#BuildaBetterEden - Community Planning: July 2012 - Everybody welcome!

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#BuildaBetterEden - Community Planning: July 2012 - Everybody welcome!

lilly555 lilly555
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Originally posted by Kindred
I'm concerned that many of the suggestions are tied to rank, in many cases raising the minimum level to qualify. Rank does not necessarily correlate to ability as a reviewer or mentor. As an example, if we raise the mentor requirement to 7.0, ...
I agree, not just because it would cut off good reviewers from becoming mentors but it would reduce the number of available mentors. Many contributors believe that there should be no voting and constantly mention that everyone should go through the mentoring program. If the pool of available mentors is greatly reduced then there could be an influx of students without mentors. This would mean overloading those who are available or leaving more new reviewers to think that they should not go into the review program. That's only if voting was to be gotten rid of. If it stayed and we raised the rank for mentors then it's likely more people would rather go for the vote then compete for an available mentor when there would be very little.
07/04/2012
honeybee57 honeybee57
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Originally posted by T&A1987
I have friends who sell toys through their sites like tupperware, I was wondering if eden could do something similar. Like the affiliate program, but a person who joins can be given a cookie cutter site to use (that's customizable) plus sales ...
I love this idea!
07/05/2012
js250 js250
I would also like to suggest the on the follow-up reviews, there is an "Other" category. Sometimes none of the categories fit what you want to say about the item. That way you can explain what has changed since you wrote the review.
07/05/2012
MarriedinVermont MarriedinVermont
I would LOVE to see more plus sized items AND Shoes!! I think if Eden Fantasys expanded into shoes it would be very beneficial!
07/05/2012
SexyStuff SexyStuff
I think I'd be more likely to try the mentor program again if there was a set course limit- like two or three reviews, you're done. I don't like when it is open ended. If you get a mentor you don't really click with, you're stuck until they release you, which could be 5 reviews later. Too risky, I'd rather just go it alone.
07/05/2012
Princess-Kayla ♥ Princess-Kayla ♥
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Originally posted by Antipova
Just popping my head in to say that I'm liking the direction of discussion so far, and echoing Kindred's thoughts about a) rank not being the sole judge of someone's capability, b) possibly having a feedback system for mentors, if a way ...
This isn't a bad idea, but I almost never use the comments. My students always message me about the reviews, so we almost always talk though that. If the comments became something that would become important like that though, I would use them more.
07/05/2012
Princess-Kayla ♥ Princess-Kayla ♥
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Originally posted by honeybee57
I love this idea!
I was thinking about this, and I think one of the reasons EF doesn't do toy parties is because it's a site for both men, and women. I was a consultant for a sex toy store, and men aren't allowed to do parties, nor are they allowed to attend parties. I don't know about everywhere, but in my area, it's considered prostitution for a woman to have a sex toy party while a man is even in the house because it's "selling sex"

EF has many male contributors, so it would be kind of unfair to them. Unless they did male parties as well.

Another thing may be that EF sells things from all different companies. So maybe the companies are ok with their things being on the site, but don't want anyone doing home parties with them.

Just some ideas.
07/05/2012
Beck Beck
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Originally posted by T&A1987
for the mentor program, what about a qualifier test? it could be multiple choice, like the personality tests retail stores have for applicants, essay,or perhaps a mix. It would test knowledge of toys, materials, cleaning methods, along with writing ...
This made me think of an idea.

What about a match quiz for students and mentors? When the student wants to join the mentor program that are directed to a quiz. It should ask things like what do you want to improve on in the program? What kind of items are you looking to review? A other personality questions and questions about what you plan to do here. When you finish the quiz it could link you to a selection of mentors that meet your needs.

Of course mentors would have to fill out a quizz too, so we can be paired with students. However, the suggested mentors are just suggested. So, they can still request who they wish.
07/05/2012
Kindred Kindred
Quote:
Originally posted by Beck
This made me think of an idea.

What about a match quiz for students and mentors? When the student wants to join the mentor program that are directed to a quiz. It should ask things like what do you want to improve on in the program? What kind ...
I had previously suggested something that was much simpler. Basically a sorting process so that potential students could sort out mentors that met their needs.
07/05/2012
Kindred Kindred
It's not a necessity, but how about a timeline of official changes to the website and programs. It would be helpful for anyone that has been away for any significant time in terms of catching up.
07/06/2012
ReadmyLips ReadmyLips
I'd like to make a suggestion for the site to carry some sexy swim suits like a cute sexy swim line!
07/07/2012
T&A1987 T&A1987
for big changes there are two ideas that might be fun. One is to create a kind of status update that appears on walls like on facebook. Another is to host games on eden. to keep it close knit, it'd only be between community members and most games would be two person or more. Just simple games like chess, checkers, cribbage and possibly board games like monopoly.
07/07/2012
Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
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Originally posted by Ansley
There are many suggestions from last month and some of those are going to be implemented.

This month, if we could focus on suggestions for the mentor program, that would be fantastic.

- What's good, what's not?
- What do ...
If this has already been said, I apologize, but I was editing reviews earlier (some as a proofreader and some as a mentor) and it occurred to me that a lot of the issues with the Mentor program could be addressed by getting rid of the "gift card" and just rewarding Mentor's for each review edited.

It's not as big a reward, but at least then the mentor is rewarded for the reviews he or she edited regardless of the outcome of the class, and regardless if someone is advanced or not. It might also encourage some mentors to work a little longer with students before "graduating" them.

As for an easy way to judge who's appropriate to be a mentor — you've got me.

I see way too many people vote "EU/excellent" on reviews riddled with bad grammar and errors, but then only "U/Good" on other reviews seemingly because they don't have pictures or they're short (i.e. they don't give "the chemical breakdown for things like water and air" ) to consider rank as an accurate indicator of… well, anything.
07/08/2012
Kindred Kindred
Quote:
Originally posted by Petite Valentine
If this has already been said, I apologize, but I was editing reviews earlier (some as a proofreader and some as a mentor) and it occurred to me that a lot of the issues with the Mentor program could be addressed by getting rid of the "gift ...
The system would have to be set up to only reward points for reviewers who are not already advanced and have a rank of 5.5 or lower because currently the $25 GC is only for graduating/failing non-advanced students and editing points would not be awarded because above 5.5 you auto-publish. I think it's doable, just would require programming changes.
07/08/2012
Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
Quote:
Originally posted by Kindred
The system would have to be set up to only reward points for reviewers who are not already advanced and have a rank of 5.5 or lower because currently the $25 GC is only for graduating/failing non-advanced students and editing points would not be ...
My guess is that it would be easier to award points per review edited since that mechanism is already in place, than to change the programming so that students can't submit upgrade requests when enrolled or cancel classes without warning. It would be great if it was as simple as programming a checkbox for "student" somewhere on the back-end of profiles, that determined behavior based on whether it was at 0 or 1 (i.e. on or off), but I doubt it. Most of the site behavior looks to be determined by rank, and I've already said my piece about that.

As for auto-publishing… based on what I've seen, it should be by permission, like the Descriptive Review Program.
07/08/2012
Antipova Antipova
Quote:
Originally posted by Beck
This made me think of an idea.

What about a match quiz for students and mentors? When the student wants to join the mentor program that are directed to a quiz. It should ask things like what do you want to improve on in the program? What kind ...
If this is implemented, definitely "how quickly do you expect/demand a response" should be included! And also make it possible for mentors to update their answers, because there are times where I'm online for hours daily, and there are other times when I'm lucky to be online two hours a week.
07/08/2012
Librarian Librarian
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Originally posted by Kindred
I made a few suggestions last month so I won't repeat them, but overall the program needs to have more information available regarding the program for both students and mentors alike. For example, the function of a mentor (versus an ...
I second Kindred's suggestion on the mentor thing.

Also if there was a more comprehensive page on what a mentor does and the basics on turning in reviews, etc....that'd be great. For example, I didn't know I just submitted a review and it would go to the mentor until I asked!
07/08/2012
ReadmyLips ReadmyLips
Im not sure if anyone talked about this yet but I have another suggestion about the promotions (example: free stockings) with the purchase of certain items.... I like that it gives an option of stockings to choose from when you purchase an item but it doesnt say anywhere how to add the free stockings to the order because if you dont do it the right way you won't get the stockings....

I placed my first order with the website for panties specifically because they came with the stockings but never knew that you had to figure out how to add them to the order I assumed you just got stockings when you ordered it....My idea is that its great to have an option to choose between a couple choices of stockings but if a person orders an item that says it comes with a pair and they didnt add it to the cart there should be a default stocking they automatically just throw in the order for the customer. I am upset now no stockings and they wouldn't even add them to my new order I just placed as a kind gesture since I didnt know I did it wrong the first time around.
07/11/2012
Ansley Ansley
Gosh, sorry everyone! I kept meaning to respond to all of the posts, I haven't forgotten about you.

@Antipova - You can edit your information here: "link". It's in the Mentor program dashboard.

Ok so basically what I'm taking away from all of this is that rank should not be a deciding factor and that we need to outline the mentor responsibilities and provide better resources for both mentors and students? Correct? And possibly a matching system...my only issue with the matching system is that people might feel like some mentors are getting more of the requests than others. Just due to the way it would be set up, this might cause people to say they are skilled in things they aren't. So what do you have in the way of suggestions for that?

I do know we have some programming changes coming down the pipe, it's just a matter of time.
07/11/2012
Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
Gosh, sorry everyone! I kept meaning to respond to all of the posts, I haven't forgotten about you.

@Antipova - You can edit your information here: "link". It's in the Mentor program dashboard.

Ok so basically what ...
"rank should not be a deciding factor"

You know I agree.

"And possibly a matching system..."

As long as that's not the only way to get a mentor, I have no objection. It could be very helpful, but I chose my mentor based on her profile and after reading her reviews, and I'd hate to think that had I just been presented with a form with checkboxes, I might never have had the chance to work with her.
07/13/2012
Kindred Kindred
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
Gosh, sorry everyone! I kept meaning to respond to all of the posts, I haven't forgotten about you.

@Antipova - You can edit your information here: "link". It's in the Mentor program dashboard.

Ok so basically what ...
Personally, I am of the belief that a mentor can help a student write a review for a product even if they have little to no experience with that product type, so I would suggest that product type not even be a consideration. I was more thinking along the lines of a profile (such as gender, age, sexual orientation, etc.) and expectation match. The match should only generate a list that narrows the choices down. A student should still have to read the personal statement to select a mentor.

Alternatively, product type classifications could be based on the mentor's own reviews and generated automatically. So for example, if I reviewed a vibrating P-spot toy, the system would automatically qualify me as a mentor for vibrating toys, anal toys, and P-spot toys, but not G-spot toys. It's certainly not perfect and I'm not sure about the programming, but it would at least require a mentor to review a product in a particular category before being an "expert" in that category. Also, mentors could always remove a category they did not feel comfortable mentoring but could not add to the list without reviewing a product in that category first.
07/13/2012
Kindred Kindred
There appears to be at least a few mentors that are no longer active but still appear on the available mentor list. Would it be possible to institute an automated system in which mentors would be notified every few months and have to actively confirm that they are still mentoring, otherwise the "don't accept new students" is automatically turned on?
07/13/2012
Kindred Kindred
This would take a lot of work, but could we get an overhaul of the product categories and have them more consistent with the "Refine by" feature and with review categories? Some examples:

-All clothing is currently listed under "Sexy Lingerie." However, this includes men's clothing/underwear and costumes. How about if the Overall heading was instead "Clothing and Costumes" and then break it into the current sub-categories?

-The Vixskin Spur dildo is classified as a prostate massager.

-Reviews for the Tantus Acute dildo are listed under Dildo Harnesses > Attachments and accessories.

-Men's underwear as products are listed under Sexy Lingerie, but the reviews are under "For Men > Raunchy Underwear" (And I find the term raunchy inaccurate and a little offensive)

These are just a few examples of some of the strange groupings I've encountered and really feel like that whole system just needs someone to look it over and update it. Products and reviews are not always located intuitively.
07/15/2012
mikebooks mikebooks
Here are several suggestions that I think might be useful to implement:

Affiliate reports - export to xls:
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Estimated "back in stock" date:
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Quantity in stock:
link
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Backordering (not sure about this one since -unlike my other three suggestions- it might be a little tricky):
link
07/15/2012
Loriandhubby Loriandhubby
I think a helpful addtion to our dashboard would be if an alert poped up next to the mentor program when we have a new review or comment. something similar to the new message alert.
07/17/2012
Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by mikebooks
Here are several suggestions that I think might be useful to implement:

Affiliate reports - export to xls:
link

Estimated "back in stock" date:
link
link

Quantity in stock:
link
link

Backordering ...
The option to back order is, realistically, probably not something that's going to happen. The production of toys is not quite as stable as say the production of paper napkins. Back in stock dates also fall under this umbrella. Setting alerts or emailing customer service (support ticket) to inquire is the way to go.

Affiliate reports -> XLS is a possibility.
07/17/2012
Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by Kindred
This would take a lot of work, but could we get an overhaul of the product categories and have them more consistent with the "Refine by" feature and with review categories? Some examples:

-All clothing is currently listed under ...
I'll add this to the list. Some of the categories are a little fuzzy.
07/17/2012
Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by Kindred
There appears to be at least a few mentors that are no longer active but still appear on the available mentor list. Would it be possible to institute an automated system in which mentors would be notified every few months and have to actively ...
I'm not sure how that would play out on the programming side of the coin. But, I can ask.
07/17/2012
Beck Beck
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Originally posted by Loriandhubby
I think a helpful addtion to our dashboard would be if an alert poped up next to the mentor program when we have a new review or comment. something similar to the new message alert.
I totally agree with this. I really would like to have something pop up next to the mentor program on my dashboard. Sometimes the alerts don't come in and it would be nice to have the notification indicator. It doesn't matter what it is the pops up just something to let me know to check my mentor program dashboard because I have something new in there.
07/17/2012
Beck Beck
New Idea because of what's below...

Tiffany Rose Message me

I'm sorry it took so long i just got your message ! i had a busy day

June 18, 2012

Accepted (June 18, 2012)
Andrew1992

Andrew1992 Message me

Hi! I have just started writing a few reviews for EF and I'm really interested in getting into a class. I've done a few reviews so far, but I'd like to get better. Do you think you could help me out?

June 18, 2012

Cancelled by system (June 18, 2012)
Taylor

Taylor Message me

Hi, I was wondering if I could join your class? I've been feeling pretty stuck with my reviews lately and thought I could maybe use a tune up in the mentor program. I really admore your reviews a lot and was hoping you could help me out with mine.

June 18, 2012

Cancelled by system (June 18, 2012)

Kitty Leigh

Kitty Leigh Message me

If you still are willing, I'd love for you to mentor me through lingerie.

June 18, 2012

Cancelled by system (June 18, 2012)
Lydiamarie

Lydiamarie Message me

will you mentor me please?

June 18, 2012

Cancelled by system (June 18, 2012)

legna Message me

I am not completely sure of what the mentor and student thing is. I am hoping by requesting to someone that I might be able to find out and understand better. I am new at all of this and don't completely know everything that I am doing or how to do somethings on here.

June 18, 2012

Cancelled by system (June 18, 2012)
LadyDarknezz

LadyDarknezz Message me

Hey there! I've been itching to get back into the Mentor program, and I know you are an awesome reviewer! I think it's a wonderful program and I know that you will guide me to becoming a better reviewer!

June 18, 2012

Cancelled by system (June 18, 2012)
mcgang9

mcgang9 Message me

I am new can u help me with what I need to do? Thank u

June 18, 2012

Cancelled by system



All in the same day I got 8 requests. And this isn't the first time. Usually I get at least 3 of them every time I am available. And I know that others that are on the first page of mentors get the same thing.

How about changing the line up? Seems a bit unfair that higher ranked members get more students because students request those on the first page. I think it should be a rotating list, but you should have the option to refine your search or organize it by rank, alphabetical order, or whatever else there is. The list should change the order like how the order is changed on the community page. That way newer mentors get a fair shot to students as well.
07/18/2012
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