Genderqueer vs Genderfluid?

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can anyone help me understand the differences, if any, in these two terms
08/11/2012
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sodapin sodapin
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Originally posted by closed account
can anyone help me understand the differences, if any, in these two terms
I think genderfluid means you can move around within the defined genders available (male, female, both, neither), whereas genderqueer maybe means you don't identify with a gender that's within these categories.

This link of business cards has helped me get a summary on what they all mean because I often get confused myself xD.

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08/11/2012
thisisadeletedaccount thisisadeletedaccount
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Originally posted by sodapin
I think genderfluid means you can move around within the defined genders available (male, female, both, neither), whereas genderqueer maybe means you don't identify with a gender that's within these categories.

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I like your summary - I'm genderqueer, I feel like I have a constant gender but it's not male or female. My gender expression may vary, but my internal relationship with my gender is pretty constant.
08/12/2012
Taylor Taylor
That's really interesting, I didn't really know what either of these terms meant. Glad I was able to learn something.
08/12/2012
closed account closed account
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Originally posted by sodapin
I think genderfluid means you can move around within the defined genders available (male, female, both, neither), whereas genderqueer maybe means you don't identify with a gender that's within these categories.

This link of business ... More
thank u! great link. genderfluid fits me then. male, female, neither, both. much simpler than it sounds. even tho its a completely separate thing from sexuality, my sexual orientation is the same. fluid. moving back and forth along the kinsey scale dependent on where i am in life, and who i'm with.
08/12/2012
Lucifer the Cat Lucifer the Cat
happy to see this thread on here
08/12/2012
sodapin sodapin
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Originally posted by thisisadeletedaccount
I like your summary - I'm genderqueer, I feel like I have a constant gender but it's not male or female. My gender expression may vary, but my internal relationship with my gender is pretty constant.
Glad I got it right xD I was kinda worried.

Also, no problem I'm happy to help! The definitions can get confusing at times and I'd hate for anyone's identity or presentation to be misunderstood. I actually feel like maybe I'm not entirely a male trans male :S if that makes sense so a further understanding of these terms are helpful to me too!
08/12/2012
TheParrishism TheParrishism
To me, genderqueer is more about not feeling male or female. It is the rejecting of those gender roles. Genderfluid is more like movement between male and female. I think it ascribes more closely to the gender ideas, but changes depending on the day.
08/15/2012
Happenstance Happenstance
Genderfluid doesn't have to mean fluidity strictly between male and female. It can mean fluidity between multiple genders-- whatever those genders might be. Genderqueer, to me, means non-binary and implies consistency.

I will also say though, that both are and identity-- not a presentation. Being genderqueer or genderfluid is not about rejecting gender roles, but about identifying as non-binary and/or fluid. Gender roles are not the same as gender.

Example: a woman may shave her head, wear clothing from the "men's" section of a clothing store, and may go into construction work. She is rejecting the traditional, stereotypically feminine, "woman's role." She still thinks of herself as a woman. Therefore, she is a woman. A man may decide to provide primary care for children, wear perfume or nail polish, and watch romance movies. He is rejecting the traditional, stereotypically masculine, "man's role," but he still thinks of himself as a man. He is still a man, because he identifies as a man.

Summary: Genderqueer is a nonbinary gender that may be consistent. Genderfluid is a non-binary gender that includes multiple genders. Gender and gender roles are not the same thing. Gender is determined by identity, not behavior.
08/27/2012
pleasurehunter pleasurehunter
im glad this thread is here theres still som any terms im learning.. i definitely feel i fit into one of these categories, im feeling less and less male but i still feel i identify as more than one sex.
09/01/2012
MJ7 MJ7
i consider myself both
09/09/2012
Non-Binary Unicorn Non-Binary Unicorn
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Originally posted by Happenstance
Genderfluid doesn't have to mean fluidity strictly between male and female. It can mean fluidity between multiple genders-- whatever those genders might be. Genderqueer, to me, means non-binary and implies consistency.

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Couldn't agree with this more.

I also want to add that genderqueer is an umbrella term so any identities under that "umbrella" (like genderfluid) may identify as such.

I am genderqueer but I do not identify as genderfluid because my gender isn't fluid to me. I always feel neither male nor female and the feelings about my gender don't change. It really depends on the individual person themselves.
09/09/2012
butts butts
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Originally posted by Non-Binary Unicorn
Couldn't agree with this more.

I also want to add that genderqueer is an umbrella term so any identities under that "umbrella" (like genderfluid) may identify as such.

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^^^^^ this! Genderqueer is like queer, it's an umbrella term for smaller categories under it. Bi-gender, two-spirited, genderfluid and agender fall under the category of genderqueer. Just like queer encompasses gay, bi, pan, etc.
09/12/2012
alextge alextge
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can anyone help me understand the differences, if any, in these two terms
I've always felt like genderqueer sort of encompasses the whole gambit of gender non conformity
05/14/2013
XzombehxbearzX XzombehxbearzX
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can anyone help me understand the differences, if any, in these two terms
I always thought they were the same. I mostly just say Queer and leave it at that.
05/27/2013
treehugger treehugger
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Originally posted by XzombehxbearzX
I always thought they were the same. I mostly just say Queer and leave it at that.
Yeah, queer covers a lot, but then again some people like labels that are more specific/more accurate. Like how someone can be genderqueer and genderfluid, genderqueer being the umbrella term of nonbinary trans* identities, and genderfluid specifying that they move between certain identities.
05/28/2013
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