How do you feel about the porn fetishizing certain bodies?

Nazaress Nazaress 03/07/2012

When it comes to porn, the "default" is young, white, cis-gendered, and straight. But there are certain genres out there that "separate" certain bodies and turn them into a fetish, rather than holding them as equal and equally attractive to the default. This includes: Asians (particularly Asian women and Asian transgenders), black people (particularly men), transgenders in general (particularly transwomen), older individuals (particularly "MILFS"), and others that I'm sure I'm forgetting to include right now. How do you feel about this?

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HugsAndBites HugsAndBites
you like what you like
03/07/2012
Nazaress Nazaress
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you like what you like
I suppose. But there's a difference between saying "I am attracted to anyone and would be a in a relationship with anyone, transsexual or not" and "I'm going to fuck this tranny whore just for fun".

(Please excuse the language and the offensive term. It's to prove a point that this is what fetishization does to these groups of people. It makes them objects, rather than people.)
03/07/2012
NarcissisticLust NarcissisticLust
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Porn is a business industry. Separating different body types is probably not intended discrimination, it is marketing. In any other situation, I would frown upon separating people based on their body types.
03/07/2012
Sammi Sammi
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Originally posted by Nazaress
I suppose. But there's a difference between saying "I am attracted to anyone and would be a in a relationship with anyone, transsexual or not" and "I'm going to fuck this tranny whore just for fun".

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There's also a difference in saying, for example, "I'm attracted to anyone" and "I'm only attracted to older women." If you're only like older women, for this example, then you want to watch porn that has older women, not porn that features everything else but.
03/07/2012
Nazaress Nazaress
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Originally posted by Sammi
There's also a difference in saying, for example, "I'm attracted to anyone" and "I'm only attracted to older women." If you're only like older women, for this example, then you want to watch porn that has older ... More
This is very true and I definitely believe that some of the people who watch the porn they categorize under "fetish" porn are watching it simply because of that: It's what attracts them. For example, they may be attracted to black men so they seek this genre since white people are more prevalent in traditional porn. There is definitely nothing wrong with this. I also know that there are those who view it in the way that I stated and that, in my opinion, it seems the porn industry may be targeting these types. I just think it'd be much, much nicer if "regular" porn wasn't young, white, cis-people and "fetish" porn didn't contain everyone else. I wish that there was more variety in "regular" porn, period, so these groups can feel included and not like they're something separate from what's normally in "regular" porn. If that makes sense.
03/07/2012
DreamWolf DreamWolf
I don't mind it to tell the truth, it disturbs me more when the ladies look so "artificial", their hairstyle, makeup, not to mention when they have fake bosom, ahhh, almost a total turnoff!!! :S:S:S
03/07/2012
tA tA
I don't really mind. I'm not a picky person.
03/07/2012
js250 js250
There are types for every person, why watch porn you don't like to get to the parts you do like? I don't find a problem with this, it helps to narrow down all the movies, areas you visit so you can watch what you are interested in.
03/08/2012
GoneBabyGone GoneBabyGone
I'm a redhead, ad I've got some extra weight. There two more fetishes for you: redheads and chubbys.

I don't see anything wrong with it really. I already think porn is dehumanizing, separating things into categories just helps companies market better. It also helps people who ar epicky find porn they like.

I don't watch porn, but If I did I'm relatively picky on what I see as visually appealing.

I'm pansexual and find persoanlities attractive. When it comes to porn I don't have a personality to go with so I have to objectify and go strictly on what I see as personally attractive.

Probably one of the reasons I'm so uncomfortable watching porn. 0.o
03/08/2012
DiamondKoala DiamondKoala
I've never really had a problem with it since it does create a better experience for certain people who are into that fetish.
03/08/2012
GONE! GONE!
It really depends on how it's marketed and described. It's disturbing to only have porn representing the sort of bodies society considers "normal" but it's also disturbing to always see dehumanizing language and situations surrounding the stuff representing everybody else. People find all sorts of other people hot, porn shouldn't have to assume anyone who watches, say, a video featuring an older, overweight, Asian trans woman has a kinky fetish when everyone is going to be sexy to someone and it's perfectly natural.

I would love to see more porn stuff featuring people outside the porno stereotypes and that is treated as perfectly "normal" fapping material.
03/09/2012
Nazaress Nazaress
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Originally posted by GONE!
It really depends on how it's marketed and described. It's disturbing to only have porn representing the sort of bodies society considers "normal" but it's also disturbing to always see dehumanizing language and situations ... More
This is exactly what I was getting at. Thank you!
03/09/2012
- Kira - - Kira -
I'm attracted to blonde girls with blue eyes or brunettes with blue eyes. If they made some porn (and I'm sure it exists I just haven't dug around) with only blue eyed people, I'd totally buy it. It's not a fetish, just a strong preference. I also prefer pale skin over tan, also not a fetish. Having categories of porn helps to separate what I'll likely be interested in.

For example, I have a friend who is attracted to pregnant females. Cool by me, but I don't really wanna see a lot of pregnant girls in the porn I buy/watch. In the same way, one may not want to see other types of people in their porn. To me, the classification of white/black/Asian/preg nant/MILF/whatever is no different than saying "straight" or "gay" porn. It's just a way to separate it out. If you had a porn with a little bit of everything, you'd have to buy a lot of porn to get three scenes you were really into, you know?

I think overall that if you made a hodgepodge video like that it simply wouldn't sell and at the end of the day porn is a business. Making a nice, well rounded porn might be good for morale and such, but if it collects dust on shelves and the company loses money on it, it doesn't matter much.

That said, I have seen some that overdo it. There's no need to dehumanize different types of people in porn. Not all porn does this, but there is certainly some that does. That I'm not a fan of.
03/09/2012
Nazaress Nazaress
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Originally posted by - Kira -
I'm attracted to blonde girls with blue eyes or brunettes with blue eyes. If they made some porn (and I'm sure it exists I just haven't dug around) with only blue eyed people, I'd totally buy it. It's not a fetish, just a strong ... More
I can understand categorizing it, as offensive as it can seem, because of everything you said. I guess my problem with it is the way they advertise it and treat the supposed "fetish" groups (and the fact that they call them "fetishes" at all as opposed to normal sexual preferences). Like you said, they can dehumanize them.
03/09/2012
dhig dhig
i don't mind. there's such a variety of porn out there.
03/12/2012
- Kira - - Kira -
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Originally posted by Nazaress
I can understand categorizing it, as offensive as it can seem, because of everything you said. I guess my problem with it is the way they advertise it and treat the supposed "fetish" groups (and the fact that they call them ... More
Yeah, I totally agree with that. There's ways to categorize less offensively.
03/12/2012
Errant Venture Errant Venture
I don't particularly care.
03/13/2012
unfulfilled unfulfilled
Ewveryone has preferences.
03/13/2012
Ciao. Ciao.
While I don't mind people having a wide variety of preferences, I do think the porn industry (like most media) tends to reduce many groups down to a very limited caricature of what they're actually like. While I don't mind any of these groups being depicted in porn, I think the depictions and categorizations are often a little troubling...and is part of the reason that I usually don't have much interest in mainstream porn.
03/13/2012
Alyxx Alyxx
I agree that separating things out helps "specialize" the market so people can buy what they want. Honestly I would watch just about any of the categories outside of the norm. I'm not a big fan of super skinny artificial looking girls. I don't think all of those categories listed really get to the point of fetishizing body types, though. I do think Asians and transsexuals get the short end of that stick, so to speak. However, you can also find non fetishized porn with a cast that isn't the norm by searching out porn made for those groups instead of mainstream porn targeting those groups.
03/13/2012
El-Jaro El-Jaro
It's really all a categorization thing, methinks.

I can understand the desire to say "this is the group of porn that is really sexy and is the penultimate sex you'll ever see" and have it be a mix of everything. However, not everyone is turned on by same-sex or hetero-sex scenes, for example.

I wouldn't think of it as fetishizing though, I don't think it's that personal.
03/13/2012
Alatariel Surion Alatariel Surion
I don't mind the categorization aspect of "non-mainstream" porn. Heck, that makes it easier for me to navigate according to my interests.

No, what I often have a problem with -- and this really goes for the vast majority of pornography -- is the gross dehumanizing aspect that goes along with it. There's a sense of combined mockery and titillation there. Derogatory insults are often directed toward the "stars" of the flick. You don't know how many times I have tried (and failed) to watch BBW porn only to see some poor girl get spit on and called a 'plumper' and a 'piggy' and made to eat lots of food during the shoot and it feels like they're laughing at her even while they're fucking her. It churns my stomach and even triggers some of my own memories of mental/emotional abuse regarding my size.

It *is* okay to have preferences for anything. Really. What *isn't* okay is presenting it in an offensive way.
03/13/2012
Nazaress Nazaress
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Originally posted by Alatariel Surion
I don't mind the categorization aspect of "non-mainstream" porn. Heck, that makes it easier for me to navigate according to my interests.

No, what I often have a problem with -- and this really goes for the vast majority of ... More
That was essentially my point and thank you for adding to the discussion.
03/14/2012
jokerzwild jokerzwild
Don't mind it at all, everyone has there tastes and having porn categorized in that way allows you to get what you want. I wouldn't want to pay for a porn and watch 20% of it because I wasn't attracted to the other participants because it was all lumped together.
03/14/2012
spineyogurt spineyogurt
I think its alright
03/15/2012
underHim underHim
Everyone has their own thing and as long as there is nothing like animals or children involved I am pretty much ok with it. With porn if you make it ... They will cum. (that was horrible I know). Everyone likes to do and watch their own thing. I like hardcore bdsm porn and it can be hard to find that without latex or foot fetishes involved so I just fast forward through the stuff we don't like!
03/15/2012
Marcianpro Marcianpro
I guess I dont' mind that much
03/18/2012
purple579 purple579
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Originally posted by NarcissisticLust
Porn is a business industry. Separating different body types is probably not intended discrimination, it is marketing. In any other situation, I would frown upon separating people based on their body types.
I agree
03/19/2012
xilliannax xilliannax
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Originally posted by NarcissisticLust
Porn is a business industry. Separating different body types is probably not intended discrimination, it is marketing. In any other situation, I would frown upon separating people based on their body types.
I completely agree with Narcissistic Lust. The only issue I have is when people push their bodies to morbid obesity or heroin chic to meet the demand.

I know several BBWs in porn that REFUSE to lose weight even though its causing MAJOR health issues because their weight is a source of income
04/12/2012
<3BF <3BF
anything and anyone could be considered a fetish. I don't think there is a porn 'default'
04/12/2012
P3ngu1n78 P3ngu1n78
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anything and anyone could be considered a fetish. I don't think there is a porn 'default'
But Nazaress is right that most porn features the same kind of people.
05/12/2012
BlooJay BlooJay
I don't mind it. Everybody has their own thing that turns them on.
05/13/2012
chantalgiardina chantalgiardina
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everyone likes what they like..its different for everyone..
05/14/2012
pinkzombie pinkzombie
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I have noticed this to an extent. It does not really bother though. I think to each there own.
06/06/2012
Kitka Kitka
I don't mind it but I can understand how it would bother some people.
06/06/2012
legna legna
It seems judgmental to me.
06/30/2012
CreamySweet CreamySweet
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I am glad to be separated into the MILF class. I don't care - for sure more folks are turned on and want to see some 20 something hardbody - male or female - getting it on and so what - good for them. I am comfortable being in a fringe-fetish and specialty class.
07/09/2012
Errant Venture Errant Venture
I just noticed the wording of 'porn fetishizing certain bodies'. I query whether or not that's accurate. It's not so much the porn industry that's doing the fetishing (fetishising?), but rather it's people who have these fetishes, and the porn industry - as has been stated - is merely responding to a need - not creating it.
07/09/2012
g- g-
People like what they like. Who am I to critique their taste? Plus with the Internet you can find whatever you "need".
07/12/2012
deltalima deltalima
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Not my thing but to each his own.
07/12/2012
neil i. neil i.
Having formerly worked in adult retail, I have seen a lot of boxcovers and blurbs for all sorts of porn. It's apparent that the entire industry can be shamelessly obnoxious, but I often find it offensive when it involves certain demographics. MILFs/age-related niche stuff doesn't bother me, but the presentation of differently-sized and/or nonwhite performers can be really toxic.

It's tricky to get into this issue without getting a little thought police about people's sexual desires. However, taking the premise that the majority (say, 85%) of porn is dehumanizing, it seems that once you start looking for this type of content, 99% of it is marketed in a dehumanizing fashion. And I guess my biggest problem with this is that if your desires fall outside of the typical porn bodies, you end up with a lot of unpleasant baggage.
07/24/2012
brevado brevado
Whatever floats your boat.. so long as the other person is cool with it
07/25/2012
yummyinmytummy yummyinmytummy
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Originally posted by NarcissisticLust
Porn is a business industry. Separating different body types is probably not intended discrimination, it is marketing. In any other situation, I would frown upon separating people based on their body types.
i agree. it makes it easier to find what your loooking for
07/27/2012
squire squire
As humans, we are wired for categorical thinking. Our preferences change depending on culture, and our innate cycle (as seen with women when ovulating vs menstrating). I don't think it's bad that companies are strategic with their marketing as we like what we like, and are drawn to novelty, at least initially. I think what can be more damaging are the messages we grow up with, which inform how we perceive the world and manage the info we retain. If a parent takes the time and patience to teach critical thinking, importance of intimacy, conflict resolution, and human value, those who view porn will be able to maintain the value of all people we view. I guess where I am going with this is that it can be a problem when we don't know how to value others or chose not too see the value in others. If we can, then we will be more resistant to falling into the trap of objectification without value or personhood. Just my thoughts though...
08/06/2012
tony tony
It intimidates me actually. Girls/guys expect me to have a big penis.
12/11/2012
Zandrock Zandrock
I do not really care. People can watch whatever they choose.
12/12/2012
Rawr4483 Rawr4483
I don't mind either way.
12/12/2012
Robespierrethecat Robespierrethecat
It makes me uncomfortable.
12/12/2012
Stagger13 Stagger13
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Never really bothered me. People watch what turns them on.
12/13/2012
SelectZen SelectZen
I am with the majority in that I don't really mind one way or the other.
12/15/2012
gwenevieve gwenevieve
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It's great that they are starting to use more people who aren't cookie-cutter porn actors, but fetishizing is harmful to a lot of people and it's very dangerous.

I don't know why they can't just use them without making it a big fetish thing, is all.
12/16/2012
falalena falalena
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you like what you like, but i dont like it.
12/22/2012
wildshores wildshores
i really do hate it, as it's a reflection and perpetuation of racism, misogyny, and homophobia, which are so so so violent.
12/22/2012
Martiniman Martiniman
It is what it is...I don't think much about it. Mostly I think about it as categories that help you find what you like, not fetishizing.
01/07/2013
Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
If it's not child-porn or bestiality I'm OK with it.
01/08/2013
xcapricax xcapricax
I find the straight white skinny types very boring.
01/08/2013
kkybf kkybf
i don't mind it
01/27/2013
FLIPxMODE FLIPxMODE
dont mind it
01/27/2013
Inkkythesquid Inkkythesquid
i don't mind it. whatever people are into is what they're into. who am i to judge?
01/27/2013
J5ive J5ive
I don't mind it
01/27/2013
SecretKinksters SecretKinksters
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Originally posted by js250
There are types for every person, why watch porn you don't like to get to the parts you do like? I don't find a problem with this, it helps to narrow down all the movies, areas you visit so you can watch what you are interested in.
Agreed. When we watch porn sometimes we want to see a particular "type" of porn, it's the easiest way to find what you are looking for.
01/28/2013
Genderfree Genderfree
I don't know; I never watched porn for leisure for that reason! I want to get into it... but I don't like the way that people get fetishized...
02/05/2013
karenm karenm
I think it's irritating. But I don't really know of any way around it because when people are interested in a particular fetishized group, that is what they will search for. So that is why porn sites are broken up this way, even if it is overly simplistic.

The real problem is if porn influences people's views and expectations of that group in the real world.
02/23/2013
UrNaughtyaAngel UrNaughtyaAngel
I never really thought about it before. I guess I don't really mind.
05/26/2013
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Nazaress Nazaress
Obviously, only post here if you're comfortable with people knowing your opinions. What upsets you about fetishizing these individuals? Or if you like it, why do you like the fetishization of these individuals?
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Hallmar82 Hallmar82
I don't like or dislike it since I don't really watch porn anyway. However, I think the companies subdivide the actors/actresses as a way to offer specific products to their consumers. It's like all of the different kinds of subgenres of movies, music, videogames, etc. For people who want only a specific subgenre, then it's easy for them to find it and (most importantly for the company) buy it.
03/16/2012
xilliannax xilliannax
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Obviously, only post here if you're comfortable with people knowing your opinions. What upsets you about fetishizing these individuals? Or if you like it, why do you like the fetishization of these individuals?
I really dont like the fetishization of the morbidly obese. 1. Its disgusting 2. Its not healthy for the person. Some of these BBW are REFUSING to lose weight because them being 100lbs over weight is their living, thats not right.
04/12/2012
falalena falalena
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Originally posted by Nazaress
Obviously, only post here if you're comfortable with people knowing your opinions. What upsets you about fetishizing these individuals? Or if you like it, why do you like the fetishization of these individuals?
i dont like bbw fetishes, because it is unhealthy for the individual. i also dont like how some people have a pregnant lady fetish. nothing wrong with having sex while pregnant, but if thats all your in to, then your lady will basically get turned into breeding stock or youre having sex with someone who is carrying another persons baby which seems wrong.
12/22/2012
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