#EdenUpdate - Expectations of Conduct

Gary Gary
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Originally posted by P'Gell
There have been and are at the moment several people on Eden who have more than one account with the ONLY purpose being to vote on their own reviews and to down vote other people. That is what I was talking about.
I know Stormy already addressed this, but I would like to add something. Yes, if you are suspicious of abusive behavior and want to report it, (obviously you wont have hard evidence) but at least be able to explain to us why this is suspicious. The more information we have, the easier it is for us to investigate.

As far as your claim about people having extra accounts to vote on their reviews, I am sure you are right. Because people only notice the out of place negative activities of multiple accounts, it is a lot harder to detect these. However, once we begin to investigate these situation, it will become very obvious to use what is going on.
04/05/2012
Gary Gary
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
I'm one of those people--if I think it was a good review; that's all I'm going to say.

I'm not going to leave a long, flowery comment unless something sticks out and tugs at me. A good review is a good review, and not every ... More
Commenting on reviews is actually a little tricky. If it was written well, and you do not have any questions about the product, what else do you say? It would be great if every review could spark a great discussion, but honestly, the two reviews that are most likely to have longer comments are: a review on a hot new product, or a bad review. In both cases there is a lot to say, or ask.
04/05/2012
sktb0007 sktb0007
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Originally posted by ScottA
There can be legitimate reasons for multiple accounts on the same IP - spouses, roommates, etc may all want their own account rather than sharing.

"Spam" comment - I usually try to combine ideas in a single post, but sometimes ... More
On another forum I'm on, you're able to quote multiple posts to a thread in one comment. It's really convenient because then you can reply to numerous people/comments without having to post a zillion times. It'd be really nice if we could do that here as well. Basically there was a little button at the bottom of each post (where the flag button is located right now) and it says "quote". I don't know how easy it is to implement that but it would be a nice addition.
04/05/2012
sktb0007 sktb0007
Quote:
Originally posted by Gary
Commenting on reviews is actually a little tricky. If it was written well, and you do not have any questions about the product, what else do you say? It would be great if every review could spark a great discussion, but honestly, the two reviews that ... More
I agree. I see a lot more lengthy comments on reviews that lack pertinent information.
04/05/2012
Over here Over here
I think the fact that there are so many responses speaks to the fact that these stanards are necessary. Too bad we didn't learn these back in kindergarten where we probably all taught the basics of human interaction. Thanks for the reminders--much of it carries over into everyday life.
04/06/2012
Dangerous Lilly Dangerous Lilly
Apologies if this has been asked/answered already, I just don't have the ability right now to read through all 6 pages of posts here.

I'm supremely glad to see the Points Farming aspect. Truly, little else has annoyed me so very greatly than the conduct that has been occurring because of the Points. The useless profile comments (I get one daily it seems, whereas I used to get one monthly), the useless forum posts and of course review comments.

My question is: How do we report it? I know that this community is huge and I can't expect that there are enough mods to catch every PF activity.
04/06/2012
InNeedOfABuzzzz InNeedOfABuzzzz
So very happy to see this laid out for everyone! I really hope it sticks into the minds of our sweet Edenites!
04/06/2012
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Dangerous Lilly
Apologies if this has been asked/answered already, I just don't have the ability right now to read through all 6 pages of posts here.

I'm supremely glad to see the Points Farming aspect. Truly, little else has annoyed me so very ... More
Please report anything you see to this account: Forum Moderator or send an email to moderator@edenfantasys .com and we will look into the activity.
04/06/2012
Peaches2000 Peaches2000
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Originally posted by Gary
Everyone please, chime in with your thoughts and opinions. All the sections were posted individually to make it easier for you to all comment on specific areas. (None of the changes will count towards past actions.)

This is the first step in a ... More
As a new person joining the forums/site, this information was super helpful. I think it creates a safe means of communication and expression for everyone while clerly outlining rules and expectations. Great work!
04/07/2012
Kirsten A Kirsten A
I'm pretty new to EF but have experience in other online communities. I really appreciate the work you guys are putting into this to improve EF. I think you guys have great ideas for dealing with problems, and I like that you give users the benefit of the doubt. I played an online game several years ago that did not have that philosophy, and would not give a warning before banning you. Their support team was totally non-responsive if you tried to state your case. Eventually I stopped playing because of these issues.

The one thing that drives me nuts reading this thread is, IP addresses are not the end-all solution to tracking multiple accounts! I won't go into further detail lest I help anyone commit any misdeeds.
04/08/2012
Dangerous Lilly Dangerous Lilly
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Originally posted by Ansley
Please report anything you see to this account: Forum Moderator or send an email to moderator@edenfantasys .com and we will look into the activity.
To clarify:

1. There is an option on flagging to choose "violates EOC". Would you prefer we not use this when reporting points-farming?

2. I really hate the "Thanks!" on reviews and "Following!" on walls. It is, to me, point-farming. Does admin see it the same way I do? Or would it be a nuisance to report those and get *me* suspended?
04/09/2012
Forum Moderator Forum Moderator
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Originally posted by Dangerous Lilly
To clarify:

1. There is an option on flagging to choose "violates EOC". Would you prefer we not use this when reporting points-farming?

2. I really hate the "Thanks!" on reviews and "Following!" on walls. ... More
1. We'd rather people not flag for point farming, because it can be harder to pick out than a person thinks. If someone is obviously farming points and you really want something to be done about it, send the email or send the on-site message.

2. Because so many people are doing it, long term site contributors and new members, it's not really seen as point farming.

If a comment of "following!" is left on someone's wall and flagged as point farming or "good review" on their review, it probably won't be followed up on passed a cursory check in. Now, if they leave a comment like "Nice review!" on a forum thread about a SexIs article, that's point farming.

Hope that helps!
04/09/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Gary
I know Stormy already addressed this, but I would like to add something. Yes, if you are suspicious of abusive behavior and want to report it, (obviously you wont have hard evidence) but at least be able to explain to us why this is suspicious. The ... More
It has been reported. The first time was months ago, the person I reported it to is no longer an Eden employee and I was basically told, "I see nothing proven, there's nothing we can do."

I spoke with a different Admin recently and he is looking into it. I hope he's able to do something.

I mean, when one identity's ONLY activity on the site is voting for ONLY one other identity and the names are similar (and months ago, when I first reported it, the two identities did have the same email addy and there were more identities at that point) it's pretty obvious what is going on.
04/09/2012
bh253 bh253
Thanks! Good expectations.
04/22/2012
Willow Wand Willow Wand
Honestly, it is kind of sad that as adults, this is all not common knowledge enough and that this needs to be warranted. With that being said, I think it is fantastic!
04/22/2012
Stinkytofu10 Stinkytofu10
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Originally posted by Forum Moderator
EdenFantasys strives to maintain a sex-positive community that welcomes all genders, races, religions, creeds, etc. - EVERYONE. These expectations are for every person who participates anywhere on the EdenFantasys website. The Expectation of Conduct ... More
Hoorah, huzzah!
04/25/2012
Teacookie Teacookie
ended up here while readding an older thread =) grats on the improvements.
04/26/2012
Kayla&JJ ♥ Kayla&JJ ♥
I really love these changes! I'm glad to see the community growing and changing like this.
06/01/2012
g- g-
You guys are awesome!! Thanks so much!!
07/06/2012
freshbananas freshbananas
Thank you for posting this : ) It looks like good and fair rules to follow
07/06/2012
indiechick indiechick
Thank you for posting this. because while I am all for a heated debate I have been slandered and/or harassed know that others have been as well thank you to eden for trying to make this as safe of a community as possible. It is appreciated.
07/08/2012
indiechick indiechick
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Originally posted by Kindred
Playing devil's advocate, but when I've pointed out similar patterns before, I was informed that there was nothing that could be done without definitive proof. My situation was where I found a reviewer that I felt did not write very good ... More
I think its unfortunate that people do this. It isn't fair to the rest of us. At the same time I am not on here enough to know if people are voting for their own.. I will admit I do not always agree when something is listed as extremely useful. I just don't have the time to cross reference.
07/08/2012
Sangsara Sangsara
Just curious - I have a couple of friends that want to support me in my reviewing learning process and log on to Eden just to read my reviews. I doubt that he reads other reviews at least when it comes to female toy reviews because it's my writing, not the content ( although they are sex toy consumers and have ordered from Eden) that interests them. Is this wrong?
07/10/2012
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Sangsara
Just curious - I have a couple of friends that want to support me in my reviewing learning process and log on to Eden just to read my reviews. I doubt that he reads other reviews at least when it comes to female toy reviews because it's my ... More
Not at all. As long as they aren't downvoting anyone else or causing any other sort of issue, it's fine.
07/10/2012
jfuz jfuz
YAY~
07/22/2012
chikisses chikisses
I hope it works out well.
08/30/2012
AHubbyof2SexualMinds AHubbyof2SexualMinds
This is one of the reasons I'm such a fan of EF, they've been proactive in making the community such a great place to be a part of. I think everyone needs to read this thread at some point.
09/01/2012
hem hem
This site is so great!
09/23/2012
Rita Spratlen Rita Spratlen
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Originally posted by Forum Moderator
Point Farming:

Activities just to earn EdenPoints, that have no value to the community, are considered “Point Farming”. The following examples of point farming are not exclusive; the Forum Moderator can determine when other activities could ... More
I am glad there is rules to commenting. It is always nice to know these things before commenting. Thanks for the detailed explanations.
09/27/2012
dindagail dindagail
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Originally posted by Gary
Everyone please, chime in with your thoughts and opinions. All the sections were posted individually to make it easier for you to all comment on specific areas. (None of the changes will count towards past actions.)

This is the first step in a ... More
Just dropping in to say that I am Loving EF. The only thing its a bit frustrating on getting to the forums. Other wise everything else has been a Pleasure!!
Thank You for a Wonderful site!!
09/29/2012
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