Colorado Batman shooting

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Colorado Batman shooting

Zombirella Zombirella
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"Updated at 9:02 a.m. ET: Twelve people were killed and at least 50 others wounded early Friday when a gunman wearing a bullet-proof vest opened fire during a midnight screening of the latest Batman movie near Denver, authorities and witnesses said."

Has anyone heard about the Aurora shooting that happened at the midnight screening of the new Batman movie? This is just so sad and disturbing. Makes you lose faith in humanity. I just don't understand why people have to do these things. If you hate your life so much and are so disturbed, take your own life, don't go taking it out on innocent people. I'm a firm believer of an eye for an eye and I hope he has a one way ticket to the prison death house. When you take the life of the innocent, I believe you give up the right to your own.

Then just a couple days ago I was disturbed to see the video of an attempted kidnapping! What is the world coming to?!
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07/20/2012
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Gracie Gracie
This is so very tragic! I dont even have words!
07/20/2012
lilly555 lilly555
This is so scary! To be wearing a bullet proof vest suggests he planned this and it's aweful to think someone thought to themselves that a midnight screening of a popular film was a good place to start shooting people. I am horrified. It is a true crime of evil and immorality when a stranger kills so many random people that they didn't even know because they can. This is chilling.
07/20/2012
Zombirella Zombirella
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Originally posted by lilly555
This is so scary! To be wearing a bullet proof vest suggests he planned this and it's aweful to think someone thought to themselves that a midnight screening of a popular film was a good place to start shooting people. I am horrified. It is a ...
Oh no doubt. He wore a gas mask and brought extra ammo! What disturbed me the most is watching some of the videos posted by the Today Show of witness accounts and people saying that this guy deliberately shot at those trying to escape!
In my small town there were 3 recent shootings close in time to each other. I avoid going down one specific road and neighborhood now because it's so crazy anymore and you can't help but wonder if some nut is out. I can't believe I used to go to this gas station late at night to get a soda or something and then people are gunned down there! Someone just had a gun stuck in their face last week and my friend witnessed it!

I don't even have a child yet but after seeing the video I linked a few days ago, it makes me scared for my future child! I won't be letting my child out of my sight. I already know I'm going to be an overprotective mother. I just don't understand why the parent's let a 10 year old walk with her 2 year old brother? You just can't let children that young out on their own, let alone in charge of a toddler in the world today.

It makes me want to cry anymore
07/20/2012
xMila xMila
That is messed up, I'm sad for all the victims.
07/20/2012
Mwar Mwar
These kind of crimes are the scariest. They're random, and it falls to being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Young children and babies were harmed. It makes me mad and very upset at the situation.
07/20/2012
Kissy Kissy
This brings so many emotions. Anger. Sadness. Confusion. How could someone be so selfish? How did nobody realize this person had major issues? How sad for the families of the injured and dead. Why? It hurts my heart.
07/20/2012
Zombirella Zombirella
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Originally posted by Kissy
This brings so many emotions. Anger. Sadness. Confusion. How could someone be so selfish? How did nobody realize this person had major issues? How sad for the families of the injured and dead. Why? It hurts my heart.
Not much has been released as far as the guy goes but they did say he wasn't on any police watch list or anything.
07/20/2012
puppylove puppylove
I live not far from this, its all over the news right now, watching and seeing what patient updates are. I am in shock, so horrified and sad for all involved. How some one can do this is unbelievable. The police are trying to disarm the guy's booby trapped apt so it's not over yet. Prayers to the family and to the police officers still putting their life on this line to end this horrible event. First the worst wildfires in state history, now this in less than a months time, pray for Colorado.
07/20/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
It's very sad. Tragic. There is no reason for ANYONE to have access to an AK47. They shouldn't be legal in this country.

As for "what is this world coming to?" Nothing. Bad things always happen. This isn't a harbinger, or a sign or anything else. It was a tragedy.

And the American justice system is NOT based on "an eye for an eye." That's ancient Hebrew "justice" system where if you caused an accident where someone lost an eye YOUR eye would be put out as a punishment. Our democratic justice system is based on much better basis than "an eye for an eye."

When this person is found guilty he will subjected to the full extent of OUR laws, not ancient laws based on revenge. Our laws are based, at least in theory, on logic.

As Gandhi once said, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
07/20/2012
Gracie Gracie
During times like this I know I feel more emotional and feel a need to count my blessings. I just want to take a moment to send a virtual hug to all of my eden community and I know will hugging my family a little extra for a while too!
07/20/2012
ghalik ghalik
I heard about this when it happened and they were saying no known fatalities. Gosh, 12 is a lot! Very tragic.
07/20/2012
ejrbrndps ejrbrndps
cant believe that crazy shit! im going to see batman tomorrow, in nyc there is cops at the movies checking people
07/20/2012
- Kira - - Kira -
You know, I've always been paranoid about something like this happening at the movies because if there's gun firing in the film it would be hard to distinguish between the movie and something actually going on. Now I'm even more paranoid.

It hurts my heart to think of the children that were killed and harmed in this. The adults too, of course, but especially the children.
07/20/2012
Lildrummrgurl7 Lildrummrgurl7
This is an absolute tragedy. I was awake when the news first broke and all night/morning I watched the death and injury toll rise. It's sad that people have to fear going to common places now.
07/20/2012
Zombirella Zombirella
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Originally posted by P'Gell
It's very sad. Tragic. There is no reason for ANYONE to have access to an AK47. They shouldn't be legal in this country.

As for "what is this world coming to?" Nothing. Bad things always happen. This isn't a harbinger, ...
Well you are entitled to your opinion but your comment implies that I don't know how the "democratic" system works. I have a bachelor degree in criminal justice, I'm not ignorant of the laws. I'm well aware that the eye for an eye act isn't around anymore I just have zero tolerance for meaningless murder, no if ands or buts about it, which I'm entitled to feel that way despite what the actual laws are so long as I abide by them.
07/20/2012
Zombirella Zombirella
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Originally posted by ejrbrndps
cant believe that crazy shit! im going to see batman tomorrow, in nyc there is cops at the movies checking people
That's crazy. I was a little irritated to see on HLN that they were trying to say that he came dressed as the Joker. Since when did Joker dress in combat gear and have his hair dyed red? The guy made a comment about he was the Joker or something but I just think he is trying to toss the blame at the movie. Then the network was questioning the violence in the Batman series. The MAN is 24 years old, not an adolescent, the violence portrayed in these movies have nothing to do with his actions. I just had a feeling someone was going to try to play the "blame the movie" card.
07/20/2012
pestilence pestilence
This was just awful to hear about this morning. The sad part for me is something like this is so hard to prevent without seriously restricting innocent people's freedom - the most I can think of is to improve mental health care programs and make sure that everyone who has any need to can get easy access to them, but some people like this can function just fine in ordinary life before they start killing and feel no need to get help.

When I first heard the news, I thought "wow, 12 is an unusually high number," until I realized that these people were all packed inside a dark crowded room with plenty of seats in the way of escape. I never realized how much of easy target a crowded movie theater would be. It probably won't stop me from watching movies since such events are so rare & unpredictable, but it definitely made me think.
07/20/2012
pestilence pestilence
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Originally posted by Zombirella
That's crazy. I was a little irritated to see on HLN that they were trying to say that he came dressed as the Joker. Since when did Joker dress in combat gear and have his hair dyed red? The guy made a comment about he was the Joker or something ...
I can't stand when people start blaming fictional violence for real-life violence - especially when the fictional characters and their motives are so divorced from real life ones (like in the Batman series) that anyone encouraged to commit real violence by them has mental illness to blame rather than the fiction itself. Random events like this frighten people and make them want to find something to blame so they can prevent these things from repeating themselves, but focusing your attention on something that is clearly not the problem is a waste of everyone's time & resources and diverts attention away from any possible lasting good that can be done.
07/20/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
The suspect evidently told the police "I am The Joker" and had dyed his hair red shortly before the crime.

I know in Chicago they theatres are now preventing people from wearing costumes to the show. A lot of people CosPlay and there's a huge different between somebody CosPlaying and a guy sneaking in the back exit dressed in bullet proof clothing. Evidently, he bought a ticket, went into the theater early, propped open a back exit door, then donned his gear and "Joker" outfit and got his guns (which he bought completely legally WTF?) sneaked back in the exit door, sat down and waited for the movie to start and then threw the first tear gas canister and started shooting.

The AR15 he had (which was first reported as an AK47) is an automatic rifle that had barrel magazines that hold more than 100 rounds of ammunition. Why THE fuck can anyone go into a Bass Pro Shop and buy a weapon that was made for nothing but mowing down human beings? THAT isn't sport, that's murder.
07/20/2012
Zombirella Zombirella
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Originally posted by P'Gell
The suspect evidently told the police "I am The Joker" and had dyed his hair red shortly before the crime.

I know in Chicago they theatres are now preventing people from wearing costumes to the show. A lot of people CosPlay and ...
That type of firearms has no need for public access. Government and military ONLY is what I think it should be.

It sounds like he was well off, going to get his PHD, smart. I'm interested to know what makes a person like this snap and ruin their life and many others?

I just hope the people involved in searching his home stay safe. I feel bad for those men and women and their families having to hold their breath hoping a deadly explosion doesn't happen at any minute.

I know people do bad things every day, but it's still a shock when you hear about it and hear witness statements, especially when children are involved. It just makes me very sad .
07/20/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Zombirella
That type of firearms has no need for public access. Government and military ONLY is what I think it should be.

It sounds like he was well off, going to get his PHD, smart. I'm interested to know what makes a person like this snap and ruin ...
I agree about the automatic weapons.

Evidently this guy's apartment is/was booby trapped and he did tell the police that much. They have been working for close to 18 hours to disarm it and had to evacuate at least 5 buildings in the process.

I don't think he technically "snapped" (my husband uses this term a lot and I have issues with it. He went insane, no doubt, (but not legally insane, I would imagine) but he had plenty of time to plan) he bought the guns, legally, over a period of several weeks. He propped the door open, knew the layout of the theater (it appears) and planned his crime. That tells me "Intent" I know people use the word "snap" but it appears he didn't actually do that. He's obviously seriously mentally imbalanced, but that can take place over weeks, months or even years.

He's not co-operating with police, but did tell them about the booby trapped apartment. At least no officer of the law has been harmed getting into his apartment, as of yet, they are still trying to gain access while dismantling his traps. Crazy.
07/20/2012
Noelle Noelle
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Originally posted by Zombirella
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"Updated at 9:02 a.m. ET: Twelve people were killed and at least 50 others wounded early Friday when a gunman wearing a bullet-proof vest opened fire during a midnight screening of the latest Batman movie near Denver, authorities and ...
HORRIBLE!!! I am so sad for society that you hear about these things so much. I can't understand it, but then again, I guess it's better I don't understand. VERY SAD, my heart goes out to everyone involved. The suvivors will live with that trama forever.
07/20/2012
Noelle Noelle
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Originally posted by P'Gell
I agree about the automatic weapons.

Evidently this guy's apartment is/was booby trapped and he did tell the police that much. They have been working for close to 18 hours to disarm it and had to evacuate at least 5 buildings in the ...
Agreed, he definately planned this horrible act.
07/20/2012
Errant Venture Errant Venture
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Originally posted by P'Gell
It's very sad. Tragic. There is no reason for ANYONE to have access to an AK47. They shouldn't be legal in this country.

As for "what is this world coming to?" Nothing. Bad things always happen. This isn't a harbinger, ...
Agreed. To continue your point with another quote, Desmond Tutu once said 'To take a life when a life has been lost is revenge, not justice.'
07/23/2012
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