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Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
Listening to the radio this morning, I heard a story about a principal at a middle school in Memphis who was trying to get students to follow the 'no baggy/saggy pants' rule and decided to fight pop culture with pop culture, taking the saggy pants that imitate that of rappers in music videos (the principal's words, not mine) and turning them into a pop culture icon that most of these kids have never heard of: Steve Urkel. When a staff member there sees a student wearing baggy pants, the pants are pulled up and zip tied in place in the same fashion that Urkel would wear his pants. But it seems to be working, because apparently there's been about an 80% drop in kids breaking this rule.

But I'm curious as to what you all think. The talk show I was listening to took callers and most of them were pretty supportive of it as a general idea, with the only complaints being that the kids might have a harder time using the restroom.

A link to the story can be found right here
12/08/2010
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Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
I support it. There is a city in Georgia where you can get arrested for exposing your underwear via wearing pants too low or having a thong peak out. This was passed under the notion that it is a "sanitary issue". That is a bit extreme, but this is totally appropriate. It's like my high school and Jr. High making the kids wear their gym uniform all day if their choice of clothing was inappropriate.
12/08/2010
Contributor: Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
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Originally posted by Jul!a
Listening to the radio this morning, I heard a story about a principal at a middle school in Memphis who was trying to get students to follow the 'no baggy/saggy pants' rule and decided to fight pop culture with pop culture, taking the saggy ... more
I saw this on the news.

There is a lot of good involved, but still kinda little weary about it. Some Teachers are touchy feely enough as it is. Plus, can this cause any physical discomfort or injury? Those are my concerns.
12/08/2010
Contributor: Chilipepper Chilipepper
*giggle* It took them fifteen years to finally come up with a solution? (Yes, guys weren't wearing their pants right since I was in high school.)

I'm all for it. I always thought it made them look like they had saggy, full diapers.
12/08/2010
Contributor: Sir Sir
Two wrongs don't make a right.
12/08/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Sir
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Some people believe they do, especially if it prevents more wrongs.
12/08/2010
Contributor: sarahbear sarahbear
Why not simply enforce the dress code? A lot of schools around here require you to wear a belt with your pants (if they've got belt loops) and to wear them at the waist. If you break the dress code, you go sit in ISS all day long.

I'm not against measures like this. It's just that it seems unnecessary. I guess if the kids were really stubborn and wound up in ISS (or whatever punishment they give out for breaking dress code) then you could resort to stuff like this.
12/08/2010
Contributor: Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
I don`t agree with the method. I also am concerned with the whole thongs hanging out deal, because unless that is the idea, I don`t think it`s fair. First because there are not a lot of pants made that go up high enough to cover a girls ass crack these days. I can`t shop in a lot of clothing sections because the pants don`t even come halfway up my butt. I wear midrise bootcuts and they fit me comfortably but I also have no hips and everything slides down unless my belt is tight enough to be uncomfortable. I wear pants the correct size for my body and even if i wear them a size small I usually have to wear a slightly longer shirt to avoid any unintentional exposure. I honestly don`t see the issue with the mens pants either. I think it is a totally ridiculous fashion but, aside from indecent exposure, when did that become a crime? I think the rule should be geared towards the intent of the fashion. If it is offensive or intentionally provocative nix it. If it is a matter of people looking like idiots.... let them.
12/08/2010
Contributor: J's Alley J's Alley
HA! When I was in HS the guys got a choice: 3 day suspension or they could staple their pants tight enough that they would stay on the hips or higher.
12/08/2010
Contributor: J's Alley J's Alley
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Originally posted by Emma (Girl With Fire)
I don`t agree with the method. I also am concerned with the whole thongs hanging out deal, because unless that is the idea, I don`t think it`s fair. First because there are not a lot of pants made that go up high enough to cover a girls ass crack ... more
I had the same issue. It got to the point where I will only buy jeans from Buckle because they have a jean for every body type. But now I have to pay $80+ for a pair of pants.

I will say that this is a good method, but it does need to apply to both genders. Females should not have their bodies showing either.
12/08/2010
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
If it is done then it should not be done in a way to intentionally humiliate the students (i.e. Urkel style). Just pull them up to the hips/waist/whatever and keep them there.
12/08/2010
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
Some people believe they do, especially if it prevents more wrongs.
Some people might. But I don't.

It isn't preventing more wrongs if the person who is trying to "prevent" the wrongs is doing wrong themselves. That's just putting the wrongs on another person.

Just suspend the person. Why make yourself seem like a jerk and push your authority?
12/08/2010
Contributor: Victoria Victoria
Dude, just give detentions and suspensions for not following the dress code. Simple.

However... at my kids' school, if you come to school out of uniform (jeans, logo tees, etc) you have change into and wear a neon green sweatsuit all day. And I kinda love that. It's only for 6th grade and up - not the little kids who really might not know better.
12/08/2010
Contributor: Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
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Originally posted by Victoria
Dude, just give detentions and suspensions for not following the dress code. Simple.

However... at my kids' school, if you come to school out of uniform (jeans, logo tees, etc) you have change into and wear a neon green sweatsuit all day. ... more
So what happens if the kids parents washer and dryer broke and they don't have clean uniforms? I mean it is kind of understandable but still.

I just think that if there is a dress code and the students are not abiding by it you should deal with it by giving the same punishments you would for any other transgression. Let the entire student body know that if students will not comply with the dress code the school with be forced to implement the use of uniforms. It worked at my school.
12/08/2010
Contributor: Rockin' Rockin'
At my high school there were a lot of people who didn't follow the dress code. Enforcing a policy like a dress code is quite difficult when a large portion of the student body violates it every day. You can't send a quarter of the kids to detention, put them in-school suspension, or send them home.

I think this method of dress code enforcement is much better than sending kids to detention or suspending them, because it keeps them in school and it provides a much bigger deterrent to violating the dress code again. What does the student get out of violating the code? They get their dress code problem fixed. Then they sit in class with the rest of their peers, like they should. Going to detention or going home isn't punishment for a lot of people. They don't want to have to sit through class, answer questions from a teacher, or deal with the world. The zip-tie method of enforcement really addresses the problem (the pants) without taking the kids away from the classroom. It's weird, sure. But if it works, *especially* as a preventative measure, I support it.
12/08/2010
Contributor: KnK KnK
I love this. It's hilarious. Embarrassment/humiliat ion is Waaaaaaay more effective than getting a detention which some kids still think marks you as a badass. Lol
12/08/2010
Contributor: Alicia Alicia
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Originally posted by Emma (Girl With Fire)
So what happens if the kids parents washer and dryer broke and they don't have clean uniforms? I mean it is kind of understandable but still.

I just think that if there is a dress code and the students are not abiding by it you should ... more
"So what happens if the kids parents washer and dryer broke and they don't have clean uniforms?"

Then they go to a laundromat and wash enough to get through the week. My daughter only went to a school that required uniforms for one year and our washer did break once during that year and we had to go to the laundromat to wash some uniforms because of course it broke before I had done the load with all her uniforms!
12/08/2010
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
I can't say their method is completely right... But I also don't like seeing people's underwear either. (And though it's hilarious to see them hold their clothes in place when they run, it's not appropriate.)

But no matter the right or wrong, it's hilarious!
12/09/2010
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
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Originally posted by KnK
I love this. It's hilarious. Embarrassment/humiliat ion is Waaaaaaay more effective than getting a detention which some kids still think marks you as a badass. Lol
Not necessarily. It can also breed resentment.
12/09/2010
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by sarahbear
Why not simply enforce the dress code? A lot of schools around here require you to wear a belt with your pants (if they've got belt loops) and to wear them at the waist. If you break the dress code, you go sit in ISS all day long.

I'm ... more
This would be their way of enforcing the dress code. And I obviously don't know all the details of everything at the school, but there was a caller who happened to be from that area and I guess it's the kind of area where everything else had been tried, and the kids just didn't care about getting stuck in ISS. However they do care about looking "stupid" so this seems to be working out pretty well.
12/09/2010