S and M views.

Wide Awake Daydream Wide Awake Daydream
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Originally posted by Mistress M.
So, my professor today decided to tell the class that if a person is into S and M they automatically want to go out, rape/murder/beat nearly to death women and men. Not only that, sadism and sexual sadism is back in the books again as being a ... More
I think if that were true, there would be a lot more dead people, and a lot more people who died happy. That's absurd, it would be like saying, all people who judge things they don't understand are smart. The two have nothing to do with each other.
02/15/2012
Lover of Leather Lover of Leather
What an idiot. Just one more example of why people always need to question those in positions of authority. I teach my kids to question everything, do extra research when needed, and always think for yourself.
03/03/2012
Teacookie Teacookie
Mentally ill is when ever you have an extreme behavior, habbit, and or triggers. Therefore bipolar people are crazy as well (me). Now the question seems to be implying negative crazy. So long as you harm none do as you will. That being said, true sadist, yup totally crazy.
03/03/2012
Lady Bear Lady Bear
They are okay to me!
03/07/2012
unfulfilled unfulfilled
Did you fail the exam? I think it's greatly misunderstood.
03/08/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
The correllation could be turned around to say that those prone to violent acts and murder are drawn to view S&M pornography. It could also be true that violent people are drawn to violent acts...and that people prone to violent acts deny ... More
That's absolutely right, Airen.

Also, I prefer, myself, not to use the words "sadist" or "masochist" in my own play. My Man and I have a somewhat D/s relationship, and he is the Alpha, Dom etc. However, he is not a sadist, although we play hard and engage in some play that some other people (if they were to see it) might think are intended to cause.... pain? I see it more as "Intense Sensation" because when we're playing no "real" pain is really felt, it's all translated to intense sensation and arousal.

My Man is NOT violent and is a nice guy. He has never committed a crime (OK, we had sex when he was a grown man and I was under 18, but aside from that....) and I would not call him a sadist. A Dom, yes, but not someone who has the desire to watch people suffer in any way.

I also was not aware that the diagnosis as "sadist" was in the new DSM (Diagnostics and Statistical Manual, the book mental health processional use to diagnose and class certain conditions) Serial killers may be classed as "Sadistic killers" but that is NOT the same as BDSM consensual play!

I think like most people who don't understand anything but Missionary position PIV as the only "sex" acceptable, consent has everything to do with many things. Whip somebody when she asks you to do so, have a Safe Word, and know when to stop; Consensual BDSM. Whip somebody you kidnapped out of the University parking lot, hold her against her will and have no way for her to communicate HER needs to stop with you: Crazy Sadistic Criminal.

Context is everything, and your ENGLISH professor evidently knows nothing about context and CONSENT in the world of Hard Play.
03/08/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by rvnhawk
Ugh, even though it's in the DSM again, (the diagnostic book used in psychology and psychiatry), the diagnosis is given when, for sadism, the person has acted on these urges with a nonconsenting person, or the sexual urges or fantasies cause ... More
You've hit the nail on the head! Consent is the key.

The problem with overly "Vanilla" people (or those who are "closet kinky" and feel guilty about it and then try to make up for it by pointing fingers at those who guiltlessly engage in the same kind of play, but with full consent) is that they don't understand the differences between consensual and non-consensual acts.

It's the same reason so many nutwings are "against" GLBT people, they don't understand CONSENT!
03/08/2012
freda freda
Quote:
Originally posted by Mistress M.
So, my professor today decided to tell the class that if a person is into S and M they automatically want to go out, rape/murder/beat nearly to death women and men. Not only that, sadism and sexual sadism is back in the books again as being a ... More
Sadism and Masochism is greatly misunderstood
03/08/2012
Anastasia Beaverhousen Anastasia Beaverhousen
People who are into BDSM are not necessarily bad people. They're just people with a fetish.
03/13/2012
plaidvulva plaidvulva
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Originally posted by Mistress M.
As an update one of our exam questions was to "talk about the evils revealed in Douglas's work about slavery" which was what our professor was discussing when he went on his rant about sexual sadism.. I'm pretty sure that I'm ... More
I would love to know what became of this.

Also, voted misunderstood and etc.
03/14/2012
Voir Voir
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Originally posted by Emma (Girl With Fire)
Nope, it takes a combination of a lot of things to make a person willing to kill, and a whole other combination to make them a sadistic multiple murderer.

Generalizing based on one factor or another, doesn't get anybody anywhere. Although ... More
Being a sociopath does not predispose to murder, Sociopaths are marked by their inability to empathize with the feelings and emotions of others. They tend to be habitual liars and do things that benefit themselves without thought of the consequences to others. They are not necessarily violent, just extremely selfish and their brain doesn't tell them "hey this should feel wrong, you should be guilty etc etc etc". Generally, Sociopathy would have to be in conjunction with extreme violent tendencies or another mental disorder for them to murder. You'd probably be surprised how many average every-day people are sociopaths because they can put on an act to fit those around them without actually feeling anything they pretend to. They also make medication for them that can help or w/e but idk how useful that is.

Anywho, I don't practice S&M nor do I know much about it buttt I definitely agree it's very misunderstood. Living in the Southern USA, it's even more overblown here; well any form of sexual taboo is really because everyone is so conservative but BDSM/S&M etc are probably veryvery high on the list of "OMG YOU ARE INSANE WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU" reactions =_=
03/22/2012
dks210 dks210
Consent is key. Your professor seems ignorant of the meaning and implications of that word.
03/25/2012
anonkitty anonkitty
Your professor can do with an intro course in statistics: "correlation does not imply causation."
04/04/2012
queergaze queergaze
With any sex act, the difference between a healthy experience and something unacceptable is CONSENT. If your thing is non-consensual sadism, your issue is the non-consent, not the sadism.
04/08/2012
Clubbinseals Clubbinseals
misunderstood
04/16/2012
BlooJay BlooJay
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Originally posted by Emma (Girl With Fire)
You should ask him if he listens to country music, as far as statistics go, those who listen to country music have the highest likelihood of committing violent crimes that are not gang related. Also ask him if the fact that he is a man predisposes ... More
Good points!!
04/22/2012
31 Flavors 31 Flavors
Ignorance is no excuse for such views.
04/22/2012
Djiffy Djiffy
Wow, what in the world? You can talk to your professor's division head and bring this up as discriminatory behavior. Professors are supposed to be impartial, especially regarding things not on the curriculum. Who knows how many students were offended!
04/22/2012
VelvetDragon VelvetDragon
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Originally posted by PussyGalore
What an ignorant human being (and probably a closet masochist). No, it does mean you're crazy. And people don't kill people because they're crazy, either. That's another topic in and of itself, though.
This is exactly what I wanted to say, on both counts.
04/22/2012
Entropy Entropy
You are a patriot, Merridia, for standing up to your tyrant professor like that. Of course this is ridiculous. I'm a masochist. What the hell would I do without a sadist? Beat myself to a pulp? Nah, that wouldn't do it for me. This sounds like a WASP male who fears the changing tide...the tide of reason, logic, and tolerance. His kind are dying off, and in their fear of losing control they gasp and flail.
04/22/2012
Llahsram Llahsram
I've heard professors say plenty of stupid things.
04/24/2012
PropertyOfPotter PropertyOfPotter
I'm not into it, but I don't think it makes you mentally ill or that you're going to kill someone for being into it.
04/25/2012
garylangworthy420 garylangworthy420
give that man a raise.
05/01/2012
badk1tty badk1tty
Quote:
Originally posted by Mistress M.
So, my professor today decided to tell the class that if a person is into S and M they automatically want to go out, rape/murder/beat nearly to death women and men. Not only that, sadism and sexual sadism is back in the books again as being a ... More
I think S&M is greatly misunderstood. Did you say anything to them?
05/01/2012
StarFire StarFire
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Originally posted by Mistress M.
It was in my Early American Literature class. What the hell that had to do -anything- with American Literature, I don't know... But he goes off on random tangents.
wow what a ignorant person it just go to show anyone can teach even if they shouldn't
05/01/2012
Dixiemomma Dixiemomma
Quote:
Originally posted by Mistress M.
So, my professor today decided to tell the class that if a person is into S and M they automatically want to go out, rape/murder/beat nearly to death women and men. Not only that, sadism and sexual sadism is back in the books again as being a ... More
my bf and i are into S&M and we are far from crazy lol there are many different levels of sadomasochism we're on the lighter end but there are those that get into extremes... as long as both parties are in it willingly i see no problems with it at all
05/01/2012
Chami Chami
stereotype from hell....what an ass
05/01/2012
Allison.Wilder Allison.Wilder
Eh. Stereotypes.
05/20/2012
tiggle biddies tiggle biddies
Quote:
Originally posted by Mistress M.
So, my professor today decided to tell the class that if a person is into S and M they automatically want to go out, rape/murder/beat nearly to death women and men. Not only that, sadism and sexual sadism is back in the books again as being a ... More
that's just being ill informed
05/22/2012
breebree breebree
i think you might be taking it the wrong way
05/26/2012
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