Are you concerned Big Brother is watching?

Hallmar82 Hallmar82
Are you worried that the government (NSA, IRS, etc.) is collecting and monitoring your on-line activity or phone calls? Not just on EF but any adult website or even Facebook being recorded.
Answers (private voting - your screen name will NOT appear in the results):
Yes, I don't trust the government with my private data
21  (31%)
Yes, but I'm only a little concerned
16  (24%)
I don't know enough to say
1  (1%)
No, I don't care one way or the other
24  (36%)
No, I completely trust the government
My name is Rusty Shackleford
5  (7%)
Total votes: 67
Poll is closed
06/11/2013
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Hallmar82 Hallmar82
By now your name and particulars have been fed into every laptop, desktop, mainframe and supermarket scanner that collectively make up the global information conspiracy, otherwise known as "The Beast."
06/11/2013
Trysexual Trysexual
Yes, it's a bit concerning.
06/11/2013
MrWill MrWill
While I understand the sentiment of "If you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear" I think it is total and complete bullshit.

Most would be blown away at what can be done with a 4 year old laptop on a 1.5mb connection by someone with no training.

I can, from where I sit right now, take over computers remotely (I've installed software for someone over 800 miles away before), which means I would have full access to every file and folder, the webcam, any microphones, and any network said computer has access to.

Network access provides contact with other machines on the same network, and there is almost always one with more credentials for another network.


Now: Imagine that power being wielded by a couple of hundred of intelligence agents that have access to a super computer with future of the art (the stuff we'll have in 15 year) algorithms that can do allllll kinds of things with a keystroke or two. Oh hey, they've also got access to the cell phone networks, the broadcast networks, and anything you've ever said into a phone/computer/or even in front of a network connected camera.



So: Yeah, it bothers me. It bothers me that a political system that is largely controlled by corporate interests has the technological power to silence (as well as locate, and publicly destroy) someone that could cause a hiccup in some plan they have. Then you throw in the fact that they've got the drones that can blow the top off of a 20oz soda at 10 miles (and still leave enough of the bottle for you to quench your thirst), and yeah I'm a little concerned.


1984 much? Just wait, it won't be long before Monsatano has your Soylent Green waiting for you.
06/11/2013
Virgingasms Virgingasms
I'm not conspiracy theory level worried, but I do think it's an invasion of privacy.
06/11/2013
evanescentowl evanescentowl
I am upset, just not all that surprised. Which is sad.
06/11/2013
Beautiful-Disaster Beautiful-Disaster
I could care less. I'm not doing anything I shouldn't be doing..
06/11/2013
Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
Google knows way more about you than the gov't does. Is Google going to protect you from terrorists?
06/12/2013
LoveX LoveX
I don't care either way. The important stuff I have, that the government could potentially take (besides money) isn't registered anyways, and I don't make enough money for them to care about little ol' me anyways.
06/12/2013
Nezzie13 Nezzie13
I'm close to several people that the government keeps their eye on, so I imagine my habits have been glanced at already. No one's come here to pick me up, so I'd say they don't care
06/12/2013
sunflower sunflower
Quote:
Originally posted by MrWill
While I understand the sentiment of "If you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear" I think it is total and complete bullshit.

Most would be blown away at what can be done with a 4 year old laptop on a 1.5mb ... More
Lol @ the last part but it's accurate.

Think about how you could be blackmailed or have your life ruined if someone read every key you ever swiped and any thing you have said to anyone. I know ways I could, and not because I even did anything wrong. Just because it's the internet doesn't mean it's not unfair search and seizure. Reading everything I've ever written is akin to just walking into my house and searching through all my shit. The 4th amendment protects peoples papers and documents too. No difference.

Think of all your medical records that are in a computerized system. Everything is computerized nowadays.

"If you don't have anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about." That is not even the point really. Does never committing a crime or saying anything wrong over text, phone call, Skype call and video and IM, facebook, google, email, etc. mean that you're still down with having your rights violated? It's the principle of the thing. Who gives a shit about the 4th amendment anyway, right? It really is the principle of the thing and the fact that people are OK with having their rights trampled on just because it doesn't impact them personally at the moment is kind of shocking.

The 4th amendment was put into place to protect the 1st amendment. Getting into conspiracy territory here, what if I had a popular political blog where I posted my negative thoughts on how the government runs things. With all the information they know about me, could they try to silence me? Yes. That was a really dumb example but do you get the point? Stifling freedom of speech could happen next. "But they would never do that!" yeah, and I didn't think they were doing this either hahaha. Trust no bitch tbh!

Here, have a Benjamin Franklin: They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
06/12/2013
SourAppleMartini SourAppleMartini
I just really hope that they won't lose this information. I don't care about information being collected,as I believe that tracing potentially dangerous people such as pedophiles and religious fanatics is crucially important. After all, it can prevent some horrible things from happening. I personally have nothing to worry about, I am not doing anything wrong.
06/12/2013
Cosmonaut Cosmonaut
I wouldn't even care.
06/12/2013
Pixel Pixel
If you're not concerned, you're not getting the right news.

One of the best posts I've read recently on PRISM and what it can possibly mean for the country was on reddit. Someone from a middle eastern country made an excellent post, I'm quoting a bit from it and will leave you with the full link. It's well worth reading.

"I live in a country generally assumed to be a dictatorship. One of the Arab spring countries. I have lived through curfews and have seen the outcomes of the sort of surveillance now being revealed in the US. People here talking about curfews aren’t realizing what that actually FEELS like. It isn’t about having to go inside, and the practicality of that. It’s about creating the feeling that everyone, everything is watching. A few points:

1) the purpose of this surveillance from the governments point of view is to control enemies of the state. Not terrorists. People who are coalescing around ideas that would destabilize the status quo. These could be religious ideas. These could be groups like anon who are too good with tech for the governments liking. It makes it very easy to know who these people are. It also makes it very simple to control these people.

Lets say you are a college student and you get in with some people who want to stop farming practices that hurt animals. So you make a plan and go to protest these practices. You get there, and wow, the protest is huge. You never expected this, you were just goofing off. Well now everyone who was there is suspect. Even though you technically had the right to protest, you’re now considered a dangerous person.

With this tech in place, the government doesn’t have to put you in jail. They can do something more sinister. They can just email you a sexy picture you took with a girlfriend. Or they can email you a note saying that they can prove your dad is cheating on his taxes. Or they can threaten to get your dad fired. All you have to do, the email says, is help them catch your friends in the group. You have to report back every week, or you dad might lose his job. So you do. You turn in your friends and even though they try to keep meetings off grid, you’re reporting on them to protect your dad.

2) Let’s say number one goes on. The country is a weird place now. Really weird. Pretty soon, a movement springs up like occupy, except its bigger this time. People are really serious, and they are saying they want a government without this power. I guess people are realizing that it is a serious deal. You see on the news that tear gas was fired. Your friend calls you, frantic. They’re shooting people. Oh my god. you never signed up for this. You say, fuck it. My dad might lose his job but I won’t be responsible for anyone dying. That’s going too far. You refuse to report anymore. You just stop going to meetings. You stay at home, and try not to watch the news. Three days later, police come to your door and arrest you. They confiscate your computer and phones, and they beat you up a bit. No one can help you so they all just sit quietly. They know if they say anything they’re next. This happened in the country I live in. It is not a joke."

You can read the rest here:link It's a link to a safe for work tumblr, no pics, and well worth the few minutes it's going to take you to read.
06/12/2013
eri86 eri86
Quote:
Originally posted by Pixel
If you're not concerned, you're not getting the right news.

One of the best posts I've read recently on PRISM and what it can possibly mean for the country was on reddit. Someone from a middle eastern country made an excellent ... More
06/12/2013
sunflower sunflower
Quote:
Originally posted by Pixel
If you're not concerned, you're not getting the right news.

One of the best posts I've read recently on PRISM and what it can possibly mean for the country was on reddit. Someone from a middle eastern country made an excellent ... More
Thank you for sharing the tumblr link. It was insightful for sure and you have some of the some opinions about this as I do.
06/12/2013
kendra30752 kendra30752
Quote:
Originally posted by Hallmar82
Are you worried that the government (NSA, IRS, etc.) is collecting and monitoring your on-line activity or phone calls? Not just on EF but any adult website or even Facebook being recorded.
Absolutely!

Enough said.
06/12/2013
ViVix ViVix
Quote:
Originally posted by Hallmar82
Are you worried that the government (NSA, IRS, etc.) is collecting and monitoring your on-line activity or phone calls? Not just on EF but any adult website or even Facebook being recorded.
Yes. Who doesn't want some semblance of privacy?
06/12/2013
melissa1973 melissa1973
I don't care either way. Let the government monitor all they want, that way they can catch people who are actually plotting things, while the rest of us know that if we don't do anything in a criminal manner then we don't have to worry about being arrested.
06/12/2013
lovelyzombie lovelyzombie
Quote:
Originally posted by melissa1973
I don't care either way. Let the government monitor all they want, that way they can catch people who are actually plotting things, while the rest of us know that if we don't do anything in a criminal manner then we don't have to worry ... More
Well said!
06/12/2013
MrWill MrWill
Quote:
Originally posted by melissa1973
I don't care either way. Let the government monitor all they want, that way they can catch people who are actually plotting things, while the rest of us know that if we don't do anything in a criminal manner then we don't have to worry ... More
Until at some point your child tries to run for office down the road, and it comes out that Ma or Pa was a kinky individual who reviewed sex toys. Or that little clip of ma blowing pa comes out and ruins their chances.


Just a thought.
06/12/2013
sexynola sexynola
Quote:
Originally posted by Hallmar82
Are you worried that the government (NSA, IRS, etc.) is collecting and monitoring your on-line activity or phone calls? Not just on EF but any adult website or even Facebook being recorded.
theres so much more we don't know that the government is doing and i think id prefer to keep it that way
06/12/2013
Hummingbird Hummingbird
I'm concerned about it but its out of my control. Hey, I'm monitored by an internal camera while at work. What do I do? Not work? At least the camera is visibly located.
06/12/2013
Septimus Septimus
If Big Brother is watching, I hope he's getting some good recommendations on which sex toys to buy, and learning to avoid toxic toys!


(Also, I love Dale Gribble)
06/12/2013
TiffanyW TiffanyW
The government has NO right to MY personal information.
06/12/2013
BrittaniMaree BrittaniMaree
Yes, but I'm only a little concerned
06/12/2013
libbyv libbyv
Quote:
Originally posted by Hallmar82
Are you worried that the government (NSA, IRS, etc.) is collecting and monitoring your on-line activity or phone calls? Not just on EF but any adult website or even Facebook being recorded.
i don't care
06/12/2013
bayosgirl bayosgirl
I'm a little concerned, but not too much because I know I'm not doing anything wrong. Unless looking at vibrators and lingerie online is a crime!
06/12/2013
Allstars316 Allstars316
No I'm not concerned at all.
06/12/2013
sXeVegan90 sXeVegan90
Yes, it is a little concerning for me.
06/12/2013
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Unique posters: 47