People say they want binders on here but others say its not considered a "Sexual" product. I beg to differ.
Binders for trans
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All of the products I have added are all used for FTMs to feel more comfortable about themselves. Or for a couple wanting to try something new or spice up their sex life. So why is it that you believe that these are "sex" toys but a binder (which is used just like a packer would be) not considered one? I just dont understand why people keep saying its not considered a sex toy because you can use it as one as Ive proven time and time again. What do you think? Explain why. I have more post about this. Read them all. You will understand better.
01/12/2012
In the recent thread about adding binders, most people felt it would be a good idea - and when people said "they're not a sex toy", they usually kept going to mentioned packers and such and explained how despite not being a "sex toy", they would still fit in.
I wouldn't call a binder a sex toy just like I wouldn't call a pair of Doc Martens a sex toy. Can you use them to create a sexy aesthetic if that's what you like ? Sure. But they're not "sex toys".
I wouldn't call a binder a sex toy just like I wouldn't call a pair of Doc Martens a sex toy. Can you use them to create a sexy aesthetic if that's what you like ? Sure. But they're not "sex toys".
01/12/2012
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I dont agree
Originally posted by
Maxx
All of the products I have added are all used for FTMs to feel more comfortable about themselves. Or for a couple wanting to try something new or spice up their sex life. So why is it that you believe that these are "sex" toys but a binder
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All of the products I have added are all used for FTMs to feel more comfortable about themselves. Or for a couple wanting to try something new or spice up their sex life. So why is it that you believe that these are "sex" toys but a binder (which is used just like a packer would be) not considered one? I just dont understand why people keep saying its not considered a sex toy because you can use it as one as Ive proven time and time again. What do you think? Explain why. I have more post about this. Read them all. You will understand better.
01/12/2012
I don't remember anyone in the other thread disagreeing with binders being carried on Eden. They don't have to be classifiable as sex toys for them to be relevant to this community. Lingerie is one of the main draws EF has for some people (where else can you find in depth reviews of lingerie before you buy it online?) and it's in the same category. Binders are arguably more useful. It seems like plenty of people would be happy to see them here.
01/12/2012
I'd love to see binders here, since I am genderfluid and would like something to be able to flatten my (rather large) breasts more effectively than what my Underworks binder can do.
While I don't agree that it is a "sex toy" or necessarily falls under sexuality, I *do* agree that feeling more comfortable with gender presentation can lend to being more free to enjoy one's self in sexual encounters.
While I don't agree that it is a "sex toy" or necessarily falls under sexuality, I *do* agree that feeling more comfortable with gender presentation can lend to being more free to enjoy one's self in sexual encounters.
01/13/2012
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I'm not sure there's a better brand than Underworks out there. May I ask which model you're using ? The Tri-Top is pretty much the strongest and most effective one on the market, especially for larger chests. I've seen it bind DD, I've seen it bind H. The other companies out there just do not perform to that level.
Originally posted by
Alatariel Surion
I'd love to see binders here, since I am genderfluid and would like something to be able to flatten my (rather large) breasts more effectively than what my Underworks binder can do.
While I don't agree that it is a "sex toy" ...
While I don't agree that it is a "sex toy" ...
I'd love to see binders here, since I am genderfluid and would like something to be able to flatten my (rather large) breasts more effectively than what my Underworks binder can do.
While I don't agree that it is a "sex toy" or necessarily falls under sexuality, I *do* agree that feeling more comfortable with gender presentation can lend to being more free to enjoy one's self in sexual encounters.
While I don't agree that it is a "sex toy" or necessarily falls under sexuality, I *do* agree that feeling more comfortable with gender presentation can lend to being more free to enjoy one's self in sexual encounters.
Their sizing system is hard for many to decode, though. :/ And a lot of people end up with the wrong size, especially since it has FTM in its own section, not on the main pages.
So unless Eden developed their own binders, I don't think there are necessarily more effective ones out there, though some of the weaker ones are more attractive to look at.
01/13/2012
I find EF to be a very trans-friendly place, but for some reason their lack of stock of MTF items and binders continues. This could be a concern for money spent/recouped, or they could be having a hard time coming to the right negotiations with vendors. I don't know, I don't work here, I just work here! (I just run a club, and am on the Social Media team... I don't actually work here)
I would recommend just contacting customer service and asking about it. They're usually pretty helpful and considerate.
But while they're not toys in the strictest of terms, I think that binders definitely have a place in the Gender Play section in EF's store.
I would recommend just contacting customer service and asking about it. They're usually pretty helpful and considerate.
But while they're not toys in the strictest of terms, I think that binders definitely have a place in the Gender Play section in EF's store.
01/13/2012
Yes, EF should carry binders. Considering they're already carrying packers, packing straps, and harnesses this wouldn't be a huge leap for their product choices and would expand their customer base. In the same light I also feel that they should be carrying feminist and trans* pornography as well.
01/16/2012
With the packers, packing straps, softees and other things that EF carries, binders would definitely have a place here. I don't think of them as sex toys, necessarily, but EF carries plenty of things that aren't specifically sex toys. Lingerie, candles, massage products, bath products, and other things.
02/13/2012
I definitely believe EF should carry binders if they choose to carry things like bras, panties, underwear, and lingerie, because to an FtM, a binder IS underwear. This isn't a 100% sex TOY store, it's a sex store, including accessories, bath stuff, lingerie/underwear, things that are RELATED to sex. They also carry soft packers and harnesses, I don't see why they'd carry packers but refuse to carry binders, I think they just need a large enough demand to carry them.
02/13/2012
Even though these are not sex toys, they are Sexual products, and as such edenfantasys SHOULD carry them. After all, they carry ice cube trays shaped like penises, and those aren't sex toys either so it would be rediculous to exclude binders, which at the very least would be worn by a great many transfolk during sex (I do) just like the thongs etc on here are sometimes worn during sex by some, I see no logical reason this would be excluded
02/14/2012
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Underworks are the leading manufacturer of binders. You probably got too big of a size. You generally need something one size smaller than what you think you'll need. They also stretch out with time. You should replace your binder after six months of daily wear.
Originally posted by
Alatariel Surion
I'd love to see binders here, since I am genderfluid and would like something to be able to flatten my (rather large) breasts more effectively than what my Underworks binder can do.
While I don't agree that it is a "sex toy" ...
While I don't agree that it is a "sex toy" ...
I'd love to see binders here, since I am genderfluid and would like something to be able to flatten my (rather large) breasts more effectively than what my Underworks binder can do.
While I don't agree that it is a "sex toy" or necessarily falls under sexuality, I *do* agree that feeling more comfortable with gender presentation can lend to being more free to enjoy one's self in sexual encounters.
While I don't agree that it is a "sex toy" or necessarily falls under sexuality, I *do* agree that feeling more comfortable with gender presentation can lend to being more free to enjoy one's self in sexual encounters.
02/15/2012
Aren't binders something you wear? How on earth could that be used as a sex toy? Hmmm.... That's not to say that I would be opposed to EF carrying them. Sure, why not. It seems a lot of people would find them to be a nice thing to have so I don't see why not carry them. I probably wouldn't need one, but others may. However, when I think sex toy, I think dildo, vibrator, anal toy, etc. I think binder would be more close to lingerie or underwear and stuff. Can they really be used AS A SEX TOY? I mean, lingerie is used during sex, but not as a sex aid or device or what not.
02/15/2012
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Well, some trans guys have sex with them on since they are dysphoric about their chests so in a way they can be a sexual aid. Not a toy, but an aid.
Originally posted by
kendra30752
Aren't binders something you wear? How on earth could that be used as a sex toy? Hmmm.... That's not to say that I would be opposed to EF carrying them. Sure, why not. It seems a lot of people would find them to be a nice thing to have so I
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Aren't binders something you wear? How on earth could that be used as a sex toy? Hmmm.... That's not to say that I would be opposed to EF carrying them. Sure, why not. It seems a lot of people would find them to be a nice thing to have so I don't see why not carry them. I probably wouldn't need one, but others may. However, when I think sex toy, I think dildo, vibrator, anal toy, etc. I think binder would be more close to lingerie or underwear and stuff. Can they really be used AS A SEX TOY? I mean, lingerie is used during sex, but not as a sex aid or device or what not.
02/15/2012
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They can be used for gender play which is role playing which is a sexual stimulant.
Originally posted by
kendra30752
Aren't binders something you wear? How on earth could that be used as a sex toy? Hmmm.... That's not to say that I would be opposed to EF carrying them. Sure, why not. It seems a lot of people would find them to be a nice thing to have so I
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Aren't binders something you wear? How on earth could that be used as a sex toy? Hmmm.... That's not to say that I would be opposed to EF carrying them. Sure, why not. It seems a lot of people would find them to be a nice thing to have so I don't see why not carry them. I probably wouldn't need one, but others may. However, when I think sex toy, I think dildo, vibrator, anal toy, etc. I think binder would be more close to lingerie or underwear and stuff. Can they really be used AS A SEX TOY? I mean, lingerie is used during sex, but not as a sex aid or device or what not.
02/15/2012
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It's not a sex "toy" any more than a bra is a sex toy. However I do agree with others in that they are an aid, just as sexy lingerie is.
Originally posted by
kendra30752
Aren't binders something you wear? How on earth could that be used as a sex toy? Hmmm.... That's not to say that I would be opposed to EF carrying them. Sure, why not. It seems a lot of people would find them to be a nice thing to have so I
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Aren't binders something you wear? How on earth could that be used as a sex toy? Hmmm.... That's not to say that I would be opposed to EF carrying them. Sure, why not. It seems a lot of people would find them to be a nice thing to have so I don't see why not carry them. I probably wouldn't need one, but others may. However, when I think sex toy, I think dildo, vibrator, anal toy, etc. I think binder would be more close to lingerie or underwear and stuff. Can they really be used AS A SEX TOY? I mean, lingerie is used during sex, but not as a sex aid or device or what not.
02/15/2012
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I listed other because while I believe mine makes me a lot more confident (which is a very sexual thing), I would have difficulty wearing mine during sex itself (breathing issues).
Originally posted by
Maxx
All of the products I have added are all used for FTMs to feel more comfortable about themselves. Or for a couple wanting to try something new or spice up their sex life. So why is it that you believe that these are "sex" toys but a binder
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All of the products I have added are all used for FTMs to feel more comfortable about themselves. Or for a couple wanting to try something new or spice up their sex life. So why is it that you believe that these are "sex" toys but a binder (which is used just like a packer would be) not considered one? I just dont understand why people keep saying its not considered a sex toy because you can use it as one as Ive proven time and time again. What do you think? Explain why. I have more post about this. Read them all. You will understand better.
However, I think that they're good for 'gender play' and therefore can count as a sex toy.
03/02/2012
I don't really agree that a binder is a "sexual" item (though it can be) but neither is body butter and lip gloss but EF sells those. Just because it's not necessarily "sexual", that doesn't mean it shouldn't be sold here. EF is very friendly to people of all walks of life and since they have packers, they should have binders, too. I know that there would be tons of people in the market for them if they sold them and hopefully, they one day will.
03/02/2012
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i think EF should carry it for sure. and it's no less sexual than the bath/body products, makeup or dresses on here.
Originally posted by
Maxx
All of the products I have added are all used for FTMs to feel more comfortable about themselves. Or for a couple wanting to try something new or spice up their sex life. So why is it that you believe that these are "sex" toys but a binder
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All of the products I have added are all used for FTMs to feel more comfortable about themselves. Or for a couple wanting to try something new or spice up their sex life. So why is it that you believe that these are "sex" toys but a binder (which is used just like a packer would be) not considered one? I just dont understand why people keep saying its not considered a sex toy because you can use it as one as Ive proven time and time again. What do you think? Explain why. I have more post about this. Read them all. You will understand better.
what a silly argument. EF really needs to carry more stuff like this. i've been advocating for it for a while.
03/14/2012
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also, i didnt' vote, because it wasn't clear whether i was voting yes i think it's a sex toy or no i don't think it's a sex toy...
Originally posted by
Maxx
All of the products I have added are all used for FTMs to feel more comfortable about themselves. Or for a couple wanting to try something new or spice up their sex life. So why is it that you believe that these are "sex" toys but a binder
...
All of the products I have added are all used for FTMs to feel more comfortable about themselves. Or for a couple wanting to try something new or spice up their sex life. So why is it that you believe that these are "sex" toys but a binder (which is used just like a packer would be) not considered one? I just dont understand why people keep saying its not considered a sex toy because you can use it as one as Ive proven time and time again. What do you think? Explain why. I have more post about this. Read them all. You will understand better.
or yes i think EF should carry them or no i don't.
03/14/2012
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like the others, while binders and packers may not always be considered sex toys, I definitely think EF should carry them
Originally posted by
Maxx
All of the products I have added are all used for FTMs to feel more comfortable about themselves. Or for a couple wanting to try something new or spice up their sex life. So why is it that you believe that these are "sex" toys but a binder
...
All of the products I have added are all used for FTMs to feel more comfortable about themselves. Or for a couple wanting to try something new or spice up their sex life. So why is it that you believe that these are "sex" toys but a binder (which is used just like a packer would be) not considered one? I just dont understand why people keep saying its not considered a sex toy because you can use it as one as Ive proven time and time again. What do you think? Explain why. I have more post about this. Read them all. You will understand better.
03/15/2012
I mean, I don't think that it necessarily has to be a sex toy to be here. But I think that the fact that they even have a transgender section is AMAZING and a really good niche market, so they could certainly make a lot of money on it. Binders are kind of hard to come by, especially if you're low on cash. They have packers too, so why not?
Also, are there any products for MTFs? I'm not but my cousin is and I know she's always looking for new gadgets. I haven't seen any around somehow.
Also, are there any products for MTFs? I'm not but my cousin is and I know she's always looking for new gadgets. I haven't seen any around somehow.
03/15/2012
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They've already got a gender play category...why not?
Originally posted by
Maxx
All of the products I have added are all used for FTMs to feel more comfortable about themselves. Or for a couple wanting to try something new or spice up their sex life. So why is it that you believe that these are "sex" toys but a binder
...
All of the products I have added are all used for FTMs to feel more comfortable about themselves. Or for a couple wanting to try something new or spice up their sex life. So why is it that you believe that these are "sex" toys but a binder (which is used just like a packer would be) not considered one? I just dont understand why people keep saying its not considered a sex toy because you can use it as one as Ive proven time and time again. What do you think? Explain why. I have more post about this. Read them all. You will understand better.
04/22/2012
I put up a poll asking people if they'd like EF to carry binders and contacted them about it. They said they have carried them in the past but they weren't a big seller. it is something they told me they are going to discuss soon.
If you want EF to carry binders, contact them and let them know! The more people that do the more chance they will start to stock them. Especially if you recommend certain brands. I'd love to be able to get Underworks through EF.
If you want EF to carry binders, contact them and let them know! The more people that do the more chance they will start to stock them. Especially if you recommend certain brands. I'd love to be able to get Underworks through EF.
06/06/2012
They should be considered sex toys and sold on here. In day-to-day life I don't consider either a sex toy because I need them to pass as male not for sex. However, packers and binders can both be used as sex toys. Maybe somebody fantasizes about another person wearing a binder. Then it could be considered a sex toy. Just like packers.
07/10/2012
I think that if they have lingerie on here which makes more feminine identified people feel good about their bodies then packers and binders can do the same thing for more masculine identified people. I know that wearing a binder has made me feel hot, just like wearing sexy underwear has for my partners.
07/11/2012
I'd love for EF to carry binders, etc., as well as some books related to trans* issues that aren't just erotica or whatever. This is a nice, open place, and I'd like for it to be a place where people can easily access information.
Honestly, why the hell not? Y'all carry t-shirts. Why not binders?
Honestly, why the hell not? Y'all carry t-shirts. Why not binders?
07/23/2012
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