Have you ever, in fact, played out a rape scenario, in private, as either the rapist or the victim? Assume both parties have consented of course. You can select only one. Private voting.
I can see where you guys are coming from, but I still call it "play rape" because that's what you're pretending to do(the key word being "pretending".) Obviously rape isn't enjoyable, but a very extreme game of "playing hard to get" is.
My boyfriend and I have done this a few times, me acting as the "victim."
My boyfriend and I have done this a few times, me acting as the "victim."
12/18/2010
I KNOW I couldn't function as the rapist. I can't stand the sight of people who are in pain or are afraid. Even simulated it would bother me. As the victim, it would be far too close to real events for me for it to be enjoyable...in fact, it would probably trigger a lot of things I would rather not deal with.
01/13/2011
I've participated in what I call 'rape play', as the 'victim'.
It didn't resemble a real rape in any way. There was no trauma. It was an exciting sexual experience for me and one that I look forward to participating in again, many times over.
With that being said, don't compare 'rape play' to the act of sexual assault. I can't imagine what it's like to really be raped. My heart goes out to those who have been.
That type of play can often be a trigger for those who have been assaulted on different levels and is not for everyone.
Last but not least, flagging those who are speaking out about their opinions isn't appropriate either.
Delicate topic, but to each their own.
It didn't resemble a real rape in any way. There was no trauma. It was an exciting sexual experience for me and one that I look forward to participating in again, many times over.
With that being said, don't compare 'rape play' to the act of sexual assault. I can't imagine what it's like to really be raped. My heart goes out to those who have been.
That type of play can often be a trigger for those who have been assaulted on different levels and is not for everyone.
Last but not least, flagging those who are speaking out about their opinions isn't appropriate either.
Delicate topic, but to each their own.
03/12/2011
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Well, this isn't just any discussion. It's a very very edgpy one. And I can see how it offended her. Actually, I completely agree with her and those who think that this should not even be a discussion. However, there is the matter of free speech (well, in some areas it exists on EF, but not others. Don't see how this is something that even exists on the forums)
Originally posted by
sasweetheart89
I was kind of taken aback by this comment. I understand that rape is a very sensitive subject to many, many people (including myself, as I am a victim of rape), but as Sir said "It is not meant to upset those who have been taken advantage of, it's
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I was kind of taken aback by this comment. I understand that rape is a very sensitive subject to many, many people (including myself, as I am a victim of rape), but as Sir said "It is not meant to upset those who have been taken advantage of, it's simply a kink that some people have." I, personally find it slightly abrasive for you to say that it makes you sick, because this could easily make someone who has interest in this fantasy very uncomfortable and ashamed for liking it. If I were to comment on a discussion about something that you particularly liked and said it makes me sick and I didn't know why it would even be a discussion, I would imagine it would make you feel badly. I know that you have the right to express how you feel about the subject, but I just felt it could be especially hurtful to others...
03/13/2011
I'm a bit against the idea. A friend of mine, several years ago, was raped, and if it was torture for me seeing her get through the aftermath, then I'd dread to think what it was like for her. So, with that, I'm a little put off by it.
However, if I'm with a girl I really love, and she absolutely wants to try it? Then I might agree.
However, if I'm with a girl I really love, and she absolutely wants to try it? Then I might agree.
03/30/2011
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The people who engage in this kind of play want to "take that chance" because it isn't a chance in the way you seem to be implying. These kinds of scenes are very often planned out in advance in extreme detail and both partners have laid out plainly what their limits are. There are safewords for a reason. If one person changes their mind, they can safeword out. I'm not sure if you're implying that people who engage in this kind of fantasy are more inclined to actually rape and disregard their partner's safeword, but generally speaking I don't think this is any more risky than any kind of bdsm play.
Originally posted by
Xavier7
It means that it almost qualifies as rape. If not careful, it could become rape. Not a lot of people want to take that chance.
04/01/2011
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That's up to you, but I wouldn't trust it.
Originally posted by
toxie m
The people who engage in this kind of play want to "take that chance" because it isn't a chance in the way you seem to be implying. These kinds of scenes are very often planned out in advance in extreme detail and both partners have laid out plainly
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The people who engage in this kind of play want to "take that chance" because it isn't a chance in the way you seem to be implying. These kinds of scenes are very often planned out in advance in extreme detail and both partners have laid out plainly what their limits are. There are safewords for a reason. If one person changes their mind, they can safeword out. I'm not sure if you're implying that people who engage in this kind of fantasy are more inclined to actually rape and disregard their partner's safeword, but generally speaking I don't think this is any more risky than any kind of bdsm play.
04/05/2011
If my insomnia is acting up, I pretend to be tied up, drugged and molest myself in the guise of being raped. I started it when I was a teen for some reason, in the shower, like I was a prisoner and was captive and forced to shower while "they" watched. Who knows why it started, but it comes back every now and then
04/10/2011
If people are upset by this thread, there are a few things to do.
1) Avoid the thread, especially if you think it may trigger an unpleasant response.
2) Read the ENTIRE thread, as the difference between what is known as "Ravishment Play" (which is very very common in the BDSM D/s, M/s Communities) and actual forcible rape are two completely different things. "Ravishment Play" is first of all CONSENSUAL. Both partners agree to the play, there is no real "force" involved and it is a very common fantasy, not to mention role play item in many couple's sexual arsenals.
3) Learn more about "Consensual Force" and Ravishment Play. Books like The Complete Bottoming Book, and others give some information on why some enjoy this type of play.
Also, for some it is a form of healing. To be In Control, while pretending to not be in control.
1) Avoid the thread, especially if you think it may trigger an unpleasant response.
2) Read the ENTIRE thread, as the difference between what is known as "Ravishment Play" (which is very very common in the BDSM D/s, M/s Communities) and actual forcible rape are two completely different things. "Ravishment Play" is first of all CONSENSUAL. Both partners agree to the play, there is no real "force" involved and it is a very common fantasy, not to mention role play item in many couple's sexual arsenals.
3) Learn more about "Consensual Force" and Ravishment Play. Books like The Complete Bottoming Book, and others give some information on why some enjoy this type of play.
Also, for some it is a form of healing. To be In Control, while pretending to not be in control.
04/12/2011
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I agree 100% with you.
Originally posted by
P'Gell
If people are upset by this thread, there are a few things to do.
1) Avoid the thread, especially if you think it may trigger an unpleasant response.
2) Read the ENTIRE thread, as the difference between what is known as ...
1) Avoid the thread, especially if you think it may trigger an unpleasant response.
2) Read the ENTIRE thread, as the difference between what is known as ...
If people are upset by this thread, there are a few things to do.
1) Avoid the thread, especially if you think it may trigger an unpleasant response.
2) Read the ENTIRE thread, as the difference between what is known as "Ravishment Play" (which is very very common in the BDSM D/s, M/s Communities) and actual forcible rape are two completely different things. "Ravishment Play" is first of all CONSENSUAL. Both partners agree to the play, there is no real "force" involved and it is a very common fantasy, not to mention role play item in many couple's sexual arsenals.
3) Learn more about "Consensual Force" and Ravishment Play. Books like The Complete Bottoming Book, and others give some information on why some enjoy this type of play.
Also, for some it is a form of healing. To be In Control, while pretending to not be in control.
1) Avoid the thread, especially if you think it may trigger an unpleasant response.
2) Read the ENTIRE thread, as the difference between what is known as "Ravishment Play" (which is very very common in the BDSM D/s, M/s Communities) and actual forcible rape are two completely different things. "Ravishment Play" is first of all CONSENSUAL. Both partners agree to the play, there is no real "force" involved and it is a very common fantasy, not to mention role play item in many couple's sexual arsenals.
3) Learn more about "Consensual Force" and Ravishment Play. Books like The Complete Bottoming Book, and others give some information on why some enjoy this type of play.
Also, for some it is a form of healing. To be In Control, while pretending to not be in control.
If you have strong triggers, avoid the thread. WHY would you come into a thread with rape in the title if you are:
1) Going to be offended?
2) Aren't interested in learning something?
Until I took back my power from my rapist, this stuff bothered me. Now? I find great satisfaction in Ravishment Play. I don't feel helpless or out of control. I feel Dominated and desired. My Mr also enjoys being ravaged.
04/12/2011
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Yes! This exactly. Thank you.
Originally posted by
P'Gell
If people are upset by this thread, there are a few things to do.
1) Avoid the thread, especially if you think it may trigger an unpleasant response.
2) Read the ENTIRE thread, as the difference between what is known as ...
1) Avoid the thread, especially if you think it may trigger an unpleasant response.
2) Read the ENTIRE thread, as the difference between what is known as ...
If people are upset by this thread, there are a few things to do.
1) Avoid the thread, especially if you think it may trigger an unpleasant response.
2) Read the ENTIRE thread, as the difference between what is known as "Ravishment Play" (which is very very common in the BDSM D/s, M/s Communities) and actual forcible rape are two completely different things. "Ravishment Play" is first of all CONSENSUAL. Both partners agree to the play, there is no real "force" involved and it is a very common fantasy, not to mention role play item in many couple's sexual arsenals.
3) Learn more about "Consensual Force" and Ravishment Play. Books like The Complete Bottoming Book, and others give some information on why some enjoy this type of play.
Also, for some it is a form of healing. To be In Control, while pretending to not be in control.
1) Avoid the thread, especially if you think it may trigger an unpleasant response.
2) Read the ENTIRE thread, as the difference between what is known as "Ravishment Play" (which is very very common in the BDSM D/s, M/s Communities) and actual forcible rape are two completely different things. "Ravishment Play" is first of all CONSENSUAL. Both partners agree to the play, there is no real "force" involved and it is a very common fantasy, not to mention role play item in many couple's sexual arsenals.
3) Learn more about "Consensual Force" and Ravishment Play. Books like The Complete Bottoming Book, and others give some information on why some enjoy this type of play.
Also, for some it is a form of healing. To be In Control, while pretending to not be in control.
04/14/2011
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Taking your Power disables the power of the assailant. Good for you, BBW! It's the most healthy thing to do! I've done the same thing. He doesn't get a place in my mind nor my sex life. I decide what works. I agree that by continuing to be "offended" (and I think we choose more of the things we are offended by than we care to admit) only continues the Victim Thought Processes, and gives the assailant power he shouldn't have.
Originally posted by
BBW Talks Toys
I agree 100% with you.
If you have strong triggers, avoid the thread. WHY would you come into a thread with rape in the title if you are:
1) Going to be offended?
2) Aren't interested in learning ...
If you have strong triggers, avoid the thread. WHY would you come into a thread with rape in the title if you are:
1) Going to be offended?
2) Aren't interested in learning ...
I agree 100% with you.
If you have strong triggers, avoid the thread. WHY would you come into a thread with rape in the title if you are:
1) Going to be offended?
2) Aren't interested in learning something?
Until I took back my power from my rapist, this stuff bothered me. Now? I find great satisfaction in Ravishment Play. I don't feel helpless or out of control. I feel Dominated and desired. My Mr also enjoys being ravaged.
If you have strong triggers, avoid the thread. WHY would you come into a thread with rape in the title if you are:
1) Going to be offended?
2) Aren't interested in learning something?
Until I took back my power from my rapist, this stuff bothered me. Now? I find great satisfaction in Ravishment Play. I don't feel helpless or out of control. I feel Dominated and desired. My Mr also enjoys being ravaged.
The Power is ours for the taking, if we choose to be brave and choose to shed the "victim" title.
05/03/2011
Sometimes a fantasy is just that, a fantasy that I have in my mind that I do not necessarily want to act on with my partner. I love the ravishment play idea that is being discussed here but regardless, I think there are times when a fantasy is best left in the imagination to be enjoyed at will by that person. That is my feeling on this style of fantasy. I appreciate that everyone is different though and that if others want to take it to that next level, that is their choice.
05/03/2011
Ravishment is a much better term, I have very very negative feelings towards "rape play", no matter how consensual because of the implications of that word. If i would have been introduced to the concept as ravishment I would be much more open to it. But as it stands, the act/fantasy is as much of a hard limit as scat is for me.
08/28/2011
I actually had a sleep rape fantasy I filled on the first girl I fell in love with.
One day she texted me telling me to come over. When I got there I found a note taped to her bedroom door:
"I am not attempting suicide. I wanted you to get your birthday present (I ask for kinky sex every birthday) early."
So I walked into her room and she was completely naked, curled into a ball on top of her bed covers, with our favorite props at the foot of the bed.
you need to trust someone basically with your life for stuff like that.
It was quite an interesting hour before her sleep meds became no match for my penis.
One day she texted me telling me to come over. When I got there I found a note taped to her bedroom door:
"I am not attempting suicide. I wanted you to get your birthday present (I ask for kinky sex every birthday) early."
So I walked into her room and she was completely naked, curled into a ball on top of her bed covers, with our favorite props at the foot of the bed.
you need to trust someone basically with your life for stuff like that.
It was quite an interesting hour before her sleep meds became no match for my penis.
08/30/2011
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This isn't true. There are people who are turned on by the fear of being raped, or who may very much not want it during the act, but later find themselves aroused that it happened, etc.
Originally posted by
P'Gell
"Ravishment Play" is a much better term. NO person wants any type of sex without consent (even those of us who engage in force-play and Ravishment Play) but actually Ravishment Play and fantasies about "forced sex" are one of the most common female
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"Ravishment Play" is a much better term. NO person wants any type of sex without consent (even those of us who engage in force-play and Ravishment Play) but actually Ravishment Play and fantasies about "forced sex" are one of the most common female fantasies. My guess it that our society with repression and feelings of guilt about sex sets up an environment where a lot of people feel if they have "no control" of the situation, they are free to enjoy it.
All of this play is FAR from actual rape, which is not about sex, but is about power, non consensual humiliation and harm to the victim.
All of this play is FAR from actual rape, which is not about sex, but is about power, non consensual humiliation and harm to the victim.
It isn't as uncommon as some people think.
08/30/2011