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Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Today I figured I would take a some time to read, comment, and vote on as many reviews as I could with the time I had (about an hour and half). I was noticing that some reviews had only 5 or 6 votes. Even more disparaging, I read a magnificent review that only had like 3 votes, the review wasn't only a day or two old either.

Here are two examples, and these reviews are from a top 15 reviewer!
"A little bit of trouble by Alan & Michele"

[ http://www.edenfantasys.com/sex-toy-reviews/male-sextoys/her-touch-will-leave-you-shaking | "Her Touch Will Leave You Shaking" by Alan & Michele

We take our time to write reviews and we seem to have a small group of people who goes out of their way to read and comment.

I understand that it is a busy time of the season, but some of the older reviews still only get a few votes.

I understand that some reviewers such as myself are in fact new, and people like me do not have a large following.

Maybe it is because the amount of reviews submitted daily. I was just going to ask if anyone had any suggestions, then we can discuss them.

Its tough, Could we make commenting and voting more valuable to members?

Will that just lead to people not reading the review but spamming generic comments and votes?

Can we make a Random review suggestion on every page? Or will that make for extra clutter?

You see I do not have very many suggestions, but I see a problem (for lack of a better word), but I am trying to think of ways for improvement.

Do you see this as a problem? Do you have any suggestions?

Thank you for your time,
Viktor
12/30/2009
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Quote:
Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Today I figured I would take a some time to read, comment, and vote on as many reviews as I could with the time I had (about an hour and half). I was noticing that some reviews had only 5 or 6 votes. Even more disparaging, I read a magnificent ...
I would love to see more people voting and commenting on reviews.

Just an F.Y.I. to anyone who is not aware, voting and commenting on reviews and answering questions others ask on your reviews make up 2% each of your Contributor ranking. The number of comments, number of votes and average usefulness rating also contribute very heavily to Contributor ranking. So get in there and start talking toys, man! It benefits everyone and it's good karma.
12/30/2009
Sammi Sammi
Part of what happens as well, I believe, is that when there is a large number of reviews coming in daily, and you only log in once a day or miss a day, there are reviews you don't see either on the community page or on the reviews page because they have "rolled off". The only way to my knowledge to catch those is to pull up the RSS feed, or click on specific reviewers to see what they've done recently.

And good karma is good
12/30/2009
Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
I was thinking, you could make a section in the forum for advertisements of sort, where a reviewer could make a thread and let people know. This has its disadvantages, one being that their might be too many "advertisement" threads and might drowned out the others.

You would also have to deal with multiple "advertisement" threads from on individual, unless you make a rule where you must use a single thread you already made for your reviews, for example:
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You make a thread called:

"Viktor's Review Update"

First post:
Hey this is Viktor, check out my review:

Second Post:
I have a new Review up, please check it out.

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That is just one idea, with some flaws. I didn't want to advertise my reviews through this thread so I didn't add any to that example
12/30/2009
Sir Sir
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Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
I was thinking, you could make a section in the forum for advertisements of sort, where a reviewer could make a thread and let people know. This has its disadvantages, one being that their might be too many "advertisement" threads and ...
I'm not sure if that is necessary, considering the fact that the Community Corner is easily found. Edenfantasys might want to send out a newsletter though to all of the reviewers saying, "remember this, remember that," every so often, with updates on navigation of the site and things like that.

In the future, however, we are going to have some great updates, which should take care of this.

At the same time, if people do not want to vote/commented, they're not obligated. But I believe that most people in the community are definitely involved this way. I myself have certain days where I'll just sit down and read and vote/comment reviews, when I have some free time.
12/30/2009
Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
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Originally posted by Sir
I'm not sure if that is necessary, considering the fact that the Community Corner is easily found. Edenfantasys might want to send out a newsletter though to all of the reviewers saying, "remember this, remember that," every so often, ...
They might not be obligated but there is a good portion that would like to raise that number (you know the one), and that is a good way.

I think it shows good manners. If you want someone to sit down and read your review and vote or comment on your review, well then you should also read and comment. Just my personal thoughts. I am not saying you have to go out of your way every single day and read,vote and comment on every single product. I am just saying if you happen to have spare time then maybe you can read, vote and comment.
12/31/2009
Sir Sir
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Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
They might not be obligated but there is a good portion that would like to raise that number (you know the one), and that is a good way.

I think it shows good manners. If you want someone to sit down and read your review and vote or comment ...
Ahh, I know what you mean! The ranking, yes. Voting and commenting is certainly something that is a great thing, and by my response I wasn't trying to say that it was bad (it's highly recommended, in fact, not just for the rank, but for the reviewers themselves).

I agree with the courtesy thing, but honestly, we cannot force it on people. What I was saying was unnecessary was the forums for every reviewer. There are too many reviewers for that, and it would be a mass of threads being posted on daily! I agree that it's good for spare time. It's a bit hard to keep up with, actually, with the forums, with the reviews, with writing your own reviews. But hey, it's a great community overall! I think that, as a whole, the Edenfantasys community has become excellent in terms of this.

Since you are fairly new (do not take me saying this negatively), I will say that it was a bit different a year ago, and for people here longer than me, it was different then too! Edenfantasys has grown a lot as a community, and has gotten much better about commenting, reviewing, and voting.
12/31/2009
Kayla Kayla
Personally, I've been making it a habit to get in and sort through all of the reviews that were posted. I don't think I've missed more than ten since I turned Advanced a couple months ago (I don't comment on condom reviews because I have no idea what's useful on those or not. Plus, the boyfriend and I don't use condoms because we have other birth control, so it's just not useful for me to read.) It's definitely really time consuming to try and keep up with some of them.

I've also seen that it's usually the more popular of the reviewers that get the comments. I'd love to see some of the lower-end reviewers posting comments. However, not all people are really that dedicated to the sex toy blogosphere.

I think having it be part of the contributor rating does effect people doing it. It's one of the main reasons that I do it. However, I don't see an advertising forum being very useful. I think it will just be more of a black spot on the forum than anything else. I know I post my links to reviews on my blog, and I really do consider that my advertisement. I think what's sitting on the contributor page does help.
12/31/2009
Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
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Originally posted by Sir
Ahh, I know what you mean! The ranking, yes. Voting and commenting is certainly something that is a great thing, and by my response I wasn't trying to say that it was bad (it's highly recommended, in fact, not just for the rank, but for the ...
I aggree Sir, and sorry if my last post made me sound like a dick.

You are totaly right about that.

Ofcourse I did not take your comment negatively You made some nice points, I am glad you are discussing this topic with us
12/31/2009
Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
I think you have to remember that many people are still in holiday season full of drama, socializing, hangovers, travel and plans of all sorts. It doesn't surprise me that some of the recent reviews may only have a few comments or votes. Unfortunately, if they're not read right away, many of them are lost in the abyss. There are many things which are more important than EF (even though this is a major part of my online life).

As to your suggestion for forum updates? Sorry that's just incredibly unrealistic. There are hundreds of reviews posted every week and that would just fill the forum with useless posts. PLUS, you can already keep track of your favourite reviewers by their profiles or set alerts to be notified of their new reviews.

However, I'd like to see an actual page (not just RSS) where more reviews are displayed and a link on the community homepage to the RSS.
12/31/2009
Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
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Originally posted by Kayla
Personally, I've been making it a habit to get in and sort through all of the reviews that were posted. I don't think I've missed more than ten since I turned Advanced a couple months ago (I don't comment on condom reviews because I ...
Mistress Kay, I want to stress to you, that I do not take your comments lightly! You have helped me so much with all your comments. So far most of everyone's comments have helped me become better, and for that I am grateful

Everything you do by commenting is very much appreciated, I have saw your comments on others reviews, and they are always nice and helpful I best stop, it is starting to sound like I am sucking up to you Mistress
12/31/2009
Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
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Originally posted by Adriana Ravenlust
I think you have to remember that many people are still in holiday season full of drama, socializing, hangovers, travel and plans of all sorts. It doesn't surprise me that some of the recent reviews may only have a few comments or votes. ...
You are correct about the holidays and I made reference about that in my original post, I understand completely, and it would be very crazy (for lack of a better word) of me to expect people to just drop the holidays to read and comment

My suggest are unrealistic yes, I am just trying to brainstorm, throw out idea (good or bad) and maybe someone will help it. Someone may modify the original idea and come up with something better
12/31/2009
Juliettia Juliettia
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Originally posted by Adriana Ravenlust
I think you have to remember that many people are still in holiday season full of drama, socializing, hangovers, travel and plans of all sorts. It doesn't surprise me that some of the recent reviews may only have a few comments or votes. ...
I wish there was a thumbs up button.
12/31/2009
Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
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Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
You are correct about the holidays and I made reference about that in my original post, I understand completely, and it would be very crazy (for lack of a better word) of me to expect people to just drop the holidays to read and comment

My ...
I don't see this as a huge problem. Reviews are ultimately more important than comments or votes but you can always suggest your favourite reviews for the contests on the forums which definitely gets them more clicks.
12/31/2009
Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
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Originally posted by Adriana Ravenlust
I don't see this as a huge problem. Reviews are ultimately more important than comments or votes but you can always suggest your favourite reviews for the contests on the forums which definitely gets them more clicks.
Its not really, I suppose.

I am wanting to become better with my writing, and I do appreciate all the comments I get. I like the feedback I get. Its more of a personal thing I suppose

I guess I should just be happy with what I got

You are correct, Adriana Thanks for your input
12/31/2009
Red Red
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Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Today I figured I would take a some time to read, comment, and vote on as many reviews as I could with the time I had (about an hour and half). I was noticing that some reviews had only 5 or 6 votes. Even more disparaging, I read a magnificent ...
Yeah its true, it sucks when your review doesn't seem to get much attention. But you know what? It's not isolated to holidays time. I have been reviewing for years and have had a number of reviews from various points in time over those years that only got like 4 votes in the month or two after they were published, and/or no comments. You can't win them all. Often, it seems like its the product that brings people to the review.

This is why I like the new follow feature (which I haven't yet utilized) because it lets you use your contributor page to click onto your favorite reviewers and see any reviews you may have missed when you weren't looking.

Furthermore, the review roundup, the review rumble, and the review spotlights do highlight reviews from new reviewers as well as more established ones. It's not perfect, but it helps highlight great reviews from folks that are new or whatever.
12/31/2009
Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
I'm totally flattered that you used our reviews as an example (wait 'til I tell Alan... he'll flip!). Thank you for that

Like others have said, it's not that uncommon to only get a handful of comments and/or votes on your reviews no matter how good nor bad they are so it's no big deal. I think it's just a time factor for a lot of voters, Alan & I included. We weren't here for several days, and with as fast as the new reviews cycle through the system I'd wager that we missed voting on a lot of them. You also have to consider that many folks only look at the reviews for products that they're interested in, which makes sense.
We've always figured that if a review was truly helpful to even one person though, we've done our job and are happy.
12/31/2009
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