Do you think those who practice celibacy shouldn't use toys?

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Do you think those who practice celibacy shouldn't use toys?

PurpleBerry PurpleBerry
Just wondering if people consider self-love as sex.
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Yes, I feel like the person is still celibate.
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60  (77%)
No, the person is definitely not celibate.
Sir , EndlessFrost
2  (3%)
I'm not sure.
Miss Cinnamon , SydVicious , Coralbell , Sammi , butterflygirlxo , Eeyor89 , petite-n-sweet , Viktor Vysheslav Malkin , softkkisses , Alegria , Tart , Alura Une , SexyStuff , CharmCity
14  (18%)
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Avant-garde , Gunsmoke
2  (3%)
Total votes: 78
Poll is closed
09/07/2010
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~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
Your question doesn't match your answers. this might confuse people. Anyways, I think self love still makes the person celibate.
09/07/2010
PurpleBerry PurpleBerry
I apologize for the answers not matching. I just wanted to keep it simple. Sorry
09/07/2010
Chilipepper Chilipepper
So, the idea is 'if you call yourself celibate, then you shouldn't be doing anything sexual at all'.

Eh, it just depends on who you ask and where they're coming from in their definition of 'celibacy'. I had a marriage that was hellishly celibate - slept in the same bed, cuddled, and all for ten years, but nothing sexual beyond a tit-squeeze. I would have killed him early in our marriage if I wasn't allowed to do my solo thing.

Celibacy, I think as a rule, is defined as not having sexual activity with another person.
09/07/2010
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
I agree with Chilipepper, celibacy is not having sexual relations.
09/07/2010
Miss Cinnamon Miss Cinnamon
I have to say--I'm not sure. I think the true definition of celibacy matters less than how the individual in question defines their own sexuality and sexual choices. If a person has decided to lead a "celibate" lifestyle, but still considers it acceptable to use sex toys, then they should be able to do that. That's how I think of it, anyway. My brain is really tired and I'm not sure if what I said even made sense.
09/07/2010
Not here Not here
While everyone has their own definition of celibacy, I consider it to be sexual relations with someone other than oneself. <-- (that was weird to type, doesn't seem right, lol)

Monks are celibate. Does that mean they don't masturbate? I don't know, honestly. I'd have to ask a monk.
09/07/2010
Avant-garde Avant-garde
I think its up to the individual to decide whether they are still celibate.
09/07/2010
P'Gell P'Gell
Quote:
Originally posted by Not here
While everyone has their own definition of celibacy, I consider it to be sexual relations with someone other than oneself. <-- (that was weird to type, doesn't seem right, lol)

Monks are celibate. Does that mean they don't ...
If they are Catholic monks or even Buddhist they are not supposed to engage in "Self Abuse" (I am sure the Buddhists refer to it as something else) and all forms of masturbation are included.

I don't know if monks and priests really abstain from masturbation, but in Catholic School they made us think they did.
09/07/2010
Liz Liz
From my point of view, celibacy refers to refraining from sexual activity with another person. At least, that's how I've always thought of it. It's an interesting question though!
09/07/2010
SydVicious SydVicious
From wikipedia the definition of 'Celibacy is defined as the lifestyle of someone who is voluntarily abstaining from all sexual activities.' From that definition I would say toys should not be allowed. But on the other hand, I don't want anyone to miss out.
09/07/2010
LicentiouslyYours LicentiouslyYours
I agree with several others.

By my definition, one is celibate even if they are using toys or self-pleasuring.

That said... what it means for someone else depends entirely on their reason for celibacy in the first place. Are they only resisting relations with others or are they seeking to escape the distraction of any sexual pleasure?

Each of these reasons for celibacy kind of deserves it's own answer to the question above.
09/08/2010
Jenn (aka kissmykitty) Jenn (aka kissmykitty)
By the "clinical" definition, celibacy means withholding from *all* sexual activities, whether they be with another person or on your own. Going by that definition, using toys kind of defeats the purpose of being celibate, since you're indulging in a sexual activity.

By my standards and today's society, being celibate seems to be more about abstaining from sexual activities with other people. By *this* definition, self-love is acceptable.
09/08/2010
Alicia Alicia
I think that in general people are still celibate if they enjoy self love. But in the religious aspects of it I think those that are celibate are supposed to obstain from not only physical sex but also from the thoughts of it. (I think....could be wrong)
09/08/2010
Kindred Kindred
Personally, I go with the more modern definition in that celibacy is abstaining from sexual relations with another. Regardless, I think it's up to the individual person to make that decision and choice of what the word means to them.
09/08/2010
Not here Not here
Quote:
Originally posted by P'Gell
If they are Catholic monks or even Buddhist they are not supposed to engage in "Self Abuse" (I am sure the Buddhists refer to it as something else) and all forms of masturbation are included.

I don't know if monks and priests ...
Yeah, that's what I thought. Of course, there's always the exceptions to the rule, so even though they aren't supposed to, I'm sure some do masturbate. I won't even get into the ones that engage in sexual acts with others.
09/08/2010
SexyySarah SexyySarah
I think so, why not right?
09/18/2010
Chilipepper Chilipepper
Thinking on it ...

If I didn't get to use toys or whatnot, I'd be a worse bitch than I already am. So it really becomes how much the human race wants to live.
09/18/2010
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Quote:
Originally posted by PurpleBerry
Just wondering if people consider self-love as sex.
It depends on the vow, if it is a vow. Celibacy is supposed to be not having sexual contact with another person. Religious celibacy usually gets into sexual thoughts and purity of intentions as well. Since masturbation is usually accompanied by sexual thoughts then it's frowned upon.

Still I think one can be celibate and use toys, they aren't another person afterall.
09/18/2010
kinky girlfriend kinky girlfriend
Quote:
Originally posted by Chilipepper
So, the idea is 'if you call yourself celibate, then you shouldn't be doing anything sexual at all'.

Eh, it just depends on who you ask and where they're coming from in their definition of 'celibacy'. I had a marriage ...
why wouldnt your husband have sex? its ok if u don't want to answere but wow thats weird to me.
09/18/2010
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Quote:
Originally posted by Not here
While everyone has their own definition of celibacy, I consider it to be sexual relations with someone other than oneself. <-- (that was weird to type, doesn't seem right, lol)

Monks are celibate. Does that mean they don't ...
Generally if you ask a monk if he masturbates he will either smile and change the topic or tell you to mind your own business. Having known and asked a few monks about it they say in general that it's frowned upon but not exactly considered a sin. Excessive masturbation can lead to improper thoughts is the explanation I got.

Now for priests it is slightly different with more focus on the impure thoughts aspect. It is seen as taking your thoughts off of what God wants for you and focusing it on the material world. Some orders of monks also follow this philosophy.
09/18/2010
mrs.mckrakn mrs.mckrakn
self please all you want. nothing wrong with it and i still concider it celibacy. as long as its just you..
09/18/2010
Sir Sir
I am the odd man out.

I find it narcissistic and quite aggravating to say to a partner or significant other "I will not have sex with you, but I'll masturbate all day and night."

If the person's single and celibate, then no, using toys does not make them not celibate. I only find that it is when the person who is "celibate" is in a relationship with another.
09/20/2010
P'Gell P'Gell
Quote:
Originally posted by Not here
Yeah, that's what I thought. Of course, there's always the exceptions to the rule, so even though they aren't supposed to, I'm sure some do masturbate. I won't even get into the ones that engage in sexual acts with others.
Oh, I'm sure they do masturbate. I can't imagine many people going without any sexual release. But, at least in the Catholic Church, masturbation is not "allowed" to be performed by celibate priests, or by anyone, for that matter. It's considered an "abomination." Which, IMO, is ridiculous.

It's not my place to say what people "should" do. But, the definition of Celibacy by choice (at least in religious ways) is to have no sexual release whatsoever. I've heard of Catholic boys having to report nocturnal emissions (wet dreams) in Confession. As a Sin.

It's fucked up. Really.
09/20/2010
Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Quote:
Originally posted by PurpleBerry
Just wondering if people consider self-love as sex.
I am not sure, I guess its in the eye of the beholder or the individual.
09/20/2010
mllebeauty mllebeauty
In my mind, celibacy relates to sexual contact with others, but I agree with Viktor. It really comes down to the celibate person's definition. I'm not celibate, so who am I to say!
09/20/2010
Envy Envy
I see celibacy as abstaining (through voluntary or involuntary) from sex. I do not see it as abstaining from masturbation, too. But it does depend on what the person themselves think.
09/20/2010
softkkisses softkkisses
I agree with Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
09/20/2010
Shellz31 Shellz31
Everyone needs some kind of sexual stimulation and release!
09/30/2010
Trashley Trashley
Quote:
Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
Your question doesn't match your answers. this might confuse people. Anyways, I think self love still makes the person celibate.
GONNA SAY THAT. I get uppity about grammar and syntax and logic when it gets past 12:00. I need to take care of that. But I think self love is fine if you're "celibate." I mean, I wouldn't say I lost my virginity to a dildo if I used toys back then. I suppose it all depends on your reasons for celibacy, too.. The nuns would definitely say that it's still wrong and breaking celibacy, but if a little monster going by Lady GaGa's word, I'm pretty sure you'd be fine.
10/05/2010
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