Government plans on killing any wolves theycan find :(

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Government plans on killing any wolves theycan find :(

Blinker Blinker
DISCLAIMER: Before I post anything, I feel like I have to preemptively apologize for anything I say that may offend anyone of any gender, race, creed, sexuality, or anyone from another planet or country. Also, please don't attack my intelligence, or my opinion of what I've posted. If you want to say something, please feel free to do so, but don't bite my head off about it. And I apologize if that statement offends anyone as well.

The Associated Press reports of new plans to all but exterminate the gray wolf population.

"You just have to accept that part of having wolves is having to kill wolves."

Apparently hunters are upset that the animals they hunt FOR SPORT are being killed by wolves, SO THEY CAN FUCKING EAT.

I understand that wolves who are seen by ranchers attacking cattle may be shot. I don't like this, but at least it has some sort of reason, even if I don't agree with it. But gassing wolf pups and sterilizing adult wolves?

They were here first. I've lived in Alaska, and have seen these gorgeous animals in action. Most people there have the sense to stay the fuck away from them, as well as keep their dogs and cats indoors so they won't become prey. Moose attack animals and mess up garden and vegetable beds, but the government isn't going to start killing moose.

Even though the wolves have been moved back on the endangered species list, this is still going to happen.

It's so sad that this country literally has to kill anything that stands in the way of gaining a little more money.



Could you kill these creatures? This makes me so sad.
09/05/2010
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Midway through Midway through
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Originally posted by Blinker
DISCLAIMER: Before I post anything, I feel like I have to preemptively apologize for anything I say that may offend anyone of any gender, race, creed, sexuality, or anyone from another planet or country. Also, please don't attack my intelligence, ...
I feel the same way, but then again, I've always loved nature and every animal that she brings us. I think the humans are the largest abomination of uncaring creatures that she ever begot, however, I respect them too. Simply because it's part of my religion. I still stand against the senseless destruction of animals that we fear.

Anything we fear, don't understand, or decide is in our way must die. Including sharks, but, again, people don't care about sharks either, because they're lurking around every corner ready to eat us as soon as we dip a toe in the ocean right? Wrong.
09/05/2010
kck kck
Um. What.

Ugh.
09/05/2010
Blinker Blinker
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Originally posted by Midway through
I feel the same way, but then again, I've always loved nature and every animal that she brings us. I think the humans are the largest abomination of uncaring creatures that she ever begot, however, I respect them too. Simply because it's part ...
YES. I agree. We need to respect the species we live with, not shoot everything that moves because they have teeth.
09/05/2010
Blinker Blinker
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Originally posted by kck
Um. What.

Ugh.


Angry face says it all.
09/05/2010
Andromeda Andromeda
You know, as a general rule I'm against going to protests and demonstrations, because I truly feel that most people who attend such things really don't even know what they're protesting in any real depth.

HOWEVER

I would so protest this.

It's just disgusting.
09/05/2010
usmcwife99 usmcwife99
Yes, I can kill those beautifull wolves. There cute till they kill your horse. I have shot a few wolves before. I dont like it but ile do it if the need be.

Dont you think we should spend more time worring about the big issues like the rapists in detriot or the murders in new orleans or watever worse crimes are going on then some wolves

personally i think theres better things to protest but thats just me
09/05/2010
twistedheartsx twistedheartsx
This is ABSOLUTELY gross and ridiculous. Stupid stuff like this makes me want to move out of the US.
09/05/2010
Miss Cinnamon Miss Cinnamon
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Originally posted by usmcwife99
Yes, I can kill those beautifull wolves. There cute till they kill your horse. I have shot a few wolves before. I dont like it but ile do it if the need be.

Dont you think we should spend more time worring about the big issues like the rapists ...
Wolves are actually kinda important to the regions they are native to because they are what are known as "keystone predators". In every ecosystem, there are predators that help control the population of the herds they prey on. If you remove a keystone predator from the food/predation web, you end up with an exploding population of prey animals, leading to overharvesting of whatever THEY prey on, whether it be other animals or vegetation. All in all, it's a delicate balance to achieve a healthy, biodiverse community. After wolves were re-introduced to Yellowstone, researchers found that the area actually became more biodiverse, with the return of many other species. So implying that the fate of wolves isn't important isn't accurate.

On the other hand, wolves have recovered to a point where they are becoming a problem for ranchers, which is what happens when territories overlap. Unfortunately, I can't think of a way for both parties to coexist peacefully that doesn't involve controlling the wolf population. Ideally, some sort of scare tactic could be used, or something to completely protect cattle from the wolves, but I haven't heard of any promising solutions from that direction yet. You can't really blame ranchers for getting upset when they lose animals to wolves. You can give them all the good reasons to keep wolves around, but it probably doesn't feel very fair for them to have to lose livestock (and hence, money) just so everyone else can have wolves.

It's a very difficult issue to resolve, but I'm holding out hope that a mutually beneficial solution will be found, one that involves the least killing.
09/05/2010
El-Jaro El-Jaro
I am def. anti-wolf hunting. This isn't the Dark Ages, we don't need to hunt wolves to protect our livestock. Someone mentioned protecting their horses, eh. I'm not going to chime in on that one.

Once the wolves are gone, no one can make any more.
09/05/2010
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by Miss Cinnamon
Wolves are actually kinda important to the regions they are native to because they are what are known as "keystone predators". In every ecosystem, there are predators that help control the population of the herds they prey on. If you remove ...
Pretty much says it all, this is a ongoing issue that has a long way to go.

I would like to add that most hunters do not want to "kill them all", most of the good ones anyways. Those who do are really just looking for some excuse as to why they can not find the "big 8 point buck" just so they can put it on the wall. The rest of us learn to coexist with nature. For me and my family we enjoy the sustenance that Mother nature gives us, and our time with her and all her creatures.

Just my thoughts.
09/05/2010
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Blinker
DISCLAIMER: Before I post anything, I feel like I have to preemptively apologize for anything I say that may offend anyone of any gender, race, creed, sexuality, or anyone from another planet or country. Also, please don't attack my intelligence, ...
This pisses me off. Wolves are not a danger to humans, they are sentient creatures and not only have we had Malamutes for our pets for more than 20 years (they are the dog closest to the Wolf) but one of them was 1/4 wolf (we didn't know this and wouldn't have chosen this, and it's illegal, but we didn't buy from a breeder who was honest with us) but the Wolf is my Totem animal. I Malamutes and I wolves.

Blinker, MANY MANY hugs to you, sweetheart! Have a drink, a cake and a good time with my good wishes.
09/05/2010
Not here Not here
People have a tendency to forget that everything that exists in nature is part of a delicate balance, and once a species becomes extinct, that's it.

I think this is awful. I can somewhat understand ranches shooting a wolf if it attacks their cattle, but there is no reason to brutally kill an innocent animal.

And Blinker, your disclaimer makes me sad. I hope you don't feel like you have to totally censor yourself now I'm certainly not offended!
09/05/2010
usmcwife99 usmcwife99
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Originally posted by Miss Cinnamon
Wolves are actually kinda important to the regions they are native to because they are what are known as "keystone predators". In every ecosystem, there are predators that help control the population of the herds they prey on. If you remove ...
Ime not saying kille very wolf......but when wolves inhabbit on peoples lively hoods it is time for it to be delt with.

I am good friends with a owner of a horse ranch in louisana. He breeds horses, some will go upwards of 50 grand(I dont see why but some people like the show horses), they aint cheap to raise. I was talking to him a few monthes back he said he lost 8 horses in the past several monthes to the wolves. Hes got alot of fence but its hard to fence alot of land from wolves. He now pays someone to stay out by the barns of the horse done come in at night and watch the horses. What makes it worse is that his family has ran that ranch for generations. they havent had the problem with wolves untill they have started buidling outword of the city. Forcing the wolves onto his land. He doesnt care if they keep to themselves but he doesnt want them messing with what he needs to make a living.

The wolf population can be kept, but just not by livestock areas. Let them roam free if there in a national park or something. Just not when there roaming your back yard.
09/05/2010
Not here Not here
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Originally posted by usmcwife99
Ime not saying kille very wolf......but when wolves inhabbit on peoples lively hoods it is time for it to be delt with.

I am good friends with a owner of a horse ranch in louisana. He breeds horses, some will go upwards of 50 grand(I dont see ...
I understand what you're saying, but think about it this way...

*We* are technically the ones in the wolves backyards. They don't understand the difference between their land and ours. They're just doing what is natural for them. Where I live, we don't have wolves, but there are plenty of coyotes. If you don't let your cats in at night, they will get eaten. So, you just make sure the cat (or small dogs) are inside, so they don't get eaten.
09/05/2010
~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
I'm semi-for killing animals in terms of population control, like the White Tail Deer epidemic and the Asian Carp infestation, however this is just fucking stupid. That is not a just reason at all. I also agree with understanding the shooting wolves to protect property like cattle, but the animals being hunted for game are no one's property. GREAT POST BLINKER!
09/05/2010
Blinker Blinker
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Originally posted by Not here
People have a tendency to forget that everything that exists in nature is part of a delicate balance, and once a species becomes extinct, that's it.

I think this is awful. I can somewhat understand ranches shooting a wolf if it attacks ...
Thank you, sweetie!

I don't wanna so much censor myself, but just kind of make sure I cover my bases in case anyone does get offended by anything. I hate stepping on toes.
09/05/2010
Blinker Blinker
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Originally posted by P'Gell
This pisses me off. Wolves are not a danger to humans, they are sentient creatures and not only have we had Malamutes for our pets for more than 20 years (they are the dog closest to the Wolf) but one of them was 1/4 wolf (we didn't know this and ...
*huge bear and wolf hugs for P'Gell*

09/05/2010
usmcwife99 usmcwife99
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Originally posted by Not here
I understand what you're saying, but think about it this way...

*We* are technically the ones in the wolves backyards. They don't understand the difference between their land and ours. They're just doing what is natural for them. ...
And ime doing whats natural for me, protecting my family, land, and possesions
09/13/2010
paralax paralax
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Originally posted by Blinker
DISCLAIMER: Before I post anything, I feel like I have to preemptively apologize for anything I say that may offend anyone of any gender, race, creed, sexuality, or anyone from another planet or country. Also, please don't attack my intelligence, ...
I feel the same way. It really is fucked up how wolf packs have been pushed farther west in America and Canada because of population expansion.

Its really fucked up not just in killing them but doing so in such an inhumane manner. Gassing? Wow. We aren't Germany in the 30's and 40's.
09/21/2010
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