Er....someone...anyone ?

As I said in my initial post, I DID attempt to resolve this in private. I do not think this is a cause for "respect" on my behalf, but "respect" for those who are supposed to support the reviewers here. I have been here a long time, and have never seen things handled so shabbily. Who am I seeking respect from? You? Other reviewers? Management?

I find your tone a bit insulting and condescending. I am not a child that needs to be told how I should behave. Nor do I need to hear a sob story about management. I did not bring this to the forum to cause upset, I brought it to get an answer to my question. Victoria was given every opportunity to address this privately, and did not come through. What is insulting about your tone, is that you speak as if you have extensive experience here in dealing with situations like this, and you do not. There have been three persons in Victoria's position since I joined EF, and never has this kind of thing been an issue. Not to mention I BATTLED for an off site forum for situations like this, and was vehemently refused.

You are not in a position to see and know the things I do, so please do not tell me how I should have or could have handled this, this was not the intention of the OP.

If this situation brings upset, so be it. I really don't see it myself. The only person getting defensive and upset is you. It is clear you battle on the side of the powers that be, whatever you motivation is.

My thoughts exactly!

Thank you for that lovely insight.

I heavily apologize if you think someone passed the position of "REVIEWER REGULATOR" on to you. It's quite a responsibility.

You keep forgetting the original post, that I keep referencing to, that says I DID EMAIL THEM.

A very smart person once told me that although I should be thankful for the gifts EF has bestowed upon me, I should not compromise my integrity and always consider the source.

I am fully aware you covet here in anticipation of my response, so I will post this directly.

Hardy har

No one brought drama here, well almost no one....

May i refer you back to my original post, again.

The direction this thread took was the result of something, or someone else.

I offered up emails in private to rebut some of the things Victoria said that were untrue. It's my right to defend myself, however I chose not to do that publicly and save Victoria the embarassment. My reasons for doing that REALLY do not need an explanation.....really .

Private emails? I saw Victoria's email, and it ASKED if Betty wanted her to post it in the forums.

I just don't understand why Betty wasn't allowed to post about this. 10 days is a long time to wait for an email response. Since I have never had a review "declined," I would have probably done the wrong thing. She did not start this for drama, but as a last resort, so stop making it sound like that.

Not so much...........

It would be simple to dismiss things with the wave of a magic wand in the hopes that things would just go back to the ways things were.

I am concerned about many things here, more than what I was originally concerned about (let me direct folks to the OP....again)

First, for the final time, every attempt was made to get an answer to my question through the appropriate channels....my attempts were either ignored or treated as unimportant. Whichever the case is, I did my part, but I was unsucessful.

Second, (i hate to do this, but I am left with no choice, silence is not golden) I was told in an email that this thread would be deleted, because someone was afraid of getting in trouble. Again, we are faced with an individual that would rather censor our opinions and thoughts than deal with the original issue at hand. Completely counter-productive and a little shady. For an organization who had no problem dismissing the fact that they released my real name, address, and phone number to the general public, they sure seem concerned about being thrown under the bus. Sorry, I have no sympathy for someone who did not do their job getting called on their irresponsibility. If I don't do MY job well, people could get hurt. Lucky that is not the case here, there would be many casualties.

Third, I am going away for the weekend, so I intend to drink a lot, fuck a lot, and further explore my options in regard to EF. I am not saying this to induce a barrage of "please don't go" emails, but simply to indicate that perhaps I have grown weary of this joint. My usefulness now is questionable to me, and there are other fish in the sea....who value their reviewers.

Have a nice weekend all

Ah fuck... Here we go again.

First. Epiphora - I completely apologize for now and ever mispelling your name. For the record - I was on Eden last night while cooking dinner, dealing with a child with a fever, and after telling my boss that I simply was not going to participate in a fundamental aspect of the school. I didn't scroll up to the top of the page to correctly remember her name. I did my best, and now that I'm aware of making a mistake - I'll try to do better.

Betty - before you leave think about what you benefits you can find from the relationships, and the information and the products that Eden has to offer. Then look around at all the rest of the online sites.

All of the staff of Eden - It's pretty clear that you are fighting the same issues again and again. You are dealing with drama on the forum and telling the reviewers to "grow up." This is a problem that you clearly haven't addressed sufficiently. There are communication issues that keep coming up. There is an undercurrent of mistrust and possibly more negative adjectives.

I looked at that review, and I'm familiar with the guidelines. I like Betty a lot, but I will agree that in my mind that is not an objective review. I'm personally a bit fond of a little rough treatment or hard toys. However, Eden is equally at fault here. Unless I'm miss understanding something - they sent the review back under 1. DECLINED not PLEASE REVISE, not objective, and 2. There was no response to requests for explanation.

Perhaps there needs to be more staff handing email?

I know you weren't doing it on purpose; it's just that I'm an English major and it made me twitch a bit. Sorry about that.

I've read through the whole thread and it all sounds messy and horrible. I know you said you were given your answer as soon as this thread went up - were you given the option of correcting your review?

The ratings are well... juvenile, and I hope that you aren't too disheartened by them.

Betty Rocket has left the building. This matter is closed and over.

It is so hard to write a review sometimes and not include the objectivity.. I agree 110% it is good in theory but hard in practice...