#Workshop - June 29th @ 9pm - Grammar Workshop

Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by cherryredhead88
I have the Fairy wand and I absolutely love it! Works great for deep muscle massage too

I'm not sure how much more time we have but I do want to touch on one last thing: SPELLING!

So many times do I see misspelled words.

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We'd like to add "sit" and "set" to this (as in "I can set it on the floor"), because it's something that about half of our students struggle with.
06/29/2011
cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Well I feel like I got most of the things out that I wanted to talk about, but I'm not sure how long these things are supposed to last. Is there anything else that y'all want to know about?
06/29/2011
cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Well I feel like I got most of the things out that I wanted to talk about, but I'm not sure how long these things are supposed to last. Is there anything else that y'all want to know about?
06/29/2011
Antipova Antipova
Quote:
Originally posted by cherryredhead88
I have the Fairy wand and I absolutely love it! Works great for deep muscle massage too

I'm not sure how much more time we have but I do want to touch on one last thing: SPELLING!

So many times do I see misspelled words.

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So many of these errors can happen to anyone---even though I very clearly know all the differences, sometimes if I'm typing too fast I'll use an incorrect "your."

That's why I always sit on my drafts for a night before I publish them---you can see all your mistakes much more clearly with fresh eyes.

Another typing-too-fast mistake I'll make, is that any word that ends in an "in" will get a "g" attached. Because I type words like "thinking" and "neverending" so often, when I just want to type "within," my fingers think faster than my brain and I'll type "withing."

I had a friend named Dustin who would always tease me when I addressed my emails "Hey Dusting!"
06/29/2011
sexyintexas sexyintexas
Guys, I have to run. The kids are home and getting restless. I appriciate all of the help and tips. Thanks so much!
06/29/2011
Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
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Originally posted by Wondermom
would you recommend it for a beginner with toys who is looking for extremely discreet, her husband doesn't like toys.
For a beginner? Most definitely. I'm assuming you don't have a clit of steel like I do. If that's the case, it's definitely mid-range in power I'd say. For a more advanced user, it's pretty weak and it does run down more quickly than, say, the Pocket Fairy Mini, which seems to last the longest of the three I own.
06/29/2011
Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by cherryredhead88
Well I feel like I got most of the things out that I wanted to talk about, but I'm not sure how long these things are supposed to last. Is there anything else that y'all want to know about?
If it's possible to talk about sentence length, I'd be glad to hear some tips. Many new reviewers will have short choppy sentences, and I know that I get into a review better when sentences flow nicely.


And I, on the other hand, tend to make my sentences *waaaay* too long, with more clauses than you can shake a stick at.

Any words on finding a good balance there?
06/29/2011
Wondermom Wondermom
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Originally posted by Jul!a
Pshh, I wish!

But tomorrow night is also hangout night at Denny's. You'd have a great time there too
awww, I'm going to red robin, birthday dinner!
06/29/2011
cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Quote:
Originally posted by Alan & Michele
We'd like to add "sit" and "set" to this (as in "I can set it on the floor"), because it's something that about half of our students struggle with.
silicon or silicone?

If it’s the super-hygienic sex toy material that so many love, it’s silicone. If it’s the semi-conductive chemical element that is a major component of sand, it’s silicon. (Chances are, if seen in a review, it’s silicone.)

lay or lie?

You lay down a book, but lie down on the bed. You lay in bed for hours, while the book laid on the desktop.

sit
Noun: A period of sitting: "a sit in the shade".
Verb: Adopt or be in a position in which one's weight is supported by one's buttocks rather than one's feet and one's back is upright: "you'd better sit down

set
Noun: A group or collection of things that belong together or resemble one another or are usually found together: "a set of false teeth".
Verb: Put, lay, or stand (something) in a specified place or position: "Dana set the mug of tea down".
06/29/2011
cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Quote:
Originally posted by Alan & Michele
We'd like to add "sit" and "set" to this (as in "I can set it on the floor"), because it's something that about half of our students struggle with.
silicon or silicone?

If it’s the super-hygienic sex toy material that so many love, it’s silicone. If it’s the semi-conductive chemical element that is a major component of sand, it’s silicon. (Chances are, if seen in a review, it’s silicone.)

lay or lie?

You lay down a book, but lie down on the bed. You lay in bed for hours, while the book laid on the desktop.

sit
Noun: A period of sitting: "a sit in the shade".
Verb: Adopt or be in a position in which one's weight is supported by one's buttocks rather than one's feet and one's back is upright: "you'd better sit down

set
Noun: A group or collection of things that belong together or resemble one another or are usually found together: "a set of false teeth".
Verb: Put, lay, or stand (something) in a specified place or position: "Dana set the mug of tea down".
06/29/2011
Antipova Antipova
Quote:
Originally posted by cherryredhead88
silicon or silicone?

If it’s the super-hygienic sex toy material that so many love, it’s silicone. If it’s the semi-conductive chemical element that is a major component of sand, it’s silicon. (Chances are, if seen in a review, it’s silicone.) ... More
Good call w/r/t silicone vs. silicon---you don't see that in many new reviews, but when I read things from 2007 and 2008 that error crops up pretty frequently.
06/29/2011
cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by sexyintexas
Guys, I have to run. The kids are home and getting restless. I appriciate all of the help and tips. Thanks so much!
Thanks for coming and I hope this was useful!

Damn double posts
06/29/2011
Jul!a Jul!a
Quote:
Originally posted by cherryredhead88
Well I feel like I got most of the things out that I wanted to talk about, but I'm not sure how long these things are supposed to last. Is there anything else that y'all want to know about?
I think I'm good
06/29/2011
Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
Quote:
Originally posted by cherryredhead88
silicon or silicone?

If it’s the super-hygienic sex toy material that so many love, it’s silicone. If it’s the semi-conductive chemical element that is a major component of sand, it’s silicon. (Chances are, if seen in a review, it’s silicone.) ... More
Eeee gads yes on silicone vs. silicon! We've actually seen that one on product packaging!
06/29/2011
Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Wondermom
awww, I'm going to red robin, birthday dinner!
Yay! Happy birthday!!
06/29/2011
Antipova Antipova
Quote:
Originally posted by Antipova
If it's possible to talk about sentence length, I'd be glad to hear some tips. Many new reviewers will have short choppy sentences, and I know that I get into a review better when sentences flow nicely.


And I, on the other hand, ... More
I read this a few months ago and liked it a lot:

from Gary Provost, quoted in Roy Peter Clark’s (terrific) Writing Tools:

This sentence has five words. Here are five more words. Five-word sentences are fine. But several together become monotonous. Listen to what is happening. The writing is getting boring. The sound of it drones. It’s like a stuck record. The ear demands some variety. Now listen. I vary the sentence length, and I create music. Music. The writing sings. It has a pleasant rhythm, a lilt, a harmony. I use short sentences. And I use sentences of medium length. And sometimes, when I am certain the reader is rested, I will engage him with a sentence of considerable length, a sentence that burns with energy and builds with all the impetus of a crescendo, the roll of the drums, the crash of the cymbals–sounds that say listen to this, it is important.
06/29/2011
Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
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Originally posted by Antipova
I <3 the series comma.

All the academic standards vary, depending on which journal you're submitting a paper to. I am *so everlovin' glad* I joined a professional society that supports the series comma.
I love the Oxfcrd Comma as well. I could kill Vampire Weekend for that silly song even though I must say that I secretly love it. (The song is called "Oxford Comma and the refrain is something to the effect of "Who gives a f*** about an Oxford Comma," which is the same as a series comma).
06/29/2011
Wondermom Wondermom
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Originally posted by Kake aka PoeticErotica
For a beginner? Most definitely. I'm assuming you don't have a clit of steel like I do. If that's the case, it's definitely mid-range in power I'd say. For a more advanced user, it's pretty weak and it does run down more ... More
I do but my friend doesn't. I'm looking for the big plug in power for myself
06/29/2011
Jul!a Jul!a
Quote:
Originally posted by Antipova
I read this a few months ago and liked it a lot:

from Gary Provost, quoted in Roy Peter Clark’s (terrific) Writing Tools:

This sentence has five words. Here are five more words. Five-word sentences are fine. But several together become ... More
That is an awesome example, seriously.
06/29/2011
Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
Quote:
Originally posted by Jul!a
Pshh, I wish!

But tomorrow night is also hangout night at Denny's. You'd have a great time there too
I have no doubt!
06/29/2011
Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Kake aka PoeticErotica
I love the Oxfcrd Comma as well. I could kill Vampire Weekend for that silly song even though I must say that I secretly love it. (The song is called "Oxford Comma and the refrain is something to the effect of "Who gives a f*** about an ... More
On the one hand, at least they know of it as a concept? But on the other hand... I'm just gwoin'a shake my head in disdain. Or maybe loneliness, nobody loves me an' my Oxford commas. I'm glad you're on our team, Kake.
06/29/2011
Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Kake aka PoeticErotica
I have no doubt!
If you're ever near Chicago, lemme know. You're totally welcome at any of our Denny's nights
06/29/2011
Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
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Originally posted by cherryredhead88
That is awesome! I love that kind of stuff, I am pretty good at spelling although I have gotten pretty rusty lately.
My city is awesome for geeky bar scene stuff. There's also an art thing where you go to themed burlesque-y/pinup-y events with artist models and drink, socialize, draw, take photos, what have you, tomorrow night. It starts at 7pm and the Spelling Bee at 8:30 so I might try to stop in at both, depending on how close they are to each other -- I've never been to the Dr. Sketchy's bar before so I'm not sure where it is.
06/29/2011
Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Jul!a
That is an awesome example, seriously.
I know, I loved it. One of my biggest problems in writing is that my biggest influence is Thomas Jefferson. He's flipping brilliant, but *nobody* can stand to read his stuff straight through, and if you try to read it aloud you choke on it.

I realize that I write much differently when I'm writing in a quick-paced forum vs. when I'm writing an essay or journal article or even a review---but I sound kind of robotic and detached no matter what.
06/29/2011
cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Quote:
Originally posted by Antipova
If it's possible to talk about sentence length, I'd be glad to hear some tips. Many new reviewers will have short choppy sentences, and I know that I get into a review better when sentences flow nicely.


And I, on the other hand, ... More
Run on Sentences and Fragments

Fragment Sentences

A complete sentence will have at least one subject and one verb. Sentences are considered fragments when they are missing either a subject or a verb. Consider the following two fragment sentences and their corrected versions:

No Subject: Went to the store to buy brownie mix.
Added Subject: My dad went to the store to buy brownie mix.

No Verb: Brownie mix at the store expensive.
Added Verb: Brownie mix at the store was expensive.

In addition to containing a subject and verb, a complete sentence will express a complete thought. Consider the following two sentences and their revised versions.

Incomplete: When he went to the checkout counter to pay for the brownie mix.
Complete: When he went to the checkout counter to pay for the brownie mix, he got distracted by a display of cake mixes.

Incomplete: The variety of yummy cake mixes.
Complete: The variety of yummy cake mixes convinced him that he’d rather bake a cake than brownies tonight.



Run-On Sentences (Run-Ons)

A run-on sentence occurs when two or more independent clauses are combined without correct punctuation. An independent clause is a complete, simple sentence, meaning that it contains a subject, a verb, and a complete thought. There are a few ways to correct run-on sentences. Consider the following run-on sentence and the following options for revising it.

Run-On: The grocery store was really packed with people there must have been a big sale today.

Correction 1: The grocery store was really packed with people. There must have been a big sale today.

Here, the error has been corrected by simply breaking the run-on sentence into two sentences.

Correction 2: The grocery store was really packed with people, so there must have been a big sale today.

In this case, the sentence has been corrected by adding a coordinating conjunction and a comma. This is a compound sentence.

Correction 3: Because the grocery store was really packed with people, there must have been a big sale.

In this example, the sentence has been corrected by adding a subordinating conjunction and a comma. This is a complex sentence.




Run-On Sentence Exercises

Some of the sentences below are run-ons. Play editor on the sentences. Could you tell these writers why the run-ons are incorrect? Also, how would you tell the writers to fix them?

We were really busy at the restaurant tonight. I waited tables straight through from 3:30 to 11:30 I never sat down for even one break.
My dog had to go to the vet today. She cried and cried when the clipped her toenails, but then she was fine when they gave her a shot!
The book we had to read for class was really long my teacher doesn’t seem to understand that we have other classes to read for too.


*If you click on any of the OWL links you will find exercises at the bottom of the pages*
06/29/2011
Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
Quote:
Originally posted by Antipova
If it's possible to talk about sentence length, I'd be glad to hear some tips. Many new reviewers will have short choppy sentences, and I know that I get into a review better when sentences flow nicely.


And I, on the other hand, ... More
I tend to make mine too long as well.
06/29/2011
Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
Quote:
Originally posted by Jul!a
If you're ever near Chicago, lemme know. You're totally welcome at any of our Denny's nights
And if you're ever in Raleigh, we'll find something to do. Or Boston. I may be in Boston soon-ish.
06/29/2011
Antipova Antipova
Quote:
Originally posted by cherryredhead88
Run on Sentences and Fragments

Fragment Sentences

A complete sentence will have at least one subject and one verb. Sentences are considered fragments when they are missing either a subject or a verb. Consider the following two fragment ... More
The problem with me is---they're not technically run-ons. They're very, very nested and cumbersome, but they're still (usually!) technically correct.

Good links, though.
06/29/2011
cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by Antipova
The problem with me is---they're not technically run-ons. They're very, very nested and cumbersome, but they're still (usually!) technically correct.

Good links, though.
Thanks, and sorry if it got kind of long. I've never done a workshop before and the information is good but it's kind of tedious.

I love that example that you used above!


I know that I have a hard time with run on sentences and fragments/commas still, but when it comes down to it I think a good majority of the est reviewers here on Eden do a real good job.

I'm glad I'm never going into teaching! That shit was hard. lol
06/29/2011
Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
Quote:
Originally posted by Antipova
I know, I loved it. One of my biggest problems in writing is that my biggest influence is Thomas Jefferson. He's flipping brilliant, but *nobody* can stand to read his stuff straight through, and if you try to read it aloud you choke on ... More
That's funny because I like writers like Bret Easton Ellis and Hemingway and Fitzgerald and Pahlaniuk, who I associate with shorter, choppier sentences, but, according to a friend, I'm very Ulyssian, at times. Thanks, Joyce, who I've never even read, for being the primary influence in my communicative writing.
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