Naked Reader Book Club Discussion: Take Me There -Trans and Genderqueer Erotica, Edited by Tristan Taormino (January 24, 8-10 PM EST)

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Naked Reader Book Club Discussion: Take Me There -Trans and Genderqueer Erotica, Edited by Tristan Taormino (January 24, 8-10 PM EST)

Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by tim1724
I find "they" the hardest pronoun for me to use. I know Jiz Lee uses it, for example, but it makes me cringe a bit inside whenever I have to use it. The made-up ones such as the spivak pronouns offend my sense of grammar much less.
And those are the ones that tangle me all up. Ah well, to each his / her / hyr / zyr own I'll just keep being Chairman Antipova
01/24/2012
NuMe NuMe
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Originally posted by melovecoffee
That's only when i'm on my A game. When I was a journalism major, I would often call my advisor's baby "it" mostly out of fear. Since my niece was born, I've learned to become more sensitive to the parents feelings, I ...
Congratulations melovecoffee (I love that name!!!) You're the second winner of a $25 Edenfatasys gift card this evening. Please email me at Liz @ Edenfantasys .com with your EF name and I'll get that out to you.
01/24/2012
melovecoffee melovecoffee
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Originally posted by bzzingbee
I always call babies I don't know 'it' and my friends always make fun of me. I didn't grow up around babies...so I'm just uncomfortable anyways, lol
You have an excuse, I'm the oldest of 3. I just didn't start liking babies until my niece was born and let's be honest, little misses sets the bar high for babydom.
01/24/2012
Willow Wand Willow Wand
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Originally posted by NoOneNosMe
Yes I totally agree. I do what I do because it makes me happy and that is just how my mind works. A lot of people do not experiment with their gender because society has deemed it "bad". Everyone believes that it is wrong. But in reality it ...
I am a pansexual female, although I have HUGE penis envy! I don't want to be seen by others as male, I just want to stroke a strap on once in a while and pretend I'm jacking off my own cock. Is that so bad? :/
01/24/2012
Brendada Brendada
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Originally posted by melovecoffee
exactly, I feel like plenty of niches in erotica have their beginnings and are almost hidden from public view. It's a real tragedy, I found more love and feeling in this book than any of the Twilight books combined.

I love the blurring of ...
Love this, can we quote you on it?


"I found more love and feeling in this book than any of the Twilight books combined."
01/24/2012
winterseve winterseve
My favorite question to find out the baby's pronoun is "How old?" It's grammatically incorrect, but then the parent usually says "she or he is __months old"
01/24/2012
bzzingbee bzzingbee
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Originally posted by specialKandL
I also liked Dixie Bell! The adventures of huck finn was one of my favorite books in high school and i think kate bornstein did a great job of continuing the huck finn story!
I agree, it was a very interesting read!
01/24/2012
melovecoffee melovecoffee
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Originally posted by NuMe
Congratulations melovecoffee (I love that name!!!) You're the second winner of a $25 Edenfatasys gift card this evening. Please email me at Liz @ Edenfantasys .com with your EF name and I'll get that out to you.
Yay! Oooh. This is making coming out of lurkie lurk mode worth it! Thanks!!
01/24/2012
Blue Koi Blue Koi
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Originally posted by melovecoffee
and that's a wonderful thing, I wish people could see beyond lines. There's a freedom in there not to be barred by one gender or another. Doing what makes you happy and what makes you feel like you.
I couldn't agree more. The older I get, the less relevant I feel who I'm sleeping with is to my preferred gender identity. Which is a long way of saying I mostly sleep with the opposite sex, but NEVER identify as heterosexual. For me it's definitely a political assignation.
01/24/2012
wrmbreze wrmbreze
I think I am going to have to order the book this week. It seems very interesting. After watching the Live Nude Sex ( I think thats the name of it) all I can say is WOW!! really turned me on and if the book is half as good I need to read it.
01/24/2012
Kiki DeLovely Kiki DeLovely
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Originally posted by Blue Koi
I wonder if Tristan Taormino had any trouble finding good stories for this anthology? Did she have to cast more widely or did good ones come pouring in? These stories are so great.
Hi everyone! I'm one of the contributors to Take Me There (feeling humble that my story was chosen as the excerpt and overjoyed that so many folks enjoyed it!) and I'll be checking in on the convo here -- excited to hear more in depth discussion about the book and y'all's impressions/what struck you.

Blue Koi, I wanted to address your question -- though I definitely can't speak for Tristan and I didn't ask her, I doubt she had to cast a very wide net. I never saw a public call for submission on this anthology and so I'm guessing that she just put a call out to writers she knows who either were already writing trans/genderqueer erotica (such as myself) or others who were wanting to do so (such as some of the big name writers who don't usually write erotica).

Tristan has been a huge part of trans and genderqueer communities for many years and so she knows so many talented folks willing and wanting to write to this subject matter. (I can't tell you how incredibly honored I felt to be selected to appear in a book with so many well-respected and widely published/adored authors.)
01/24/2012
bzzingbee bzzingbee
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Originally posted by winterseve
My favorite question to find out the baby's pronoun is "How old?" It's grammatically incorrect, but then the parent usually says "she or he is __months old"
Very nice trick! I'll keep that in mind next time I'm confronted with a spawn...i mean baby, lol
01/24/2012
NoOneNosMe NoOneNosMe
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Originally posted by melovecoffee
So, out of curiosity, how did you connect with this book? Did you find any identifiable stories or characters with it?
This is actually my first meeting and I didn't purchase the book. I have emailed Liz to get a copy. I did read the excerpt that was in a link in a previous post. I felt so close to the genderqueer character. It was almost like it was me.
01/24/2012
Brendada Brendada
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Originally posted by Antipova
Oh! I should clarify, the pronouns that had me confused as I was reading were

"hyr"
and
"zir"
We are getting an audio production of the book made and the poor narrator had a really hard time with pronunciation and all this. It was wild but will be done and properly so!
01/24/2012
tim1724 tim1724
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Originally posted by Willow Wand
I am a pansexual female, although I have HUGE penis envy! I don't want to be seen by others as male, I just want to stroke a strap on once in a while and pretend I'm jacking off my own cock. Is that so bad? :/
Nothing wrong with that. I'd love to be able to flip a switch and have a pussy at times, but it ain't gonna happen. At least strapping on a cock is a pretty simple option; strapping a Fleshlight between my legs would be awkward at best.
01/24/2012
melovecoffee melovecoffee
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Originally posted by Brendada
Love this, can we quote you on it?


"I found more love and feeling in this book than any of the Twilight books combined."
Yes! 5 gold doubloons a print and all the erotica I can stand!
01/24/2012
specialKandL specialKandL
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Originally posted by winterseve
My favorite question to find out the baby's pronoun is "How old?" It's grammatically incorrect, but then the parent usually says "she or he is __months old"
ahh clever!
01/24/2012
Sacchi Sacchi
Another question: do you think some readers might be put off by the extent of BDSM and general kink in the book? Not you lot, of course--I know you too well--but others?

I was actually tickled to find a bit of dungeon gadgetry in "Out on Loan" I'd never heard of before, but maybe I've led a sheltered life.
01/24/2012
wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Kiki DeLovely
Hi everyone! I'm one of the contributors to Take Me There (feeling humble that my story was chosen as the excerpt and overjoyed that so many folks enjoyed it!) and I'll be checking in on the convo here -- excited to hear more in depth ...
Welcome!!!
01/24/2012
NuMe NuMe
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Originally posted by Kiki DeLovely
Hi everyone! I'm one of the contributors to Take Me There (feeling humble that my story was chosen as the excerpt and overjoyed that so many folks enjoyed it!) and I'll be checking in on the convo here -- excited to hear more in depth ...
Welcome! Thank you so much for joining us. Your story was wonderful! I loved it!
01/24/2012
Willow Wand Willow Wand
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
I think I am going to have to order the book this week. It seems very interesting. After watching the Live Nude Sex ( I think thats the name of it) all I can say is WOW!! really turned me on and if the book is half as good I need to read it.
The Live Sex show at the Masterbatathon? That was GREAT, I fell in lust with Jiz Lee cause of that!
01/24/2012
bzzingbee bzzingbee
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Originally posted by Kiki DeLovely
Hi everyone! I'm one of the contributors to Take Me There (feeling humble that my story was chosen as the excerpt and overjoyed that so many folks enjoyed it!) and I'll be checking in on the convo here -- excited to hear more in depth ...
welcome!
01/24/2012
kendra30752 kendra30752
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Originally posted by Willow Wand
Hi all! I am hoping you can help me out. I never seem to get book assignments. The email I have never replies, am I emailing the right person? I would LOVE to get in on these discussions and read some new books, but it never seems to work out for me. ...
Hey, I'm in the same boat! I spend some time reading the discussions on the books all the time and finally realized I could join when I saw it mentioned in one of the discussions. It must have had the wrong E-mail listed because I never got a reply so I came across another E-mail for joining the book club and had no reply. Just now when I went to E-mail Liz for a copy, I saw in my email that I had not ever sent a message to her E-mail address before. Make sense? That's when I came to the conclusion that it was the wrong E-mail address I had been using! LOL. Anyways, I guess you would E-mail Liz. She posted her E-mail address above. Liz@edenfantasys.com. I could be wrong, but I'm sure someone will step in and let you know for sure.
01/24/2012
Blue Koi Blue Koi
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Originally posted by Kiki DeLovely
Hi everyone! I'm one of the contributors to Take Me There (feeling humble that my story was chosen as the excerpt and overjoyed that so many folks enjoyed it!) and I'll be checking in on the convo here -- excited to hear more in depth ...
Of course, which is why she was just the person for the job. I didn't see any calls for submissions either.
01/24/2012
Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by bzzingbee
True, it just sounds off in some sentences like 'Nina teased they's clit'. (or should that be their?)
Right, then it would be "their clit." Even though it's not grammatically correct in English... you know how in Spanish, there are feminine nouns and masculine nouns? In German there are feminine, masculine, and gender-neutral nouns. And they have a "he/his" equivalent, a "she/hers" equivalent, and a "they/theirs" equivalent... they/their is (iirc, I haven't studied German in 10 years) the same thing they use for groups of people, the same way English does. "They walked to me. They took off their shirt, revealing (something nice). "

So it falls into place not so bad at all, provided you're okay with bending rules to fit languages that might be German, or might be your ten-years-distorted-me mory-of-German.
01/24/2012
NuMe NuMe
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Originally posted by Sacchi
Another question: do you think some readers might be put off by the extent of BDSM and general kink in the book? Not you lot, of course--I know you too well--but others?

I was actually tickled to find a bit of dungeon gadgetry in "Out on ...
I don't think so. Though I haven't read the book. But most people who purposely buy erotica are looking for something to rev their engines. Something new and out of the ordinary humdrum sex life. What better than a little BDSM?
01/24/2012
winterseve winterseve
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Originally posted by Sacchi
Another question: do you think some readers might be put off by the extent of BDSM and general kink in the book? Not you lot, of course--I know you too well--but others?

I was actually tickled to find a bit of dungeon gadgetry in "Out on ...
ooo. Now you make me want a copy. I love kink in books. I wasn't sure what all was in here since I haven't read. Still sounds interesting to get the perspective.
01/24/2012
wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Sacchi
Another question: do you think some readers might be put off by the extent of BDSM and general kink in the book? Not you lot, of course--I know you too well--but others?

I was actually tickled to find a bit of dungeon gadgetry in "Out on ...
I don't think it would be offensive to most people. I think many of us are in the closet kinky. We'd like it if we had someone we trusted to try it with us.
01/24/2012
Sacchi Sacchi
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Originally posted by Sacchi
I'll have to pass that along to Anna, who's a good friend of mine.
Uh oh, I blew it. I'll have to tell Giselle, not Anna. But here's what Anna wrote about her perspective as a femme in "Femme Fatigue."


Anna Watson—Femme Fatigue

"I think a lot about femme invisibility and how femmes are portrayed in fiction and in smut in particular. Because our society is still so sexist, I notice that butches and trans men often get much of the attention when it comes to talking about gender queer and gender fuck and just plain queer fucking. When Tristan put out a call for a trans and genderqueer erotica anthology, I wrote asking her if she considers femmes to be a part of genderqueer, and she wrote back that she does and bring it on. I can’t remember if that’s when the title “Femme Fatigue” popped into my head or if I thought of it later, but the title came first for this one. Then the femme herself came to me and started telling me her story and I just wrote it all down.

I think a femme is gender queer in the most stealth fashion possible, because, most of the time, someone looking at a femme can’t tell that she’s queer and can’t possibly be aware of her subversive nature. You are a girl but you don’t do what girls are supposed to do. You are absolutely fucking with your gender – to paraphrase from Tristan’s intro, sex complicates gender and gender complicates sex. In my story, I write about how sometimes a girl can get tired of being the wind beneath the wings and needs to have the focus be on her, her complicated sexuality, her precious body. That the femme in “Femme Fatigue” ends up in bed with a “regular lesbian”, fucks her, eats pussy (neither of which is possible with her trans husband), ends up being another kind of genderfuck as well as some seriously transformative, transgressive sex, even though it looks like just 2 lesbians having a one-night stand."
01/24/2012
Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by specialKandL
I also liked Dixie Bell! The adventures of huck finn was one of my favorite books in high school and i think kate bornstein did a great job of continuing the huck finn story!
Oh my gosh I loved that one! she even did a pretty good job making Twain's voice believable. And I just love stories set in the Civil War no matter what.
01/24/2012
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