ADVANCED poll, and question...pushing envelope even for this site, I think. Not sure which category to post in even..Oral? Anal?....

I would (and do) rim my boyfriend. However, in that case my tongue only goes in a MAXIMUM of one inch, at his most relaxed. Very easy to keep that much of your insides clean. How penis, however, is 6-7 inches long, which means that it could meet with anything my fingers can't reach to clean out pre-sex, and we can't afford an enema kit or anything like that. So... No, thank you. less

Interesting, since I have read a couple interviews with porn stars who said they do a number of things prior to anal movies, such as limit what they eat, use immodium to decrease chance of intestinal stimulation and do multiple enemas "till they run clean".

One European "movie house" that does a lot of anal, has their cast actually live in the same apartment for the week of shooting, and are all on a strict liquid, low residue diet and they shower/wash each other. There is a lot of ATM and even more "intense" anal stuff in their movies, so I guess they are trying to "bond" and build "trust" in their actors and actresses.

They had a whole "real time interview" on one of their movies about this. The "behind the scenes" thing. Was fascinating. less

Okay, even among the amazingly open, free thinking, intelligent and well read, thoughtful members of this "community", I think this is a discussion that pushes the envelope where
I bet a number of folks lose their comfort level. Our intent is NOT to insult or make anyone uncomfortable with this topic, so accept our apology if this seems a bit over the top, but this is a
serious discussion question.

Let me start by saying we have two other couples, all long time married, monogamous and happy as far as we can tell. We all speak VERY openly and honest about everything, including sex. This
topic came up, of all things, over a great Pot Luck BBQ last weekend. Now I have to ask the larger EdenFantasy community their opinion on the subject.

Let's start with some facts. All of our six "friends" watch porn with their spouse. Two of our couples do regularly as part of their "background" when having relations. We ALL have noticed that
the new "push the envelope" activity making it's way more mainstream is "ATM" (ass to mouth, for those to whom I have to spell it out...sorry). Usually penis, toy or occasionally a finger. This even
showed up in one of the "female made and directed" girl solo masturbation DVD's recently. More over, one of our group said they listened to some "College Sex Advice" show on radio and one caller...a girl, talked about
ATM as the new "dirty girl dare, bar setting activity" at SPRING BREAK!!!! That is now the "how dirty do you want to go" activity. The only rival, according to the caller...no kidding..was "double anal" and apparently
it is now the college "thing to TRY", again on a dare, for college girls!!! If true, my how things change in just a few years...when drinking a shot from a belly button, and flashing a tit was the big DARE item!

Of our three couples, we all went "EEEWWWW"..."we could NEVER go THERE". However, the more we talked, we wondered....."WHY could we never go there"?
The fact is, all three of our couples engage in analingus (rimming) with their partners. All three couples have done 69 with kissing, licking and tongue probing of their partners anus, and all agree they
enjoy giving and receiving this activity. None has ever had any "yukky" accidents. All make sure they wash first and no one in our group has ever used an enema for this (or anal sex in general).

For two couples in our group it is occasional, for one couple it is a very regular part of oral sex and almost weekly.

One woman in our group does use "cherry flavored and scented gel lube" prior to such activity, but that is about it.

SO...we got to wondering...SINCE we all "go to the point of probing our partners tushies with our tongues, what is the huge leap, we ALL cannot take to any ATM activity"???? Intellectually, it seems
very MINOR a jump. However, emotionally, and mentally, it seems like a universe of difference...and that is with THREE very "open with their partners" couples.

Anyone else find themselves in this same quandary?

I know this is a STRANGE question..even here at the Forum, but all six of us are really curious if anyone else has thought about this one...and how they do or don't feel or act on the idea.

SO...if you are an advanced love maker, please offer your input. THANKS for being such great sports about all this. less

I'm not sure how I feel about rimming or ATM mostly due to bacteria. Although I am now an education major, my boyfriend and I were both medical majors our first two years of college and the amount of bacteria in the GI tract which does not need to be ingested is just a little too overwhelming for me. Yes, I have fantasised about this in a slightly kink way, but no ATM is not something I'm really willing to venture into. less