Ball gags and safety

Kestrel Kestrel
I'm considering using a ball gag in my play. I always use a safe word, but was wondering how you factor in safety when using a ball gag. Obviously the sub cannot speak once gagged, and if the sub's arms are bound or otherwise restrained, she/he cannot tap or hand signal.

Any suggestions on an effective 'safe word' method when using ball gags and restraints simultaneously?
12/08/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kestrel
I'm considering using a ball gag in my play. I always use a safe word, but was wondering how you factor in safety when using a ball gag. Obviously the sub cannot speak once gagged, and if the sub's arms are bound or otherwise restrained, ... More
I'd refrain from using restraints and a ball gag with someone who did not know me well enough to know when I needed to stop, but that's my personal rule.

That said, keeping the hand mobile (restrain the wrist while allowing finger movement) would allow you to open and close the fist repeatedly as a signal you needed to stop. In this case it would be important to restrain the hands where your partner can see them at all times (above the head or extended out from the body instead of close to the body in front or back).
12/08/2010
ToyGeek ToyGeek
Some people recommend holding onto an object that can be dropped as a signal. It needs to be heavy enough that it'll be heard and seen when it falls, though.
12/08/2010
J's Alley J's Alley
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Originally posted by ToyGeek
Some people recommend holding onto an object that can be dropped as a signal. It needs to be heavy enough that it'll be heard and seen when it falls, though.
This is a good one. But, I must say that I am kind of with Laurel. I wouldn't use both unless the person knew me well enough to know immediately when to stop.
12/08/2010
Kestrel Kestrel
Laurel, I like the open/close fist signal, thanks.
12/09/2010
Kayla Kayla
I never recommend a safe word that doesn't have an aural aspect to it. It's so easy to get caught up in a scene that I know I wouldn't be looking at someone's hands. For that reason, I'd much more highly recommend giving your submissive some car keys. They always jingle. If she wants out, she can jingle them. The sound of car keys is so out of place that it will make you stop what you're doing.

As always, keep other ball gag safety in mind. Don't gag someone with a cold or who is having issues breathing. Don't use metal (or honestly, plastic) gag since they can chip teeth. Preferably use rubber or silicone or something soft. Make sure to not keep the gag in too long since it can cause issues with the jaw - a bit of pain is normal after awhile, but when it starts getting more than "a bit", it's time to stop. For most newbies to gags, this is around 20 minutes at the most. Also, if you have a ball gag in mind and the person you're playing with is new to gags, I'd recommend you keep the "ball" under 1.5 inches in width. A lot of cheaper gags are made at 2 inches in width, but most people can't get that much in their mouth, and that'd be disappointing to your play. If you don't already have a gag, I recommend the Silicone Ball Gag or the Tantus Beginner Ball Gag here on EF.

Happy gagging.
12/09/2010
J's Alley J's Alley
I am going to second Mistress Kay on the Tantus Beginner Ball Gag...it is amazing. Also, never...ever...leave someone unattended with a gag in their mouth. Or, well, restrained at all for that matter.
12/09/2010
Kestrel Kestrel
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Originally posted by Kayla
I never recommend a safe word that doesn't have an aural aspect to it. It's so easy to get caught up in a scene that I know I wouldn't be looking at someone's hands. For that reason, I'd much more highly recommend giving your ... More
Keys - great idea!

I was considering getting the Aslan silicone ball gag (link), which is 1.75" in diameter. Sounds like that might be too much for beginners.
12/09/2010
Kayla Kayla
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Originally posted by Kestrel
Keys - great idea!

I was considering getting the Aslan silicone ball gag (link), which is 1.75" in diameter. Sounds like that might be too much for beginners.
We use that Aslan Silicone Gag, and I'm pretty sure it's 1.5 in diameter. I think EF might have the measurements wrong. Either way, it's squishy, and my then-beginner boyfriend could easily wear it.
12/11/2010
Kestrel Kestrel
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Originally posted by Kayla
We use that Aslan Silicone Gag, and I'm pretty sure it's 1.5 in diameter. I think EF might have the measurements wrong. Either way, it's squishy, and my then-beginner boyfriend could easily wear it.
Great, thanks. That bit of info is what I needed to move the Aslan gag from my wishlist to my cart!
12/11/2010
Kayla Kayla
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Originally posted by Kestrel
Great, thanks. That bit of info is what I needed to move the Aslan gag from my wishlist to my cart!
Another good choice is the Tantus Beginner Ball Gag. We just tried that one, and it was very comfortable as well. It's more comfortable than the Aslan gag which might not give the "mental" effect you're going for, but it does gag well.
12/18/2010
LavenderSkies LavenderSkies
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Originally posted by ToyGeek
Some people recommend holding onto an object that can be dropped as a signal. It needs to be heavy enough that it'll be heard and seen when it falls, though.
Fantastic idea
12/18/2010
Glinteye Glinteye
So glad i found this, Ive been wondering similar things
10/18/2012
Nyx (Under the Covers) Nyx (Under the Covers)
You know those squeaky dog toys? There are ones that pretty much just look like balls, or something similar, that can be held in one hand and squeezed as a stop signal. Make sure it doesn't require too much hand strength, but this could be an auditory alternative to dropping a heavy object or jingling keys.
11/07/2012
Gdom Gdom
Use either safe-actions--dropping an object to indicate that you need to slow down or stop--or safe-sounds (that aren't words and don't need to be enunciated; three sounds repeated--"MMM MMM MMM"--is a pretty popular choice for this).
11/07/2012
subbieforHer subbieforHer
Mistress gags me pretty often (usually with a ball-gag) for minor punishment and while I'm performing domestic duties around the house. We've agreed upon the successive snapping of fingers twice or more means "something's wrong, please pause" I've had to use this safe "word" while gagged only once, but Mistress was able to immediately realize that something could be going awry.
12/12/2012
higs higs
Something repeated is always the best way to inform someone in our opinion. Its not as hard to come up with a simple safety practice as people seem to think. All you have to do is pick something that you absolutely wouldn't normally hear during play, and make that the safety sign
12/12/2012
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