How many are left that remember the days of "EF community"?

wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
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Originally posted by edeneve
I'd like to see the return of some familiar names & outstanding reviewers.
I would as well, but it may be hard to do that if they are really set on having left us.
Jan 2, 5:32 pm
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by wrecklesswords
I would as well, but it may be hard to do that if they are really set on having left us.
Oh you'd be surprised at just how many are lurking on a day to day basis.
Jan 2, 6:38 pm
lovelywoman lovelywoman
I am new can anybody tell me how much you get for the points you earn on here?
Jan 2, 9:03 pm
wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
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Originally posted by Ansley
Oh you'd be surprised at just how many are lurking on a day to day basis.
Hmmm, well then! I guess they still care and whatnot, but just choose not to participate, huh?
Jan 2, 10:16 pm
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by wrecklesswords
Hmmm, well then! I guess they still care and whatnot, but just choose not to participate, huh?
I don't know if care is the right word, but they are still checking things out on occasion. I'm not sure if they're waiting for the next train wreck or if they're just looking for something that interests them...

In either event, anyone who wants to participate in beneficial and meangingful ways is always welcome.
Jan 3, 9:05 am
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by lovelywoman
I am new can anybody tell me how much you get for the points you earn on here?
Points can be used towards 15% of your order cost.
Jan 3, 9:06 am
RonLee RonLee
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Originally posted by Ansley
Points can be used towards 15% of your order cost.
Just an FYI, EF is the reason that I have developed into such the toy snob that I am today. Additionally the old Points Program was the inducement for me to have spent well over $1000 (out of pocket, not counting points) with EF. BTW with the change in the points program, my strong loyalty to making ALL of my toy and supply purchases with EF is gone.
Jan 3, 11:11 am
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by RonLee
Just an FYI, EF is the reason that I have developed into such the toy snob that I am today. Additionally the old Points Program was the inducement for me to have spent well over $1000 (out of pocket, not counting points) with EF. BTW with the ... More
Thanks for the feedback.
Jan 3, 11:50 am
Taylor Taylor
I've been around quite awhile, 3 years maybe? I've never been one of the most active people on here though. I don't get on as much as I used to since I work 2 jobs, but I still like to check in. Eden is where I began exploring my sexuality, it was from reading posts, articles, and reviews that I learned tips on having orgasms on my own communicating with partners, different techniques to try, products to try, etc.

I miss covering entire purchases with points too, but I feel pretty loyal to EF because it has been such a big part of learning my sexuality. It is a little quieter here now, but I'm still discovering new things from people's posts so I think it is still a nice community to be a part of, so I will keep sticking around.
Jan 3, 10:23 pm
wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
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Originally posted by Taylor
I've been around quite awhile, 3 years maybe? I've never been one of the most active people on here though. I don't get on as much as I used to since I work 2 jobs, but I still like to check in. Eden is where I began exploring my ... More
This is actually how I feel. I did really like that feature because it helped me out a lot when I was barely scraping by financially.

But I am still so loyal to eden that I still always come here first before looking on other sites for what I want.

It's good to see that you've been around about 3 years, even if you have been semi-quiet
Jan 4, 10:26 am
edeneve edeneve
I loved writing reviews. and thanks to my mentor & several other great reviewers, I learned a lot & my reviews were well accepted. the old points system made this possible. I live on a very tight budget & have no discretionary income. many members told me how I made a great contribution to EF. I was proud of my accomplishments & still am.

I miss all the excitement of searching, ordering, waiting, getting, testing, & reviewing a new product. I made sure I gave my best effort in writing every review knowing that it could influence a customer's buying choices.

I spent many hours reading & learning about all kinds of products. I learned a lot about my sexuality through the reviews & forum. EF used to be the highlight of my days. I was absolutely obsessed w/ EF. I sang EF's praises whenever & wherever I could. I really miss writing reviews.
Jan 4, 3:22 pm
Missy27 Missy27
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Originally posted by edeneve
how many are left that remember the days of "EF community"? I find the forums to be so empty these days. I so miss all the familiar names. what about you? do you remember all those members?
I am looking forward to the community this year. I think we can make it happen.
Jan 6, 3:01 pm
The-IT-Guy-And-My-Secretary The-IT-Guy-And-My-Secretary
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Originally posted by Ansley
Thanks for the feedback.
Honestly Stormy, I think a lot of people feel as if sharing sexual content in their own lives is worth more than a 15% discount on a toy.

I know people abused EF in the past but there were those of us who didn't abuse EF such as ourselves. Truthfully I think that people went with EF because they felt they were being compensated for their stories and reviews (Being personal sexual content and experiences).

Now that only 15% of the purchase can be covered by points why wouldn't you just find a discount code. Truthfully, the 30% discount on being an advanced reviewer plus 15% is looked at by a rational person as this.

The prices charged by Eden are obviously to make a profit. Why would you be in business if you were not trying to make a profit? 30% off for a review purchase is probably around the wholesale cost of the toy. Taking 15% off for points on top of that is probably cutting into the meat of the toy. So technically how much is that killing the company? How much would you ask to be compensated for taking three hours of your time to write a document for someone? How much is your time worth?

If you consider the forum was obviously designed to be advertising.... AND how many people buy a toy because of reviews.... I think you see what I am saying here.

Maybe what should have happened would be preventing point farming by keeping track of how people made their points and allowing people to continue to purchase toys with their points.

I completely understand why a company needs to make a profit but you have to take into account that bringing people and attention to the business has a giant cost too.

I think it sucked how people took all of their frustrations out on you, if you want the truth because it wasn't your fault. I don't blame the CEO and leadership for making changes because if changes have to be made to stay profitable and stay afloat you do what you have to do.

I am just saying that you may find people feel like we do. We support Eden but we kind of feel slighted by Eden as well.
Jan 10, 9:28 pm
wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
I went away for my "weekend" (I'm off every Thursday and Friday) and met a girl who actually uses this site a lot and she said that she stopped coming here as often because of the decrease of the points and all that happened.

It was kind of neat to meet someone in person who I could talk to about it and get face to face feedback about it with.
Jan 11, 10:58 pm
edeneve edeneve
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Originally posted by wrecklesswords
I went away for my "weekend" (I'm off every Thursday and Friday) and met a girl who actually uses this site a lot and she said that she stopped coming here as often because of the decrease of the points and all that happened. ... More
that's good to hear.
Jan 11, 11:09 pm
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by The-IT-Guy-And-My-Secretary
Honestly Stormy, I think a lot of people feel as if sharing sexual content in their own lives is worth more than a 15% discount on a toy.

I know people abused EF in the past but there were those of us who didn't abuse EF such as ... More
All perfectly understandable, but you're absolutely correct we have to make profits. Though, I will kindly and respectfully disagree that someone needs additional incentive outside of free product to write reviews. ALL of the major vendors in the industry offer some sort of review program and most are quite successful -- the difference between those retailers and EF is that we give you a platform to host that information instead of making you shell out of pocket for a blog.

It's all about perspective.

I do appreciate you stating your opinion on the backlash everyone, not just me, received during that time. What I don't understand is why we're still talking about it 7 months later. It's done and it's not going to change any time soon.
Jan 13, 12:12 pm
The-IT-Guy-And-My-Secretary The-IT-Guy-And-My-Secretary
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Originally posted by Ansley
All perfectly understandable, but you're absolutely correct we have to make profits. Though, I will kindly and respectfully disagree that someone needs additional incentive outside of free product to write reviews. ALL of the major vendors in the ... More
I think you misunderstood me Stormy. I didn't say that we need additional incentives. What I said was having a cap at 15% of the order to use points on all of the sudden didn't seem right for people who were doing right by EF. All I was saying was that capping it at 15% may seem like not enough of an incentive to some people.

I am sure it will work its way out. I didn't intend for my comment to have a disrespectful tone if it came off that way.

You got handed the huge task of righting the ship after the turn over and I respect you for putting your best efforts into it. Thank you.
Jan 13, 11:01 pm
wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
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Originally posted by The-IT-Guy-And-My-Secretary
I think you misunderstood me Stormy. I didn't say that we need additional incentives. What I said was having a cap at 15% of the order to use points on all of the sudden didn't seem right for people who were doing right by EF. All I was ... More
After reading this, I totally retract my unsaid thoughts haha, you have a great point, though and I agree that Stormy has been doing a lot and I have respect for her as well for all that she has done almost on her own.
Jan 14, 12:49 am
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by The-IT-Guy-And-My-Secretary
I think you misunderstood me Stormy. I didn't say that we need additional incentives. What I said was having a cap at 15% of the order to use points on all of the sudden didn't seem right for people who were doing right by EF. All I was ... More
Thank you for not biting my head off. I see your point much more clearly now. I don't think we'll ever go back to 100% on points but I do know that Fred was/is working on incentive programs of a different nature. Programs based on loyalty and that kind of thing. Hopefully, we'll start seeing more of those things soon.

I didn't find your comment to be disrepectful and I sincerely appreciate the recognition for what I put on my plate in regards to the whole situation. It was my choice and I don't regret it at all.

There is nothing more that I want for this place than to see it healthy and thriving. I'm counting on the people who are still here to support what we do have -- more support and activity brings greater incentives.
Jan 14, 11:13 am
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by wrecklesswords
After reading this, I totally retract my unsaid thoughts haha, you have a great point, though and I agree that Stormy has been doing a lot and I have respect for her as well for all that she has done almost on her own.
Thank you! It's been a wild ride, that's for sure. I appreciate everyone who has stuck it out with us and those who are returning. It's not perfect, by any means, but it's still (imo) better than a lot of sites out there.
Jan 14, 11:15 am
wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
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Originally posted by Ansley
Thank you! It's been a wild ride, that's for sure. I appreciate everyone who has stuck it out with us and those who are returning. It's not perfect, by any means, but it's still (imo) better than a lot of sites out there.
Definitely! I do like to browse and shop on another site, but I don't like the lack of feeling in the reviews or the fact that there's no community for people to discuss things, items, or everything that we do on here.
Jan 14, 11:45 am
edeneve edeneve
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Originally posted by wrecklesswords
Definitely! I do like to browse and shop on another site, but I don't like the lack of feeling in the reviews or the fact that there's no community for people to discuss things, items, or everything that we do on here.
the new reviews now are definitely lacking compared to the solid reviews by quite a few of those no longer here. if you read the higher ranked reviewer's work, you'll see the quality. and I am saddened by the current lack of much of anything in the forums worth participating in as other longtime members have expressed who I will not put on the spot by naming them.
Jan 14, 3:03 pm
B8trDude B8trDude
Wow, it's been ages since I've visited and things are so different. As someone who used to love to write reviews and visit the forums, EF now appears to be a ghost town. Points are now capped at 15%?! I've got 67,600 points that I'll never use up. I also miss all of the fun regulars that used to hang around. The number and quality of reviews of toys for men has certainly declined too.
Jan 14, 10:35 pm
wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
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Originally posted by B8trDude
Wow, it's been ages since I've visited and things are so different. As someone who used to love to write reviews and visit the forums, EF now appears to be a ghost town. Points are now capped at 15%?! I've got 67,600 points that I'll ... More
I definitely miss all the regulars that were here, too! It is a ghost town and it is very sad, but if we love it enough and work hard enough, we can build the community back up and make it amazing again.
Jan 14, 10:55 pm
Dixiemomma Dixiemomma
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Originally posted by edeneve
how many are left that remember the days of "EF community"? I find the forums to be so empty these days. I so miss all the familiar names. what about you? do you remember all those members?
i do miss it!!! i left for a few months after the whole "change" i just came back recently and am trying to get back into the swing of writing but it just doesn't seem to be as much fun maybe it'll get better again
Jan 15, 12:21 am
wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
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Originally posted by Dixiemomma
i do miss it!!! i left for a few months after the whole "change" i just came back recently and am trying to get back into the swing of writing but it just doesn't seem to be as much fun maybe it'll get better again
I think it will definitely get better. I want to put a lot of effort in getting the community going again, getting people back into writing. Just getting everyone involved again.

I know I can't speak for everyone, but I would love to see us grow our community, let it grow with the change, let it blossom into something new, you know?

I have absolute faith that we can get out of this rut that we're in.
Jan 15, 12:42 am
edeneve edeneve
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Originally posted by wrecklesswords
I think it will definitely get better. I want to put a lot of effort in getting the community going again, getting people back into writing. Just getting everyone involved again.

I know I can't speak for everyone, but I would love to see ... More
so what do you propose members do?
Jan 15, 10:42 am
Ansley Ansley
Jan 15, 10:57 am
wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
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Originally posted by edeneve
so what do you propose members do?
Essentially, the amount of points we get for things are the same except the took out the searches, the comparison, the add-to-wish-list points. And of course the amount we can use toward purchases.

But nothing else has changed. The forums are still the same, we can still write reviews, we can still participate in the proofreading program, the mentor program. All of that is the same.

Suggest the site to people, keep active on the forums, add to the community, keep writing your reviews. Like I said in another thread, this is just the leftovers of a bad breakup your friend is trying desperately to get out of.

And, honestly, at this point, if the points-toward-purchase s is that big of a deal (which, yes, I understand how much it sucks more than you know because I am far too poor to afford any of the toys I want), then maybe it is time to move on.

Because frankly, at the end of the day, this is just another website out there, another forum out there, trying to bring people together over the same, positive things, but the same negative things keep getting thrown back in our faces.

We just carry on like it's any other day at Eden. Things can only get better if we want them to.
Jan 15, 10:58 am
wrecklesswords wrecklesswords
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Originally posted by Ansley
oh my god awesome!! hahaha

You summed up what I posted RIGHT below you with this.

Also, that is my favorite book of all time.
Jan 15, 10:59 am
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