#SexIsSocial - Feminish: Sex Pozzies

Ansley Ansley




Welcome to this week's featured SexIs article:


Feminish: Sex Pozzies, by Livia Drew!




Livia self-identifies as a feminist, but it wasn't always this way. After becoming exposed to the many facets of feminist ideas she learned there was a lot more to the movement than man-hating and divisions between career women and women who wanted to be homemakers. You can read the full article to see how her ideas and beliefs changed over time and how she discovered that feminism wasn't anti-sex, on the contrary the movement is quite sex-positive.

While reading her article my mind consulted its data banks and remembered a conversation I once had many years ago. The basis of the convo was this: birth control was invented for the sole purpose of women taking control over their sex lives and reproduction schedules while simultaneously opening the door for very productive careers. That's how I left the conversation and that's how I felt up until the very moment I read Livia's article. I was shocked to be confronted with a possibility that sex became a bad thing in the feminist world. I'm still shaking my head on how that is possible and will probably end up doing additional research on the matter. So I gotta ask...

Did Livia's article shatter any misconceptions about feminism that you may have had?
Answers (public voting - your screen name will appear in the results):
Do you think the world is more sex positive now than it was in the 60's?
GQdude
1
Yes, in general. Always room for improvement though.
Ryuson , TransMarc , atryonix , StayceeO , XxFallenAngelxX , Trixxxy , MasqueVivi , kendra30752 , Rayne Millaray , Kindred , padmeamidala , indiana , Kitka , Sima-pusya , GQdude , ArcaneBlast , joiedejouets , BrittaniMaree , spiced
19
No, not really...too many countries are in the dark about sex and its benefits.
Jessica Rabbit , guppiefish , EmuLove , SamanthaMoon
4
I can't really say either way.
SneakersAndPearls , fizzygato , ibetannerz
3
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Do you think the U.S. is more sex positive today than in the 60's?
Definitely!
atryonix , Trixxxy , kendra30752 , Kindred , indiana , spiced
6
Eh, six of one half-dozen of another.
SneakersAndPearls , Ryuson , fizzygato , MasqueVivi , Jessica Rabbit , Rayne Millaray , padmeamidala , Kitka , guppiefish , SamanthaMoon , ibetannerz , ArcaneBlast , joiedejouets , BrittaniMaree
14
Not at all, we're going backwards not forwards.
guppiefish , EmuLove
2
..
TransMarc
1
Are you a feminist?
GQdude
1
Yes!
TransMarc , fizzygato , MasqueVivi , indiana , guppiefish , SamanthaMoon
6
No!
Jessica Rabbit
1
I believe in equality for everyone, what's with the labels?
Incendiaire , SneakersAndPearls , Ryuson , PeaceToTheMiddleEast , atryonix , StayceeO , Trixxxy , Jessica Rabbit , padmeamidala , Kitka , ibetannerz , GQdude , ArcaneBlast , joiedejouets , BrittaniMaree , spiced
16
I believe in "equal but different", no labels needed for that either.
fizzygato , guppiefish , EmuLove , ibetannerz , ArcaneBlast
5
Other...
fizzygato , Rayne Millaray , soccerfan , chidoll
4
Total votes: 83 (30 voters)
Poll is closed
01/03/2013
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SneakersAndPearls SneakersAndPearls
Feminism means something different to everyone. Instead, I just consider myself a thinking human that believes in equal rights. I don't think I have to label myself as anything to do that.
01/03/2013
Ryuson Ryuson
I'm a feminist in the sense that I think that women should have the same rights and same wages as men, but not that I think that women are better than men. I think that we are all equal as people. So I dunno, some people would say that I am and some would say I'm not.
01/03/2013
TransMarc TransMarc
I checked the "--" for 2nd question because I guess it is the case, but I live in France so I'm not sure at all!
01/03/2013
MasqueVivi MasqueVivi
The actual position of feminism is not that women are better than men. I feel like so many people have been given factually incorrect ideas of what feminism is thanks to bad press in the media and tv that it scares them away from the word. There are no "many ideas of what feminism means" there is what is falsely represented as feminism, and there is actual feminism.

The truth is, if you believe women should be truly equal and have the SAME opportunities and expectations as men do in society, you're already a feminist whether you embrace the word or not.
01/04/2013
namelesschaos namelesschaos
I take major issues with this part of the article.

"You could dress like a “skank”….as far as we’re concerned, it’s not objectification, it’s sexual identification, no different from your gender identity."

Actually no, no “we” wouldn’t because that is NOT sexual identification that is dressing in certain manner that has multiple possible meanings, sexual expression being only one of multiple. Example: I know self-identified prudes who dress “skank”, as our “respectable modest” dress was clearly not invented by people living in hot, humid environments. It may be a part of your sexual identity and how you express it but it isn’t how anyone actually identifies. You may identify as a slut and express it by wearing “skank” clothes, but no one identifies simply as "skank clothing wearer", you may wear a "suit and pants" as part of your gender identity and gender presentation but no one identifies as simply suit and pants wearing person (and even if they did your post does not indicate that they actually identify as such meaning your still just labeling).

The biggest irony being that in the process of saying it not objectification you are arguably objectifying this hypothetical woman. Clothing is an object; sexual identification is a private subjective self-identification. You are erasing the subjectivity and instead reducing her (or at least part of her) to her clothing by saying it is her subjectivity. Sexual identification is (by definition) whatever the person say it is and only that it; is not dressing like a “skank” or your sexual behavior it is how a person perceive those thing as being part of their sense of self, if they even perceive them as part of their sense of self.

This statement isn’t sex positive (term I dislike btw but that a topic for another day), it is not something you'll hear if you talk to a sex pozzy as the author claims (she is the first I've ever seen make such a claim). Being "sex positive" is acknowledging and respecting all form of sexual subjectivity, doing so requires acknowledging that we can’t know another sexual subjectivity (sexual and gender identification) based on manner of dress or number of sexual partners. Saying that anything but what a person explicitly states as is their sexual identity (or even a part of it if they don’t believe it as such) is the exact same thing the "sex-negative" people do.
01/04/2013
Rayne Millaray Rayne Millaray
Quote:
Originally posted by namelesschaos
I take major issues with this part of the article.

"You could dress like a “skank”….as far as we’re concerned, it’s not objectification, it’s sexual identification, no different from your gender identity."

Actually no, no “we” ... More
I'm on season 3 of How I Met Your Mother, and I've gotta say...there are definitely some people who identify as suit wearers.
01/04/2013
SamanthaMoon SamanthaMoon
Quote:
Originally posted by MasqueVivi
The actual position of feminism is not that women are better than men. I feel like so many people have been given factually incorrect ideas of what feminism is thanks to bad press in the media and tv that it scares them away from the word. There are ... More
Hear! Hear! I wholehardedly agree!
01/05/2013
Sima-pusya Sima-pusya
Yes, in general. Always room for improvement though.
01/05/2013
GQdude GQdude
Quote:
Originally posted by Ryuson
I'm a feminist in the sense that I think that women should have the same rights and same wages as men, but not that I think that women are better than men. I think that we are all equal as people. So I dunno, some people would say that I am and ... More
I agree with you completely. I think there are a lot of feminists who only concentrates on the rights of women and forget about equality. I think feminism in its true form means gaining equality, not surpassing another gender.
01/05/2013
soccerfan soccerfan
i agree
01/05/2013
Total posts: 11
Unique posters: 11