#Eden Lit - Games (12.2012)- What if....

Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Ok so what if you wrote a book that became a best seller. You go on to continue your book with several new books and have a contract for a few more. You are sitting on top of the world and loving every minute of it.
Then one day you notice that a certain person looks kinda familiar to you. To your horror you realize that the protagonist of your novels IS this person. You have been chronicling their life. You approach the person and strike up a conversation; only to realize that what is happening to him/her is what you are currently writing. You know that you have planned a significant hardship...let's say a really terrible one, that you know will make the book SUPER popular. It could make you TONS of cash, but it could totally ruin this person's life.
What do you do?
12/04/2012
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Chilipepper Chilipepper
I've been doing this for years ... it's awful when I run into my characters in real life. This is why I think I'm transcribing rather than writing.

To solve the problem you have posed, the book will need some epic twist plotting so the person and character will come out stronger for it. "It was hell, but worth going through."
12/04/2012
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
This scenario came to me when I was thinking about my rather odd ideas about reality and it's layers...and I was reading a Dean Koontz novel with a similar plot.

Anyhow I dunno WHAT I'd do in this situation. I mean if I KNEW that the person was being hurt by my work then I would have to stop...but what if I'm not causing the events but merely seeing them in advance? Do I have an obligation to warn the person? Is it ethical to continue to make money off this knowledge? Do I owe the person some sort of royalties? Gawd could you imagine if you thought you were creating a fictional person and you actually somehow used his/her real information?
Could I just shake my head and pretend that it's all coincidence?
12/04/2012
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
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Originally posted by Chilipepper
I've been doing this for years ... it's awful when I run into my characters in real life. This is why I think I'm transcribing rather than writing.

To solve the problem you have posed, the book will need some epic twist plotting so ... More
I think this happens because there truly are no "new" or totally unique stories. There are only different outcomes or situations. It makes for compelling reading mainly because the reader can relate to the story on a visceral level.

But what if it went just a step farther?....I do like your idea that maybe if it all worked out for the better in the end it would be ok, though.
12/04/2012
Chilipepper Chilipepper
I can understand the ethical dilemma, of course. Telling them or even speculating with them can likely get you killed by them for "controlling their lives" (even if it is precognition). Of course there is also the possibility of being murdered without even knowing why and only during the trial would the motive be brought out - which will likely inspire somebody to write about it and they end up taking over writing the person's life ...

(I've been reading too much Bruce Jones recently.)
12/04/2012
Ansley Ansley
Interesting... I think art frequently imitates life, while life frequently imitates art. I've had many a dream that come true later on in life so I'm really stumped as to how I would feel about this.

There are only a handful of key physical characteristics and personality traits to choose from, cosmically speaking. Meanwhile environment, life-style choices, and unforeseen accidents can change a person's personality and how they look.

I think the similarities would have to be ridiculously specific and the events would have to fall precisely on the timeline in which I wrote them in order for me to sit up and really take notice enough to make an ethical decision.

There's a little bit of me in all of you and a little bit of all of you in me...so I'd have to brush it off as coincidence at first.
12/04/2012
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
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Originally posted by Ansley
Interesting... I think art frequently imitates life, while life frequently imitates art. I've had many a dream that come true later on in life so I'm really stumped as to how I would feel about this.

There are only a handful of key ... More
See? That's what I thought at first too but my brain was all like,"But what if it went totally beyond coincidence? What if it was EXACT?" My brain is a jerk at times. The thought did kinda chill me at first. I mean what if everything that we write creates a sort of microverse where our visions become reality? What if it is NECESSARY for the continuation of our own Universe that we continually create these other cosmos? Could we wrap our minds around the havok we've created out there with previous literary works and could we continue to write knowing we are literally creating these people and directing the angst in their lives?
Is that the real answer as to why "God" seems so random? Stop me before I kill again!
12/04/2012
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
See? That's what I thought at first too but my brain was all like,"But what if it went totally beyond coincidence? What if it was EXACT?" My brain is a jerk at times. The thought did kinda chill me at first. I mean what if everything ... More
Damn it woman!! I was so content to live life writing without thinking too hard on the butterfly effect but there ya go again just sucking me back into it...

If it weren't for the other 97,000 things I have to do, I'd totally let me mind slip into that abyss. But alas, I'll have to come back to it.
12/04/2012
SneakersAndPearls SneakersAndPearls
Have you ever seen the movie, "Stranger than Fiction"? It has Will Ferrel in a very different role. Kind of dark comedy, if you can call it comedy.

Spoilers Follow...

In the movie it's the literary character that realizes he's in the author's book and seeks her out. The problem comes because she always kills her characters off at the end. The issue becomes, now that she knows he's a real person, does she go ahead and kill him off in the poetic and awesome way she had planned (and which the "character" himself is OK with), or does she make a weaker work of "fiction" because she now knows he's a real person? And then there's the horrible realization that if all of her characters have been real, then she's killed a lot of people. "I wrote a book about the school teacher. I killed her the day before summer vacation. How cruel is that?"

As for me, I'd have to be able to pull them out in the end and it would depend on whether I'm just seeing things before they happen or if I'm causing them. If I'm just seeing them before they happen, I'd keep at it. If I was causing them, ethically, I'd have to stop.
12/04/2012
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
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Originally posted by SneakersAndPearls
Have you ever seen the movie, "Stranger than Fiction"? It has Will Ferrel in a very different role. Kind of dark comedy, if you can call it comedy.

Spoilers Follow...

In the movie it's the literary character that ... More
Oh wow I wonder if I actually heard about that movie and sort of sublimated the idea! You know what they say about there being no truly "new" ideas.
Sounds like a great movie even though I am not a big fan of Will Farrel.

I agree with you though, if I was simply telling what was possibly going to happen then I'd write and maybe try to warn the people. If I was truly authoring the demise of another living being I would stop and take up another hobby. Then again I am evil enough to TOTALLY get off on writing super sexy porn novels knowing the people involved were getting to experience some incredible sex. Voyeurism in the extreme!
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