Easy Changes That Address Fred's Points

sexyscreenname sexyscreenname
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Originally posted by Ansley
We read it all. We're going back to 2009, clean up a few things and get everything back on track.
Awesome news!
06/25/2013
sexyscreenname sexyscreenname
to the person above me:

#1 you are posting in the wrong thread and section
#2 edit your post, your real name is not indexed on google or Eden's own search function but now that you have that post now everyone knows your real name
#3 call Eden, the people who answer the phones are nice and will help you out and have you helped in a few minutes.

edit: its back to your normal screen name, edit your post if you are concerned with your real name on EF.
06/25/2013
Edeneve Edeneveef Edeneve Edeneveef
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Originally posted by Ansley
We read it all. We're going back to 2009, clean up a few things and get everything back on track.
a lot of us weren't here in 2009. can you tell us what the community program was like at that time?
06/25/2013
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Edeneve Edeneveef
a lot of us weren't here in 2009. can you tell us what the community program was like at that time?
Things were a lot more...simple then. The review program was no where near as complicated, points weren't given for reviews or forum participation. A lot of the competition aspects of the site weren't in place yet so there was less stepping on toes or trying to one up another. It's hard to explain but the entire feel of the community was different - upbeat, positive, fun...
06/25/2013
No-nita No-nita
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Originally posted by Ansley
Things were a lot more...simple then. The review program was no where near as complicated, points weren't given for reviews or forum participation. A lot of the competition aspects of the site weren't in place yet so there was less stepping ... More
I didn't realize there were competitive aspects of the website - do you mean the contests on the forums?
06/25/2013
Edeneve Edeneveef Edeneve Edeneveef
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Originally posted by Ansley
Things were a lot more...simple then. The review program was no where near as complicated, points weren't given for reviews or forum participation. A lot of the competition aspects of the site weren't in place yet so there was less stepping ... More
so what initiated the points program? and what was the purpose of it?
06/25/2013
UrNaughtyaAngel UrNaughtyaAngel
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Originally posted by Ansley
Things were a lot more...simple then. The review program was no where near as complicated, points weren't given for reviews or forum participation. A lot of the competition aspects of the site weren't in place yet so there was less stepping ... More
I think that is when I registered but I have always been in and out of EF so I can't remember much about how it was.


Stormy do you think it could go back to that way? I didn't know you had been here that long as well.
06/25/2013
Edeneve Edeneveef Edeneve Edeneveef
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Originally posted by Ansley
Things were a lot more...simple then. The review program was no where near as complicated, points weren't given for reviews or forum participation. A lot of the competition aspects of the site weren't in place yet so there was less stepping ... More
to address Fred's comment regarding writing a lot of reviews w/i a short period of time. does that apply to double points week?
06/25/2013
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Edeneve Edeneveef
so what initiated the points program? and what was the purpose of it?
The points program was an incentive to reward community members for their efforts in promoting EF. I wasn't around when it was suggested, designed and implemented (meaning I wasn't staff then). So I'm not exactly sure who was involved and how the original values were determined.
06/25/2013
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by UrNaughtyaAngel
I think that is when I registered but I have always been in and out of EF so I can't remember much about how it was.


Stormy do you think it could go back to that way? I didn't know you had been here that long as well.
I had been shopping here for awhile and slowly eased into the forums in 2010-ish when I was doing the housewife thing full-time. I've seen the community grow and change in so many ways...not all of them good.

I really think it can. Ultimately it's up to the people who want to stick it out and see where we want to take the community...there is so much potential here and I'd really love to see things become productive and fun to be a part of again.
06/25/2013
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Edeneve Edeneveef
to address Fred's comment regarding writing a lot of reviews w/i a short period of time. does that apply to double points week?
I believe RAW is excluded, provided the reviews are in-line with the rest of the reviews you've published. Say someone turned out 20 reviews in that week and they weren't anything like the reviews they would normally write, then that would be a red flag. Does that make sense?
06/25/2013
Edeneve Edeneveef Edeneve Edeneveef
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Originally posted by Ansley
I believe RAW is excluded, provided the reviews are in-line with the rest of the reviews you've published. Say someone turned out 20 reviews in that week and they weren't anything like the reviews they would normally write, then that would be ... More
what is RAW?
06/25/2013
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Edeneve Edeneveef
what is RAW?
Review Amnesty Week...
06/25/2013
Edeneve Edeneveef Edeneve Edeneveef
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Originally posted by Ansley
Review Amnesty Week...
since I didn't get a chance to read all of Fred's 6/19 post by the time I found it, what happens if someone doesn't complete the form?
06/25/2013
KatPawz2003 KatPawz2003
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Originally posted by Ansley
I believe RAW is excluded, provided the reviews are in-line with the rest of the reviews you've published. Say someone turned out 20 reviews in that week and they weren't anything like the reviews they would normally write, then that would be ... More
How does this apply if all of the reviews you have written is voted either EU or U? I only have 2 reviews which have no votes on them from that week, and the rest have EU and U ratings, which is inline with the rest of my reviews. I have been working on making my reviews better as I have been figuring out more about the things that should be in them, but during RAW I did have a couple of reviews which I did that I forgot to include some of the details which I had recently come to realize my reviews were lacking. Old habits dye hard type thing.
06/25/2013
Woman China Woman China
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Originally posted by Edeneve Edeneveef
since I didn't get a chance to read all of Fred's 6/19 post by the time I found it, what happens if someone doesn't complete the form?
I am in this boat too. My new home doesn't have internet yet, and I just discovered that China does not support googledoc's which the form is on. So I do need an answer to this question.
06/25/2013
Ansley Ansley
If you don't complete the form then nothing changes; everything will simply remain as it is now.

WC - I'll see what we can do about getting you a copy of it.
06/25/2013
eri86 eri86
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Originally posted by Ansley
Review Amnesty Week...
I submitted the form. I'm really hoping that I'll at least get to keep my RAW points. Ending up at zero would be sad
06/26/2013
HannahPanda HannahPanda
I like change #1 the most out of everything.. The site seems a little more barren now, but I think the staff's done a pretty good job of cleaning up.
06/26/2013
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by HannahPanda
I like change #1 the most out of everything.. The site seems a little more barren now, but I think the staff's done a pretty good job of cleaning up.
Thank you.
06/26/2013
thegogofiasco thegogofiasco
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Originally posted by sexyscreenname
So after reading these posts by Fred:

"I’ve seen a lot of constructive ideas so far.
Here are a few challenges you might help me with.

1. Reviews
Main problems:

1.1. Low Quality.
A well written, informative review ... More
Yes, all good suggestions.
06/26/2013
Rossie Rossie
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Originally posted by Ansley
If you don't complete the form then nothing changes; everything will simply remain as it is now.

WC - I'll see what we can do about getting you a copy of it.
I'm really confused. Does that mean we do not need to submit that Point Reconsideration Request, since nothing changes and will remain as it is now, and the points/gift cards we accumulated before June 19th 2013 will remain in our accounts?
06/28/2013
TJax TJax
Seems like you got something good there.
06/29/2013
No-nita No-nita
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Originally posted by Rossie
I'm really confused. Does that mean we do not need to submit that Point Reconsideration Request, since nothing changes and will remain as it is now, and the points/gift cards we accumulated before June 19th 2013 will remain in our accounts?
She means that if you don't complete the form, then your points, specifically, will function under the new system. If you submit a reconsideration form, you stand a chance of being allowed to use your pre-6/19 points all at once.
06/29/2013
Pete's Princess Pete's Princess
EF is a business and should only give points that help them directly increase sales.

There should be points for good reviews only. Reviews are what makes EF a great site to purchase from. That is the main reason why I stayed with the site. I learned so much about the products from the reviews. Giving points for rating reviews should continue. The comments however are not really useful in making a choice to purchase the product. So there should not be points for comments on reviews.

To get points for a review a person should have a certain number of reviews rated as extremely helpful or have been through the mentor program to be eligible. That way they have to prove themselves and show some commitment to the site before EF gives them points.

I like your suggestions. Since EF has laid off most of the staff the suggestion that a paid editor oversee the reviews is good but seems unrealistic. If it was presented as part of the job when editors were chosen, I think editors would not have a problem refusing reviews that look fake or are crappy. There are a bunch of fake and/or crappy reviews out there right now, but that is more the fault of the sudden increase in points and no oversight of the process. It is my understanding that editors simply correct grammatical errors. I know there are fake reviews. I have asked specific questions about the products of the reviewer when I saw a potentially fake review. Not once did I get a single response to those questions. So I can only assume that the person who wrote the review does not have the product or is not invested enough in the EF community to respond.

Removing the EF Games section is not something I agree with. Some people just like to participate in little mindless games like the next word that comes to mind, etc. I do not believe there should be any points for forum posts, especially games. The forum is in line with FB or other social networking sites. It is a nice added extra but points seems unnecessary. Perhaps giving points for forum posts during the trial period to get people to try the forum but after that the points should stop. I do not post here or vote in the forums because of the points. If you are spending time in the forums, you are not shopping therefore not spending money.
06/29/2013
No-nita No-nita
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Originally posted by Pete's Princess
EF is a business and should only give points that help them directly increase sales.

There should be points for good reviews only. Reviews are what makes EF a great site to purchase from. That is the main reason why I stayed with the site. ... More
Not challenging you on the fact that the review you saw was probably fake, but when it comes to people not replying to comments/questions, it's not that the person isn't "invested" or proof of a fraudulent review or something like that. Some people don't have email notifications turned on, or aren't aware that you have to enable those at all.

Months went by before I was aware that any of my reviews were commented on because once I saw them published, I just assumed I'd get e-mails when people commented, and because I never did... I just figured nobody felt like commenting, lol. Then I did enable those notifications, and they started to go to my spam folder... There are numerous reasons a person might not follow up on comments on their reviews.

Apart from that one nitpick, I agree with your post.
07/01/2013
evie.amor evie.amor
I don't agree with locking the option to review a product that has been reviewed numerous times. Maybe it's just me but before I buy a product I read EVERY review, even if there are 70! I want to be sure I have every opinion and angle I can get on that product before I spend my money on it.

I agree that reviews need to be proofed for usefulness and credibility. I haven't written a lot of reviews because I like to have a couple months of using a product before I write a review and when I do review I spend hours writing it in order to make sure it's informative and helpful.

I think reviews should be valued and judged on quality not on contributor rank or review count. Having a select group of reviewers does not generate well rounded, diversely opinionated product reviews.

In conclusion, the reviews are one of the major reasons that this site shines above others in my opinion.
07/05/2013
lana'sart lana'sart
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Originally posted by Lildrummrgurl7
Those are all good suggestions but unfortunately I've heard those suggestions numerous times and nothing has been done.
I agree
07/23/2013
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