What are your thoughts on pheromones?

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What are your thoughts on pheromones?

NuMe NuMe
I recently wrote an article on pheromones for Sexis Magazine. I had an experience that made me think that maybe there really is something to this. So I did some research and much of what I found is in the article.

What do you think?
08/19/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by NuMe
I recently wrote an article on pheromones for Sexis Magazine. I had an experience that made me think that maybe there really is something to this. So I did some research and much of what I found is in the article.

What do you think?
Good article, NuMe. Thank you.

I don't much about bottled pheromones, but I know scent and most likely natural pheromones play a role in human sexuality.

Women who live together, either in a family, a dorm hall or a commune all tend to menstruate at the same time. This is believed to be due to undetectable scents and pheromones that the "Alpha Woman" produces, and all other woman fall into line with her cycle.

I know it works in bed. Whether the scent is detectable or not. As we get older, I've found my drive is becoming slightly higher than My Man's. Not much, but I do tend to want sex in the evening more often than he does. I have a habit, when I want to have sex, and My Man has been grumbling about being "tired" or some other excuse, of slipping into bed before him, taking a quick swipe between my legs, and gently sliding my fingers across his pillow. I do this when I am clean and there is no detectable scent, yet usually, within minutes of lying down, he leans over and is read to make love.

BTW, he doesn't know I do this.

On days when he's complaining and I DON'T do this, he usually goes right to sleep. (He tends to prefer morning sex.)

I have no other explaination.
08/19/2010
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
I think that there is a lot to them, we have had times after work when the wife gives me that look and tells me "lets go". (I worked in a steel fabrication shop... you get the idea) Before sex sometimes I will give a quick spray of (yup) Axe and this drives her nut's.

The trick is finding what works for you or your partner.

Great article.
08/19/2010
kck kck
Awesome article

I definitely think pheromones affect attraction. But I only really believe in getting the full effects when they are naturally produced by the body. I don't think "bottled" pheromones work.
08/19/2010
Chilipepper Chilipepper
Lovely writing, NuMe. ^_^

The closest my ex-husband ever came to actually almost having sex with me was RIGHT on the day I was ovulating - with him whining that I smelled 'soooo fucking great'. Not a drop of perfume or deodorant on me, either, and I wasn't on any medications.

Yeah. If they can strike through to Mr. No-Libido-with-Asthma- Problems, then there's something behind them.
08/19/2010
Sammi Sammi
Great article!

I still haven't quite made up my mind, but I lean towards that there is something to it.
08/19/2010
jvkohl jvkohl
Thanks for taking the time to learn about the topic and for asking the right questions. The article is great, and I'm happy to see that you accurately conveyed my input. I recommend you as a science journalist. Keep up the good work!

Those who are still unsure whether there are human pheromones should think about how their food preferences develop. They're based on the chemical appeal of the food, not the way it looks--at least until after we have made the connection in our brain that links how the food looks and how it smells.

After that, a picture of food can stimulate the appetite, but not before. This type of conditioned response to odors paired with visual stimuli also occurs with pheromones, and the conditioning to food odors and to pheromones begins at birth--long before we become aware of what we prefer to see, touch/feel, or hear (just as it does in all animals).

By the time we consciously acknowledge the physical features that we prefer, pheromones have repeatedly elicited their unconscious affect on our behavior.

Simply put, there's only one animal model for the development of food preferences and mate preferences, and odors and pheromones play the primary role via our sense of smell--whether or not we're aware of how it happens. Food odors and pheromones effect hormones, and hormones affect behavior.
08/19/2010
NuMe NuMe
Thank you everyone! And a special thank you to Mr Kohl for helping me to understand more about pheromones. And for that wonderful compliment on my article.

It really is a fascinating topic!
08/19/2010
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Quote:
Originally posted by NuMe
I recently wrote an article on pheromones for Sexis Magazine. I had an experience that made me think that maybe there really is something to this. So I did some research and much of what I found is in the article.

What do you think?
I figure that if you can smell them and they turn you on...then GO with it!
08/19/2010
NuMe NuMe
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
I figure that if you can smell them and they turn you on...then GO with it!
That's the funny thing. You can't always smell them, but you still detect and respond to them.
08/19/2010
Not here Not here
As far as bottled pheromones go, I haven't been convinced yet, though I'm curious to experiment with different options. But real, natural pheromones? I absolutely believe in their power, especially the ones in sweat. There is something about smelling that hint (or maybe a little more than a hint) of salty, musky sweat on my man that drives me nuts. I don't particularly like the smell, but it activates my horny button. And I know the same rings true with him, particularly with the sweat on my feet.. (he's got a massive foot fetish, if you don't already know) if he gets a whiff, it can totally put him in the mood. But I think it depends on how receptive you are at the time, and how much sweat is involved. I know if either of us is too sweaty, there is nothing sexy about it.

I'm curious as to which massage oil you used? I tried Good Clean Love and wasn't impressed.
08/20/2010
NuMe NuMe
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Originally posted by Not here
As far as bottled pheromones go, I haven't been convinced yet, though I'm curious to experiment with different options. But real, natural pheromones? I absolutely believe in their power, especially the ones in sweat. There is something about ...
It's the Sensuous massage oil. Here's the product and my review of it. link

Though this product doesn't specifically say what pheromones are in it. But I have been using it quite often and love it!
08/20/2010
jvkohl jvkohl
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Originally posted by Not here
As far as bottled pheromones go, I haven't been convinced yet, though I'm curious to experiment with different options. But real, natural pheromones? I absolutely believe in their power, especially the ones in sweat. There is something about ...
As indicated in the article, only the bottled combination of androstenol with androsterone has been shown to affect behavior -- and our reported but unpublished findings have not yet been independently replicated. Also, it takes only a slight change in the androstenol/androstero ne ratio to bring the active ingredients of the mixture to a perceptible and aversive level -- even when masked by a pleasant odor. So, as you say, it's the hint of natural odor that's pleasant.

All odors become unpleasant when concentrations get too high -- even the scent of a rose. Also, you hit on the fact that your response depends on how receptive you are to begin with, and your receptivity to musky, male, scents is largely determined by changes in hormones across the menstrual cycle. Most women are most receptive in the middle of their cycle (their ovulatory phase, when they are not on hormonal birth control).
08/20/2010
deltalima deltalima
I think scientifically there is relevancy. But as far as these bottled pheromones being what we naturally give off, I'm not sure. It never hurts in my opinion.
08/20/2010
Kindred Kindred
Very nice article!
08/20/2010
Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
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Originally posted by NuMe
It's the Sensuous massage oil. Here's the product and my review of it. link

Though this product doesn't specifically say what pheromones are in it. But I have been using it quite often and love it! ...
I'm with you on this one. I love the scent of this oil but the response I have to it goes way beyond the scent. I react much more strongly than I do to any other scent I like. The only answer is the pheromones.

They have NO effect on the man, though. None.
08/20/2010
NuMe NuMe
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
I'm with you on this one. I love the scent of this oil but the response I have to it goes way beyond the scent. I react much more strongly than I do to any other scent I like. The only answer is the pheromones.

They have NO effect on the ...
I think you're right. The pheromones in this do seem to affect me much more than hubby.
08/20/2010
jvkohl jvkohl
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Originally posted by deltalima
I think scientifically there is relevancy. But as far as these bottled pheromones being what we naturally give off, I'm not sure. It never hurts in my opinion.
Here's a source for the relevancy of androsterone. It's primate specific and the "doping" studies now indicate that levels/ratios are individual human specific.

link

I wrote about this in the paper NuMe cited in her article. In the same database, you can check the relevancy of androstenol. I'm hoping that more people will become familiar with the science behind human pheromone-enhanced product development, so that fewer people will fall prey to the ridiculous marketing claims.
08/20/2010
tiname25 tiname25
nice
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