Safer/better: Spreader bars or rope?

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Safer/better: Spreader bars or rope?

TheToyGuy TheToyGuy
I'm trying something new and I am not too sure the method.

Imagine a person held sideways on a wall, more for discipline and oral play.

Would it be better to use spreader bars on hands and feet or tie each limb off with rope?



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09/16/2015
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TheToyGuy TheToyGuy
I had hoped someone would have had some input for this by now.
09/24/2015
Mr. E Mr. E
How would you support their body weight?
It would not be safe to have all of ones body weight supported by a couple wrist/ankle restraints.
09/24/2015
TheToyGuy TheToyGuy
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr. E
How would you support their body weight?
It would not be safe to have all of ones body weight supported by a couple wrist/ankle restraints.
I see your point and noted that aspect with gravity. Bowing in the middle would be expected with my method illustrated. Blood pooling would be a danger too.

Why oh why is it so easy to suspend upright or dangle from the ceiling face up/down. Why is sideways so frustratingly
hard.

Other options could be to tether each arm/leg, elbow/knee, chest/waist to the wall. Sort of like nailing them up. Or I could put a a table or support underneath the waist to lessen the weigh.

That said the head is free to drop (neck pain), spin twists (back pain), pressure from the support of ribs (pressure issue).

Thoughts?



Suspend2
09/25/2015
TheToyGuy TheToyGuy
I suppose I could go the more traditional method and suspend with rope on a frame with legs/hands bound back or at side.

But I really want to use a wall.



Suspend3
09/28/2015
TheToyGuy TheToyGuy
Still not sure. Almost ripped an arm off yesterday and it was not my arm to rip off. Still need advice here.
10/05/2015
TheToyGuy TheToyGuy
Nope, nope and nope. Still need help or more advice.
10/13/2015
TheToyGuy TheToyGuy
Hello? Any BDSM people? Oh pretty please.
10/24/2015
Inquisitor Inquisitor
I'm not exactly a "BDSM" person, but, I'm not sure sideways on a wall will work. Gravity around the center of the body and the farthest points, i.e. the arm and leg farthest away from the ground, will be your greatest challenge. If you can find a way to comfortably stabilize those points, you might find success.
10/24/2015
TheToyGuy TheToyGuy
Quote:
Originally posted by Inquisitor
I'm not exactly a "BDSM" person, but, I'm not sure sideways on a wall will work. Gravity around the center of the body and the farthest points, i.e. the arm and leg farthest away from the ground, will be your greatest challenge. If ...
Yeah, so damn frustrating. I mean it's kinda pissing me off a bit. It is so simple to use a frame in the middle of the room.

If I can solve the slump without over binding the body I can make do but I just cannot configure a safe method overall.
10/25/2015
Inquisitor Inquisitor
Quote:
Originally posted by TheToyGuy
Yeah, so damn frustrating. I mean it's kinda pissing me off a bit. It is so simple to use a frame in the middle of the room.

If I can solve the slump without over binding the body I can make do but I just cannot configure a safe method overall.
I'm just thinking out loud on this, but if you are hell bent on doing this, you will need to solve the issue of supporting the side of the body that is farthest away from the floor somehow. I'm not sure if it means a tighter restraint structure on the opposite side of the body for the limbs and additional support for the middle of the body or something else. You also can't forget to support the head.

I'm not sure how long your session is intended to last but the longer the "victim" is restrained in this position, the less "comfortable" it will be for them.
10/25/2015
TheToyGuy TheToyGuy
Quote:
Originally posted by Inquisitor
I'm just thinking out loud on this, but if you are hell bent on doing this, you will need to solve the issue of supporting the side of the body that is farthest away from the floor somehow. I'm not sure if it means a tighter restraint ...
I like solving problems like this.

It's like trying to solve pressure area care issues for surgery.

But in regards to supporting the opposite side of the body, that would more than likely be supported by the restraint on the adjacent side too.
10/26/2015
Sir Sir
I've been doing suspension for a number of years now, and what you are expressing is not something to do unless you know how to do it, and preferably with spotters present in case something goes awry.

What are you going for? Are you wanting them horizontally against a wall? If that is the case, having all of the weight on their wrists or arms is a no-no, even people who have been doing this for 10+ years wouldn't do that. Your kink doesn't bloody matter if you're harming the people you're playing with, and I'm honestly offended by your "there must be a way" approach.

The best method is to have a waist or hip line, and if you don't know what that means, please, for the love of god, don't do this. If you want to discuss suspension techniques then I would be more than happy to discuss them with you, but this is not something to do without, like I said, years of practice and spotters.
10/26/2015
Sir Sir
Also, sideways suspensions aren't "hard" but doing one against a wall is asinine because it doesn't allow the person any movement, which is the only thing that makes a sideways suspension any semblance of comfortable.

Again, please don't do this. I'm afraid for the well-being of the bottom you are attempting to perform this on.
10/26/2015
TheToyGuy TheToyGuy
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Originally posted by Sir
Also, sideways suspensions aren't "hard" but doing one against a wall is asinine because it doesn't allow the person any movement, which is the only thing that makes a sideways suspension any semblance of comfortable.

Again, ...
I have been doing suspension and ropes for a number of years now and this would probably be the most difficult concept I have ever come up with. Compared to using a frame in the middle of the room I have only two points of axis to configure.

That said. As mentioned prior this is more a puzzle at this time. Something to work on.

My Goal: Suspend a person [male/female] laterally, against a fixed wall, safely.
10/27/2015
TheToyGuy TheToyGuy
For those interested in knowing it was this photo that started my craze.

Art

But I think I may have finally worked out a method.

Using Velcro cross straps I latch the body onto a peg board at each joint.

See image:

Idea

Green is Velcro, purple is grip locks and harness set.

Person holds the grips and puts feet into stirrup giving enough time to Velcro pin the waist then limbs. in theory there would be no movement but even weight distribution for body.

I have a shoulder harness kit that would work aces.

Harness

Thoughts?
10/27/2015
Inquisitor Inquisitor
Quote:
Originally posted by TheToyGuy
For those interested in knowing it was this photo that started my craze.



But I think I may have finally worked out a method.

Using Velcro cross straps I latch the body onto a peg board at each joint.

See ...
Is it possible that the photo with the bed is Photoshopped?
10/28/2015
TheToyGuy TheToyGuy
Quote:
Originally posted by Inquisitor
Is it possible that the photo with the bed is Photoshopped?
Um, I think not, it is from a performance art exhibit I believe (not 100% sure).


Art
10/28/2015
Sir Sir
Not photoshopped, but not done by someone who is attempting to use "velcro straps" to suspend someone.

I repeat, if you have never attempted something like this, do not do it. They did it with that sort of tie for a reason. Why not just do it the way they did it? When you start incorporating ankle and wrist ties into anything suspension-wise, you enter a ton of risk that is beyond the regular amount.

Suspension is already risky - things like nerve damage. Add in the extra, and you're talking about dislocating limbs, loss of circulation, blood clotting.

Again, your lack of interest in safety of your bottom disturbs me. Greatly. Have you ever been on Fetlife? That may be more of a place for your questions, and I bet you people will say similar to what I've already said.
10/31/2015
TheToyGuy TheToyGuy
Quote:
Originally posted by Sir
Not photoshopped, but not done by someone who is attempting to use "velcro straps" to suspend someone.

I repeat, if you have never attempted something like this, do not do it. They did it with that sort of tie for a reason. Why not ...
I totally forgot my Fetlife account. Thanks, have posted a new discussion on the board so I can not wait to see what they say.
11/01/2015
TheToyGuy TheToyGuy
Have as yet to get any feedback.
11/07/2015
TheToyGuy TheToyGuy
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Originally posted by TheToyGuy
Have as yet to get any feedback.
No consensus as yet.
11/29/2015
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