You've got to be kidding me....

Adam Burns Adam Burns
So I have spent the past few days sorting through various glass manufacturer's FAQ pages in an effort to bring everyone one concise page of glass information. Look what I just stumbled upon...yes this company is for real, referring to a glass "finger sleeve" that they sell. Perfect example of what not to reference for accurate information on glass...Has anyone heard of this company/reseller and does this statement strike anyone as a bit odd or frightening?

"The Tickler (RG38) is one size fits most, if piece gets stuck on finger use Windex to try to losen the piece, if not sucessful seek medical attention immediately. This glass piece is recomended for external use only, if used internally do not insert more than 2 inches, if piece gets stuck internally seek medical attention immediately to have removed. RubyGlass21 and our affiliates are not held responsible or liable in any manner if piece gets stuck internally or on finger."


WOW!
10/09/2009
Lara Lara
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Originally posted by Adam Burns
So I have spent the past few days sorting through various glass manufacturer's FAQ pages in an effort to bring everyone one concise page of glass information. Look what I just stumbled upon...yes this company is for real, referring to a glass ... More
Super, super disturbing - for all sorts of reasons, the hazards of the product itself only being one of them.

Here's the manufacturer's link for those who don't want to do the searching... link
10/09/2009
Adam Burns Adam Burns
Perfect example of why glass needs to separated by manufacturer, rather than the medium itself. Not all glass is alike, nor are the people running the companies. Thanks Lara. I thought I had seen just about everything...well almost everything
10/09/2009
Saraid Saraid
Hmmm, I have something from them and like it. I know a lot of people have had good experiences with their toys, but that's a weird statement.
10/09/2009
Adam Burns Adam Burns
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Originally posted by Saraid
Hmmm, I have something from them and like it. I know a lot of people have had good experiences with their toys, but that's a weird statement.
Saraid, I believe Rubyglass21 is just a retail website selling others' products. However I could be mistaken...companies pop up (and disappear) every year! I have never heard of them in our 7 years of business... I did notice many pieces that are being offered are actually products coming from overseas manufacturers (every couple of months we receive catalogues and solicitations from Chinese companies trying to sell us their wares. Very recognizable pieces... and they are available for purchase on this website. A lot of the Chinese glass is quite good actually...but yes this statement is very strange. If something is that dangerous to use...why offer it for sale??
10/09/2009
Saraid Saraid
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Originally posted by Adam Burns
Saraid, I believe Rubyglass21 is just a retail website selling others' products. However I could be mistaken...companies pop up (and disappear) every year! I have never heard of them in our 7 years of business... I did notice many pieces that ... More
Huh, interesting. It says on the site that things are made in the USA in Eugene, Portland. This is making me trust manufacturers less and less. Why can't people be honest (or at least clear, if they are indeed made in the US)?
10/09/2009
Pumpkin Lady Pumpkin Lady
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Originally posted by Adam Burns
Saraid, I believe Rubyglass21 is just a retail website selling others' products. However I could be mistaken...companies pop up (and disappear) every year! I have never heard of them in our 7 years of business... I did notice many pieces that ... More
And how!

That's messed up. And WINDEX? Yes, great idea. I mean, a dab won't hurt you but who dares tell a consumer to put cleaning chemicals on their skin? Sheesh...
10/09/2009
Lara Lara
The "about us" page on their site got me interested. Call me biased, but there's something about shoddy copywriting that really, really turns me off. I poked around a little bit further and got even more frustrated. They claim to manufacture everything themselves. So compare this link to this link. Does anyone else fail to see a difference?

Sheesh.
10/09/2009
Saraid Saraid
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Originally posted by Lara
The "about us" page on their site got me interested. Call me biased, but there's something about shoddy copywriting that really, really turns me off. I poked around a little bit further and got even more frustrated. They claim to ... More
Looks basically the same, but the RG21 has a curve to it while the Phallix doesn't. Maybe they just rip off people's designs? I don't like accusing, but it sure looks like it.
10/09/2009
Adam Burns Adam Burns
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Originally posted by Saraid
Huh, interesting. It says on the site that things are made in the USA in Eugene, Portland. This is making me trust manufacturers less and less. Why can't people be honest (or at least clear, if they are indeed made in the US)?
That's why I tell everyone the 3 year rule on glass toy manufacturers. For whatever reason, glass toy companies come and go faster than one can blink. Most glass makers come from the "counterculture" business and well, let's just say aren't in the biz for right reasons. The idea of attending AVN tradeshows sometimes is very appealing and distracting for many. A business plan just isn't in many glassblower's vernacular. Sad, but true. Oh well, glad your experiences have been positive.
10/09/2009
Saraid Saraid
Also, they say they have been in business for over 15 years but under a different name - they fail to mention the other name. This is all so odd.
10/09/2009
Adam Burns Adam Burns
Look, I gave up on protecting our Intellectual property years ago, but you are Lara, look at our original design which was created in 2004.link
and now look at this: link

It's really just a matter of quality...and for many a matter of staying loyal as a customer.

I have learned to pick my battles.
10/09/2009
Pumpkin Lady Pumpkin Lady
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Originally posted by Adam Burns
That's why I tell everyone the 3 year rule on glass toy manufacturers. For whatever reason, glass toy companies come and go faster than one can blink. Most glass makers come from the "counterculture" business and well, let's just ... More
"Most glass makers come from the "counterculture"... A business plan just isn't in many glassblower's vernacular."

Hehehe...aint it the truth.
10/09/2009
Adam Burns Adam Burns
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Originally posted by Saraid
Also, they say they have been in business for over 15 years but under a different name - they fail to mention the other name. This is all so odd.
Glass sex toys have not been around for 15 years. The first company was Knowmind Enterpises, AKA Asstroknots, the second was Phallix, starting in late 2001 I believe, and the third was yours truly, XHale...we began commerce in 2003. The way to check on a company would be searching the USPTO website for trademarks. All serious companies will have a registered trademark as can be seen here.link Our application took years, but, yes it is a registered trademark.
10/09/2009
Purple Foxglove Purple Foxglove
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Originally posted by Saraid
Looks basically the same, but the RG21 has a curve to it while the Phallix doesn't. Maybe they just rip off people's designs? I don't like accusing, but it sure looks like it.
Check out the "actual size photo," it's the way the photo is taken that looks straight, but it actually does have a curve. Wow, crazy stuff.
10/09/2009
Epiphora Epiphora
Wow. RubyGlass21 is not a retail website. They are a small glass company based in Oregon. I have received several of their items, and they are of impeccable quality. In fact, they are working on a custom piece for me right now. A little Googling will show you that they have also sponsored several contests and given toys to review to reviewers. I have heard nothing bad about this company, and have had no bad experience with them.

But mostly I'm agitated with your original post. It's a glass finger sleeve. There are precautions. It COULD get caught on one's finger, or it could end up in one's vagina. Seems to me that RubyGlass21 is just trying to cover their asses, which is something one another company I can think of (that you seem to support) did not do when it came to something that could be a hazard. I think it's pretty ridiculous and low of you to start this thread, to be honest. It reminds me of grade school and picking on the little guy just to make yourself look better.
10/10/2009
Juliettia Juliettia
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Originally posted by Epiphora
Wow. RubyGlass21 is not a retail website. They are a small glass company based in Oregon. I have received several of their items, and they are of impeccable quality. In fact, they are working on a custom piece for me right now. A little Googling will ... More
I have to agree. From what I've read they only wanted to inform the buyer of the possible problems.
10/10/2009
Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
While I agree with some of the points made here (WTF Windex), the whole approach seemed a little juvenile, especially when you consider that this company isn't here to defend itself.
10/10/2009
Darling Dove Darling Dove
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Originally posted by Epiphora
Wow. RubyGlass21 is not a retail website. They are a small glass company based in Oregon. I have received several of their items, and they are of impeccable quality. In fact, they are working on a custom piece for me right now. A little Googling will ... More
Gotta agree with E here. Every glass company out there has a hearts dildo besides Phallix link And as far as copying overall goes it happens all over the board..
Even with companies that dont exclusively do glass.
don wands toy link
doc johnson toy link
Well unfortunately.. this is seeming a bit like some cheapshots to me? The finger sleeves have been around for a while, and not exclusively from RubyGlass.
So as per your conduct regarding new companies yeah... you've got to be kidding me.
10/10/2009
Purple Foxglove Purple Foxglove
I was simply reminding that the "actual size" can be useful in comparing products. The photos don't always show every angle of every toy.

I've personally never heard anything bad about RubyGlass21, in fact, I've heard a lot of praise and good things about they're products. And they're almost always willing to contribute, in terms of contests and such.

I have heard about the finger sleeves before (and I think there was another post about them awhile back) and I'd be more concerned about someone trying to use them anally, and the reprocussions of that, than it getting "stuck on a finger." But Windex? I can think of a lot of things that could work better, and I hope that advice is given with the reminder to then wash the windex off, completely.

But Adriana, I do agree with you, it's not like they're here to throw in their side of things.
10/10/2009
Juliettia Juliettia
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Originally posted by Purple Foxglove
I was simply reminding that the "actual size" can be useful in comparing products. The photos don't always show every angle of every toy.

I've personally never heard anything bad about RubyGlass21, in fact, I've heard a ... More
I believe in school when students would get rings or other things stuck on their fingers they used windex to get it off. I couldn't imagine spraying it in a delicate area, but it seems to be a old remedy.
10/10/2009
Purple Foxglove Purple Foxglove
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Originally posted by Juliettia
I believe in school when students would get rings or other things stuck on their fingers they used windex to get it off. I couldn't imagine spraying it in a delicate area, but it seems to be a old remedy.
Oye, that reminds me of a time when my little brother got a thick metal ring (go figure, it was a lord of the rings souvenir) stuck on one of his fingers. Could not get it off, not with butter, not with straight up canola oil, nothing. He started losing circulation and my parents ended up alternating between ice to cool his finger down, and a dremel, to file the damn thing off. Ugh, it was a nightmare.
10/10/2009
Adam Burns Adam Burns
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Originally posted by Darling Dove
Gotta agree with E here. Every glass company out there has a hearts dildo besides Phallix link And as far as copying overall goes it happens all over the board..
Even with companies that dont exclusively do glass.
don wands toy link
doc ... More
My exact point Darling Dove, and my apologies if this post has been misinterpreted or taken out of context. The focus here was on a product being sold on a particular retail website, not the company who has produced it. You have stated.. "the finger sleeves have been around for a while". My exact point here, as this is not an attack per se on one company but rather a well warranted criticism of a product that should NOT be on the market due to its inherent risks. And please keep in mind...I started the post because I found this information on a retail website. This is not a witch hunt on a company.
10/10/2009
Adam Burns Adam Burns
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Originally posted by Darling Dove
Gotta agree with E here. Every glass company out there has a hearts dildo besides Phallix link And as far as copying overall goes it happens all over the board..
Even with companies that dont exclusively do glass.
don wands toy link
doc ... More
My exact point Darling Dove, and my apologies if this post has been misinterpreted or taken out of context. The focus here was on a product being sold on a particular retail website, not the company who has produced it. You have stated.. "the finger sleeves have been around for a while". My exact point here, as this is not an attack per se on one company but rather a well warranted criticism of a product that should NOT be on the market due to its inherent risks. And please keep in mind...I started the post because I found this information on a retail website. This is not a witch hunt on a company.
10/10/2009
Adam Burns Adam Burns
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Originally posted by Purple Foxglove
I was simply reminding that the "actual size" can be useful in comparing products. The photos don't always show every angle of every toy.

I've personally never heard anything bad about RubyGlass21, in fact, I've heard a ... More
There is a safe way to make this product, that would be leaving a hole in the tip to avoid a suction effect. The sleeve could also be made longer to minimize any risks of losing inside one's body.
10/10/2009
Darling Dove Darling Dove
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Originally posted by Adam Burns
My exact point Darling Dove, and my apologies if this post has been misinterpreted or taken out of context. The focus here was on a product being sold on a particular retail website, not the company who has produced it. You have stated.. "the ... More
You make frequent references to 'the company' and asking about references for them and also casting suspicion EX; "Perfect example of why glass needs to separated by manufacturer...Not all glass is alike, nor are the people running the companies" "I did notice many pieces that are being offered are actually products coming from overseas manufacturers (every couple of months we receive catalogues and solicitations from Chinese companies trying to sell us their wares. Very recognizable pieces... and they are available for purchase on this website."
As well as feeling the need to point out that they 'copied'.
Sorry but, if you were not meaning to witch hunt, then please think more carefully about your wording next time?
10/10/2009
Juliettia Juliettia
"rather a well warranted criticism of a product that should NOT be on the market due to its inherent risks"

Then this means that most all products such as cock rings, jelly products, certain lubricants, vibrators, etc should be off the market as well? Every product has some inherent risk. At least the 'retail company' made it know that there is a risk and a possible remedy. Even if it wasn't the BEST remedy. That's more than some companies do.
10/10/2009
Adam Burns Adam Burns
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Originally posted by Darling Dove
You make frequent references to 'the company' and asking about references for them and also casting suspicion EX; "Perfect example of why glass needs to separated by manufacturer...Not all glass is alike, nor are the people running the ... More
fair enough Darling Dove. Have a nice evening
10/10/2009
Adam Burns Adam Burns
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Originally posted by Juliettia
"rather a well warranted criticism of a product that should NOT be on the market due to its inherent risks"

Then this means that most all products such as cock rings, jelly products, certain lubricants, vibrators, etc should be off ... More
Not all products, but the recent popularity and introduction of new materials has enabled many cottage industries to flourish in the adult toy business. You are correct in your statement in regards to many newer mediums (for toys) and newer products being made of such. I believe insurance policies put many manufacturers minds at ease, as does the term adult "novelty".
10/10/2009
Epiphora Epiphora
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Originally posted by Juliettia
"rather a well warranted criticism of a product that should NOT be on the market due to its inherent risks"

Then this means that most all products such as cock rings, jelly products, certain lubricants, vibrators, etc should be off ... More
Perfectly said.
10/10/2009
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