The Nastiest thing you NEVER say in porn...but want to. Pegging edition.

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The Nastiest thing you NEVER say in porn...but want to. Pegging edition.

Bignuf Bignuf
Our "Friday" free speaking dinner group met last night, and after an hour of talking politics, we finally got off that blood pressure raising topic and got around to our favorite...sex. Now, we had a good size group this time (varies from 2 to 14 couples), and last night we had seven couples. We got to talking about things we see in Porn (we all watch it as couples) and things we have "never seen" but would find "really sexy..a turn on". Conversation got REALLY explicit and pretty wild, I must admit.

When all was said and done, we had "consensus" on a few "topics"...anal, oral, regular sex, group sex...etc, but I will save SOME for other topic postings in days to come. For right now, let's stick to one of the ANAL/pegging ideas we had.

I sure hope someone who is into making adult porn will be reading this...since we had all seven men and four of the seven woman who said they had "never seen this in any adult DVD, but thought it would be "sexy".

There are LOTS of porn movies now, where a guy is getting "pegged" by a woman, but in EVERY case we have seen, including the now "somewhat famous" "Bend Over Boyfriend" series, that may have started it all, the guys always seem "subservient" and the activity seems like "domination". It may be for SOME couples, but for those in our group who DO peg, and from the ideas I see here on EF Forum, many STRAIGHT, NON SUB males enjoy it. In short, they do NOT "act like they are being "feminized", they are NOT into "sucking the toy penis" while the woman is wearing it. They ARE into creative anal with their woman and enjoying the feeling of penetration and anal/prostate stimulation...while staying completely HETERO.

Why is THAT never shown in a video. IN fact, while "pegging" their guys, the woman in our group tend to "hand job" them off, or finish them off orally. Either way, it is hetero play, all the way. Why is THAT never seen in these videos??

In short, we want to see masculine men, and their female lovers, enjoying hetero sex, with pegging as PART of that.

SO.....anyone else think this idea is one YOU would want to see in some adult movie??? Voting is private, so be honest.
Answers (private voting - your screen name will NOT appear in the results):
Yes...I want to see PEGGING for REAL guys. (Hold the "suck on this rubber cock", please. No way!
35
Nope, if pegging is going on, then it needs to be the woman "in charge" and doing what she wants with her "tool".
3
Not into pegging, either way.
9
Even if I'm okay with pegging, how the man/woman act don't matter.
6
Other?
3
Total votes: 56 (52 voters)
Poll is closed
09/19/2011
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Antipova Antipova
I'm equally happy if not more happy if the receiver's not subservient, but it's only a mild preference, so I voted for both.
09/19/2011
AndroAngel AndroAngel
I like were you're going with this, but it isn't the "Suck the dildo" that gets me, it's the domination aspect. I'd definitely love to see pegging porn where it's clear the two are equal and the man is as much a participant as the woman. Maybe even some male-dom pegging porn with the man demanding his sub "give it to him good" for his pleasure.
09/19/2011
Redboxbaby Redboxbaby
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Originally posted by AndroAngel
I like were you're going with this, but it isn't the "Suck the dildo" that gets me, it's the domination aspect. I'd definitely love to see pegging porn where it's clear the two are equal and the man is as much a ...
This!

I agree totally.
09/19/2011
Owl Identified Owl Identified
Well, I have some questions for you regarding the flipside to this coin, which I think may provide some insight. Why is it so rare that a male penetrating a woman is not conflated with her subservience and his dominance or conquest in porn? Why is it that when a woman engages in penetrative intercourse - regardless of how active she is in the sex - is she a passive receiver (being "fucked" and not "fucking")? Why is the act of fellating a penis inherently submissive? Why is a man less "masculine" as you say, for enjoying playing a submissive role? Why are the "REAL men", as you say, those that do not enjoy submission? Why can't my partner suck my silicone cock and play a submissive role without having his identity as a man called into question? Why can't we have an equal relationship if he enjoys sucking my cock? Does that mean that I am not his equal if I suck his cock?

I think the trap many of us fall into is the conflation of penetration with submission, and then submission with femininity, and then femininity with weakness. Should we expect the porn industry to do anything but give the population what it wants to see? Isn't that the business they are in? Shouldn't we expect to see fetishes that buy into these pervasive tropes of gender and power? Aren't these fetishes the big money makers for pornographers and, in turn, doesn't the porn industry have the most to gain from producing this kind of porn? Even though your original post speaks out against the fetishization of these tropes, it ultimately perpetuates those tropes, and in turn perpetuates this kind of porn's popularity in a distant, indirect sense.

Furthermore, to those in this thread that suggest that men are not "equal" in the scene because they are playing into a submissive role, I think this is unfair to many submissives in this community - male, female and otherwise. Consensual dominance/submission can manifest is so many ways, but ultimately, it is always rooted in permission and choice on both ends. A submissive party plays into this role because they enjoy it; they are not less equal because they enjoy submission. Their will and agency is just as real and valuable as the dominant party. The submissive still must give the dominant permission to do what they do. That? Is equality as far as I can tell.
09/19/2011
Owl Identified Owl Identified
Quote:
Originally posted by AndroAngel
I like were you're going with this, but it isn't the "Suck the dildo" that gets me, it's the domination aspect. I'd definitely love to see pegging porn where it's clear the two are equal and the man is as much a ...
I love pegging porn where the male is a submissive recipient, but I would also like to see porn like this, too. I agree; it would be great to see more diversity in this kind of porn.
09/19/2011
AndroAngel AndroAngel
Quote:
Originally posted by Owl Identified
Well, I have some questions for you regarding the flipside to this coin, which I think may provide some insight. Why is it so rare that a male penetrating a woman is not conflated with her subservience and his dominance or conquest in porn? Why is it ...
I'm a switch, when I refer to "equal" I tend to be referring to sex where no power exchange is going on, but you make a good point. Could you suggest a better word than equal? (I didn't think "Vanilla" quite fit the context.)
09/20/2011
emiliaa emiliaa
Not into pegging, BUT I can definitely see where you're coming from Break those pesky stereotypes!
09/20/2011
Owl Identified Owl Identified
Quote:
Originally posted by AndroAngel
I'm a switch, when I refer to "equal" I tend to be referring to sex where no power exchange is going on, but you make a good point. Could you suggest a better word than equal? (I didn't think "Vanilla" quite fit the context.)
Ah, understood. I rescind that part of my post, in that case. I think in the case you describe it might be easiest just to say "without power exchange" or "without pronounced power dynamics" or something. In any case, I get what you're saying now and I thank you for the clarification.
09/20/2011
AndroAngel AndroAngel
Quote:
Originally posted by Owl Identified
Ah, understood. I rescind that part of my post, in that case. I think in the case you describe it might be easiest just to say "without power exchange" or "without pronounced power dynamics" or something. In any case, I get what ...
Ya, I probably should have been a little more clear in my original post. I tend to get into the habit of using certain vocabulary with a certain group of people, and sometimes clarity is lost outside of that group. In the future I'll clarify that I'm referring to sex not involving power exchange or power dynamic, because language is extremely powerful, even on a subconscious level.
09/20/2011
married with children married with children
That must be one interesting conversation your waitress is hearing at dinner! Hope you tip her well.
09/21/2011
KittenPrincess KittenPrincess
Absolutely agreed with the original post!

In fact, I was ranting about this a day ago with my BF. I love love the idea of pegging, and wish so badly that I could find some decent quality pegging porn that didn't get wrapped up in the stereotypes that people tend to associate with pegging. Like the OP said, there are plenty of hetero men who just enjoy anal stimulation from their female partners... so where the heck is the porn that represents this?

You'd think that with the internet being so full of porn and sexual expression, that this wouldn't be so hard to find. It blows my mind, really.
09/22/2011
Silverdrop Silverdrop
How about some maledom / femsub pegging, along the lines of 'You're going to fuck my ass, slut, because that's what I want, and it's your job to service me! I'm gonna ride your silicone cock all night long!' That could be fun, if well done.
09/22/2011
Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by married with children
That must be one interesting conversation your waitress is hearing at dinner! Hope you tip her well.
Oh my no.... ..at dinner we are all proper ladies and gentlemen. We are in VERY public restaurants of all kinds. Our discussions stay to POLITICS, MONEY, WORK...etc. NEVER anything too controversial or that we would not want our grandmas or children to hear. THAT comes later, as we retire to one of our homes...different every week, for deserts WE all make and share (yummy). THAT is where we have our "into the wee hours of the morning talks". We have, on occasion, screened adult movies (although we have watched tear jerker love stories too...with great popcorn), or have had POOL parties, if the host has a pool (once a skinny dip party, for a few couples who were warned in advance that is what was going on...most of us did not choose to participate in that one). But mostly, we eat cake, pie, cookies...etc, drink great coffee or wine, and TALK, TALK, TALK till our eyes grow tired and our tongues grow numb. We straggle home and get a great night sleep...content little puppies, all.

I should add that every few weeks we end up at the same dining establishments. They are HAPPY to see a party of ten or twelve couples and believe me, we tip VERY well. The waitresses know us by name and often argue as to WHO will get our table. They make more on us in two hours then they do all night working twenty other tables. Again, we tip VERY well...and even fill out those GREAT SERVICE comment cards or tell the managers when service was superb. Very few customers approach a manager to offer COMPLIMENTS. Try it sometime when you get great service. It floors them.
09/28/2011
Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by KittenPrincess
Absolutely agreed with the original post!

In fact, I was ranting about this a day ago with my BF. I love love the idea of pegging, and wish so badly that I could find some decent quality pegging porn that didn't get wrapped up in the ...
WELL SAID!!!!! THANK YOU.
09/28/2011
Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by Redboxbaby
This!

I agree totally.
Well said. I am looking for some EQUALS playing this way. Not part of any dominance play.
09/30/2011
Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by Bignuf
WELL SAID!!!!! THANK YOU.
We've been looking for years now. Internet IS full of porn and NO, we cannot find anything like this. Plain old HETERO SEX, no dominance/degradation stuff, where pegging is enjoyed. Same with oral/anal...really. Not much where it is shown as just a hetero act between two loving partners, and forget ATM, which always seems to be associated with dominance, even though we know TWO real world couples that ENJOY this as part of a loving hetero monogamous relationship (we don't indulge in that sport, but they swear it is "nasty and sexy)". A treat for every desire, I guess. Whatever floats your boat!!!
09/30/2011
ScottA ScottA
Part of the problem is the very nature of porn. To illustrate I'll stick to one specific part: visuals.

Porn is visual. They show sexual organs and orifices explicitly. Think about some of your most romantic sexual encounters. There was probably a lot of contact and closeness. Can't do that in porn - it gets in the way of the camera. The best porn positions would be those that have open views, which means that the partners are at a distance. It's hard to work "tenderness" into that setup.
11/16/2011
Bignuf Bignuf
Still looking for that PEGGING PORN with totally masculine guys and totally feminine woman.
01/13/2012
Hallmar82 Hallmar82
It does seem counter-intuitive not to delve into a demographic where there's room to make money.
01/13/2012
Daemonin Daemonin
Well, if it's not being found anywhere someone better jump on it! I'm not completely into it, but I do agree it should be made more frequently known. I think it would help eliminate the thought that it can't be masculine.
01/13/2012
SiNn SiNn
Quote:
Originally posted by Bignuf
Our "Friday" free speaking dinner group met last night, and after an hour of talking politics, we finally got off that blood pressure raising topic and got around to our favorite...sex. Now, we had a good size group this time (varies from 2 ...
honestly the whole idea of a man that is subserviant really is a turn off for sure when pegging even in porn
02/28/2012
spineyogurt spineyogurt
I really dont want to be pegged
02/28/2012
Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by spineyogurt
I really dont want to be pegged
When we here that, we always wonder if they have experienced direct prostate stimulation. My hubby always thought it was too "feminizing" an activity...till I started giving him amazing "O"'s with my finger. Then the idea of pegging as a SOLIDLY "female pleasuring her man" activity suddenly caught on. Ha, Ha.
02/28/2012
Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by married with children
That must be one interesting conversation your waitress is hearing at dinner! Hope you tip her well.
Came back to revisit this comment. We always keep our "adult" conversations limited to "desert and coffee" time back at one house or another. Well, we had a LOT of couples (17) last week...so 34 people...at Olive Garden, of all places. LOUD, even in their side alcove. We were at one end of the table and the discussion was pure politics and health care. We had no idea (and could not really hear) ANYTHING going on at the far other end of the table. Well, apparently they DID get a "bit" racy, since when the waitress brought our check, she asked "um...I kind of know you from coming in here a lot...so I feel comfortable asking you this. Are you guys like all swinging later? Is this like some dinner break in a real orgy"? I about fell off my chair, since we are always VERY proper in public. The couple sitting next to us are the "HOSTS" and arrangers of the get together every week, and THEY were perturbed enough to go to the other end of the table and ask them "nicely" to WATCH the conversation in public!!! OUCH.

Anyway, in YEARS of this Friday Dinner Club/Group, this is the ONLY time I know of that something....I am still not sure WHAT...got "said" open enough for a waitress to hear or comment about!!!!!! All I do know is that we ALL tip VERY, VERY well, so they are always excited to ask us to PLEASE come back and make a point to wait on us again, when we do!!!!
02/28/2012
MeliPixie MeliPixie
Boyfriend and I peg about once a week. He is a submissive, MY submissive, but pegging isn't always about me dominating him (though sometimes it is ). Often, he just wants something in his butt, and I want to give him what he loves! We both get an immense amount of pleasure from it. I'd love to see more porn like that, a guy taking it in the butt because he likes it, not because he's "been a bad boy" or something cliche like that. Sorry, but we don't make porn, or I would SO supply. You don't want to see me naked anyway
02/29/2012
SaraU29 SaraU29
NO pegging for me, thanks!
02/29/2012
richsam richsam
Quote:
Originally posted by Bignuf
Our "Friday" free speaking dinner group met last night, and after an hour of talking politics, we finally got off that blood pressure raising topic and got around to our favorite...sex. Now, we had a good size group this time (varies from 2 ...
Not into pegging, either way.
03/01/2012
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