As an American - Is it offensive?

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As an American - Is it offensive?

Falsepast Falsepast
I know this video is making fun of America a bit, but I still love it and have to listen to it every 9/11.

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09/11/2012
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Supervixen Supervixen
Really? Every September 11th, you commemorate the day where nearly 3,000 people were brutally murdered in an act of pure hatred and violence with listening to a song from Team America?

Wow...just, wow.
09/11/2012
duff duff
I couldnt open it on my phone ganna have to go to the computer
09/11/2012
Falsepast Falsepast
Quote:
Originally posted by Supervixen
Really? Every September 11th, you commemorate the day where nearly 3,000 people were brutally murdered in an act of pure hatred and violence with listening to a song from Team America?

Wow...just, wow.
Never once did i say i "commemorate" anyone or anything.
I simply said i have to listen to it every 9/11. You assume things too quickly.

It simply sounds very patriotic, and i like it. Thats why i listen to it.
09/11/2012
K101 K101
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Originally posted by Falsepast
I know this video is making fun of America a bit, but I still love it and have to listen to it every 9/11.

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For some reason it would not play or even show up the play button, but if it's making fun of 911 in any way at all then it's just downright nasty. Thats is one thing that will NEVER under any circumstance be funny or be OK to make light of. EVER. Making fun of America, whatever. But 911 is, no matter how many years ago it happened, heart wrenching. It's too real to make light of, and to anyone who could laugh over a joke about it, I'd recommend they spend a day watching the footage sent in on 911. They play it all over TV about every year, and every year it's so heavy to me and my family. Most people, with a heart, have some kind of sad, heavy or feeling period on 911 and joking is the very last thing I could do when it comes to our country being BOMBED and terrorized. No, just not funny. Not ever.
09/11/2012
Falsepast Falsepast
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Originally posted by K101
For some reason it would not play or even show up the play button, but if it's making fun of 911 in any way at all then it's just downright nasty. Thats is one thing that will NEVER under any circumstance be funny or be OK to make light of. ...
Thats strange, but no its not.
09/11/2012
Beck Beck
I must be missing what is offensive. I don't find it offensive. I had a few giggles.
09/11/2012
ellieprobable ellieprobable
Honestly, I think it does a good job of summing up the way a tragedy was twisted for political gain and has been subsequently used to significantly limit our freedoms. 9/11 remembrance stuff always rubs me as "off" in a variety of ways.
09/11/2012
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by ellieprobable
Honestly, I think it does a good job of summing up the way a tragedy was twisted for political gain and has been subsequently used to significantly limit our freedoms. 9/11 remembrance stuff always rubs me as "off" in a variety of ways.
Yeah...I can't quite put my finger on it, but I feel like every commemoration of that day is just...eh, not a good thing. It just seems really, really wrong to me.

I also disagreed with removing the trade towers from the skyline of every movie, tv show, or commercial ever made. That seemed like a really great way to erase the entire thing from future memory and history books and flies in the face of "we will never forget".
09/11/2012
Ciao. Ciao.
I'm sure plenty of people found Team America offensive. Personally, I find most of it funny (there are definitely parts that are stupid/tactless/heavy- handed, but that's Matt Stone & Trey Parker productions in general).

Listening to the theme from Team America on 9/11 is not for me, but I don't find it blatantly offensive either. Nothing wrong with poking fun at America and/or enjoying a bombastic/comedic song, but I'm betting 99% of the people questioning your decision are just questioning your timing.

9/11 is a touchy subject, people died, and America experienced a new sense of vulnerability and instability that we hadn't since probably Pearl Harbor. That's big stuff, and people handle that with differing emotions based on their experiences and relationship to the day itself. Especially those who lost friends and loved ones.

Memorials/commemoratio ns/rembrances are tough things culturally to manage, and 9/11 is full of a lot of cultural and political baggage. I'd just be careful how you approach the topic.


As an aside, I will occasionally watch 11'09"11 on or around September 11th. Not every year, but some. It's a collection of short films from around the world that explore 9/11 from multiple different perspectives and approaches. Some are funny, some hard to watch, some really poignant, but all really interesting ways of seeing that moment from a view that is not the one most of us are used to.
09/11/2012
Artishok Artishok
Hilarious
09/11/2012
ilikepies2 ilikepies2
Meh.
09/11/2012
NymphetamineKiss NymphetamineKiss
I'm not American, but I have to say I find it kind of odd to have a ritual around a song from Team America for sept 11th...
09/11/2012
Yaoi Pervette (deleted) Yaoi Pervette (deleted)
I am not offended. I think the song is cool. I listened to it the day they announced the death of Bin Laden.
09/11/2012
Falsepast Falsepast
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Originally posted by Yaoi Pervette (deleted)
I am not offended. I think the song is cool. I listened to it the day they announced the death of Bin Laden.
Same here
09/11/2012
Supervixen Supervixen
Quote:
Originally posted by Falsepast
Never once did i say i "commemorate" anyone or anything.
I simply said i have to listen to it every 9/11. You assume things too quickly.

It simply sounds very patriotic, and i like it. Thats why i listen to it.
And never once did I indicate that I'm offended by Team America--I'm not in the least. I'm perplexed as to why someone would say, "You know, every 9/11, I just have to play a song that makes fun of American arrogance." What a way to reflect. And to commemorate the day, means basically, to mark the day, which you do, by listening to this song. But then again, you think it sounds patriotic, which is...odd.
09/11/2012
brevado brevado
Two totally different issues here, which only someone looking to be offended would probably connect.
09/11/2012
Intrepid Niddering Intrepid Niddering
I don't find it offensive at all.

And honestly, I am so tired of hearing about September eleventh every single year. I understood stuff being brought up a year later, but seriously? Every year for eleven years? I am so done with it. Yes, it was tragic. It's not that I don't believe you needn't remember it. But there is so much stuff plastered all over that whole day every year that it gets annoying. Do they have this much stuff every single year to talk about Pearl Harbour? No. But I think -that- day deserves a whole lot more recognition.
09/11/2012
RomanticGoth RomanticGoth
*shrugs*
09/11/2012
Falsepast Falsepast
Quote:
Originally posted by Supervixen
And never once did I indicate that I'm offended by Team America--I'm not in the least. I'm perplexed as to why someone would say, "You know, every 9/11, I just have to play a song that makes fun of American arrogance." What a ...
Never mind, I forgot that not everyone understands me.
09/12/2012
XxFallenAngelxX XxFallenAngelxX
Just odd..
09/12/2012
GONE! GONE!
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Originally posted by ellieprobable
Honestly, I think it does a good job of summing up the way a tragedy was twisted for political gain and has been subsequently used to significantly limit our freedoms. 9/11 remembrance stuff always rubs me as "off" in a variety of ways.
This. It also disgusts and disturbs me how many people tried to make a quick buck off the tragedy with things like commemorative plates, t-shirts, bumper stickers, and all sorts of other nonsense. I don't see how much more can be offensive than the things people have done for their own political or financial gain as a result.
09/12/2012
Lildrummrgurl7 Lildrummrgurl7
I don't think it's offensive at all. Today, my friend posted a Facebook status that said "Never forget, 8/9/1945" A lot of people got all offended but he has a good point. We killed 60,000-80,000 innocent people that day.

But yes, my fiance AND my father both love Team America so I've heard "America (Fuck Yeah)" too many times in my life to find it too hilarious.
09/12/2012
Errant Venture Errant Venture
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Originally posted by K101
For some reason it would not play or even show up the play button, but if it's making fun of 911 in any way at all then it's just downright nasty. Thats is one thing that will NEVER under any circumstance be funny or be OK to make light of. ...
Never? Ever? That's idiotic. Humour is how a lot of people live, and come to terms, with tragedy. This is no different. It's human nature. And, besides, I also feel that there's a certain amount of playing the victim. Are you going to wallow in sadness forever? As Leonard's mother would say, 'buck-up, sissypants.'
09/12/2012
JennSenn JennSenn
I agree with boink and stormy. They said it better than I ever could. Personally I don't care for the song.
09/12/2012
Rin (aka Nire) Rin (aka Nire)
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Originally posted by Ansley
Yeah...I can't quite put my finger on it, but I feel like every commemoration of that day is just...eh, not a good thing. It just seems really, really wrong to me.

I also disagreed with removing the trade towers from the skyline of every ...
Indeed - it always bothered me that the way the media dealt with 9/11 was to avoid airing episodes of shows that happened to involve the twin towers. Apparently the appropriate way to honor the memories is to pretend they never existed in the first place.
09/15/2012
PassionCpl PassionCpl
The song's not offensive (I find it really funny) but 'celebrating/commemora ting' 9/11 with it seems a little strange to me. The US was ostensibly attacked that day because of its involvement - that some see as intrusion - in foreign countries' affairs. The Team America song is actually the opposite of patriotic. It satirises not only over-the-top patriotism, but also the very American 'arrogance' that got the country attacked.

I mean, look at some of the lyrics:

McDonalds, FUCK YEAH!
Wal-Mart, FUCK YEAH!
The Gap, FUCK YEAH!
Baseball, FUCK YEAH!
NFL, FUCK, YEAH!
Rock and roll, FUCK YEAH!
The Internet, FUCK YEAH!
Slavery, FUCK YEAH!

So yes, I think it's a funny song and funny movie. But for me, linking "America (Fuck Yeah)" to patriotism on 9/11 is as appropriate as playing Bryan Adams' "Run To You" at a wedding (it's a song about cheating on the girl who loves you with someone who just turns you on)
10/03/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
I looked at it and lasted about 30 seconds. I would have turned it off sooner, but I thought it might get better.

I found it stupid.

It's not what I look for in entertainment. I don't get the 9/11 connection, either, but I turned the ridiculous thing off after less than a minute.
10/03/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Rin (aka Nire)
Indeed - it always bothered me that the way the media dealt with 9/11 was to avoid airing episodes of shows that happened to involve the twin towers. Apparently the appropriate way to honor the memories is to pretend they never existed in the first ...
That only lasted a few months, it's no longer being done and it was completely voluntary, nobody "refused to air" shows that showed the Twin Towers, but TV shows like Friends took all references to the Twin Towers out of their shows, intro scene and between scene shots.
10/03/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Intrepid Niddering
I don't find it offensive at all.

And honestly, I am so tired of hearing about September eleventh every single year. I understood stuff being brought up a year later, but seriously? Every year for eleven years? I am so done with it. Yes, ...
I'm sorry the horrific deaths of more than 3000 innocent people "annoys" you. I'm sure they feel bad that their dying in a ball of fire or a building collapsing around them makes you "annoyed."

FTR, Pearl Harbor Day was still celebrated every year when I was a kid. It was still a HUGE deal for decades and commemorated every year for decades. It hasn't been forgotten. But, it's comparing apples and oranges. Pearl Harbor was a Military Installation and Hawaii wasn't even part of the United States when it happened. The Twin Towers and the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania were attacks on innocent civilians and happened ON American soil. Two completely different things. Not to be "compared."

If 9/11 is so "annoying" to you, don't turn the freakin' TV on that day. It's easy to avoid, if you can unplug for 24 hours.

Sorry the deaths of so many was so irritating to you. I'm sure the dead people and their families and friends feel bad about it, too. My guess is they feel a hell of a lot more than "annoyance" about the whole thing. These commemorations mean a lot to those who lost loved ones. If you don't care for this stuff, it's fairly simple to stay away from. One doesn't have to be plugged into technology 24/7.

Makes my point in an other thread about people becoming desensitized to the suffering of other human beings. Sheesh.
10/03/2012
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