Occupy Wall Street...what now, in November 2011? Leave them alone, Support them, Disperse them, or Arrest them?

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Occupy Wall Street...what now, in November 2011? Leave them alone, Support them, Disperse them, or Arrest them?

Bignuf Bignuf
Here we are, many weeks into the Occupy Wall Street movement and now we get reports of many dozens of rapes, robberies, assaults, hundreds of drug overdose reports, a shooting, and now riots against police, with weapons used. That does not even include the defecation on banks and police cars and the complete multi-million dollar ruin to many public parks and properties. Some may say "those are a few bad eggs", others may say "that is representative of this movement". SO...what is YOUR stance on this after months of these "protests"?
Answers (private voting - your screen name will NOT appear in the results):
I support them, and think they continue to make a valid set of points.
14
Leave the alone, it's America and we are free to protest.
15
Enough is enough, they are costing cities millions, time to disperse them.
3
Time to start arresting them, and shut this thing down, it is nothing but criminal anarchy at this point.
5
Other?
5
Total votes: 42 (31 voters)
Poll is closed
11/13/2011
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Sex'и'Violence Sex'и'Violence
I say break it up and arrest those who wont disperse. It started out a good protest but has been tainted by the communist/anarchist types who want to use it as recruiting ground and public forum for their own views.
11/13/2011
T&A1987 T&A1987
Quote:
Originally posted by Sex'и'Violence
I say break it up and arrest those who wont disperse. It started out a good protest but has been tainted by the communist/anarchist types who want to use it as recruiting ground and public forum for their own views.
With all do respect, communists and anarchists have as much a right to a public forum as anyone else, as long as they are not violent. Obviously whether or not they're violent is unclear at the moment, but one violent protest in CA doesn't mean it's violent in NY, or WI, or VT. America is a free marketplace of ideas and communists and anarchists want a non-violent forum, they have that right. Besides, anarchists, when non-violent, are often hilarious in their arrogance and hubris.
11/13/2011
Ryuson Ryuson
I say arrest the violent and destructive ones, but leave the rest be.
11/13/2011
allybee allybee
they need to go home
11/13/2011
null null
Only arrest those who are breaking laws, but in America we are allowed to protest, and it is important that they are allowed to continue.
11/13/2011
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by T&A1987
With all do respect, communists and anarchists have as much a right to a public forum as anyone else, as long as they are not violent. Obviously whether or not they're violent is unclear at the moment, but one violent protest in CA doesn't ...
Agreed! Nothing changes in this country without people protesting (as evidenced by every civil rights movement we've had). I applaud their tenacity, even if I don't agree with their philosophies. I'm not even sure what their platform is, exactly. But, it obviously means a lot to them to have been at it for a month.
11/13/2011
Rossie Rossie
A few days ago the Portland mayor ordered occupiers to evacuate public parks in downtown, they have been causing a lot of damage in the parks, and also affecting local businesses. Hours after the deadline of 12:01 am today, almost none of them have left. Those people taunted the police by dancing inside and outside the parks, calling the mayor a bluff. It's now 15 hours past the deadline and 15 (or more) arrests have been made, good thing the only violence was one anarchist throwing stuff at an officer.

I'd say to provide a designated area for the real occupiers to continue their peaceful protest, and arrest the rest (homeless and addicts) who are just there to party and mess public spaces up. Don't forget that the damage those people caused in public areas, will be repaired by tax money out of our pockets, so I honestly do not have any respect for them.
11/13/2011
FemmeFlo FemmeFlo
I'm in Oakland at the epicenter of what is going on. I've been to the biggest protests. The "violent" protest was violent because of police violence, not protesters! There are a few anarchist groups who are using this as a platform for their own agendas, and they have done some property damage. But believe it or not, it was the real Occupy Oakland protesters who stopped them, not the police. The Occupy movement does not encourage violence and property damage. It's a peaceful movement. The protests I've been to had parents with their children, teachers, Iraq veterans. People from all walks of life. Because this movement is truly about the 99%.
11/13/2011
Tessa Taboo Tessa Taboo
I don't watch the news, and honestly, this is the first I have heard of this. Can someone fill me in please?
11/14/2011
Rossie Rossie
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Originally posted by Tessa Taboo
I don't watch the news, and honestly, this is the first I have heard of this. Can someone fill me in please?
Here's how it all started: Occupy Wall St., just google "occupy" and you'll learn a lot more about it.
11/14/2011
Ms. Spice Ms. Spice
Quote:
Originally posted by Sex'и'Violence
I say break it up and arrest those who wont disperse. It started out a good protest but has been tainted by the communist/anarchist types who want to use it as recruiting ground and public forum for their own views.
I didn't know that communist/ anarchists types weren't entitled to their views in this country. oh wait, yes they are. they, along with everyone else, are guaranteed the right to protest in the first amendment. trying not to be rude, but everyone's views are, and should be welcome in this country.

i personally think they need a more organized goal in mind, rather than criticize the "1%." Solutions are nice. But everyone is allowed to do what they please. my friend that was a part of the movement and he said that the problem was that they sheltered many of those who caused trouble, and had nothing to do with the movement.

It's stupid to arrest a bunch of people who are sitting in parks and are just partaking in harmless protesting and such, but when the violence gets out of hand, which is evidently happening all over the country, arrests need to happen. however, the only reports of violence I've heard of was police violence, so arrest the police?
11/14/2011
Dusk Dusk
I'm watching various livestreams right now and I'm in tears over what is happening. I'm not usually one to protest and I've laughed at enough protests at UC Berkeley in my time there, but this is police brutality and it is simply WRONG. They're throwing the protesters' belongings in a trash compactor, dragging them away from a peaceful protest, using tear gas on them, and taking away press passes from those there to record the events. This is not free speech, America. It's just not.
11/15/2011
Destri Destri
As long as they are non-violent, I am in total support. I am an actual, lived-in-a-commune hippie from the 70s, and I know that protest is one of the best ways to change things. It is about time that the government paid attention to what is happening to the poor, the disabled, the disadvantaged and the working poor in this country.

I know that the majority of people in this forum are too young to know much about what this country was like before the civil rights movement, before the anti-war protests over Vietnam but I assure you all, protests changed this country in many valuable ways.

What do the other 99% want? How about a living wage for the working poor. How about a decent monthly amount going to disabled people? How about homes for the homeless? Decent care for vets... jobs for the unemployed... better schools and education... dental care and eyeglasses for poor people... decent health care...

It is hard to be poor in this country. I know... I am on SSI and am expected to live on $675 a month. Really? Could you do it? I haven't had a raise in my disability in 2 years, but my bills keep going up. My son has been unemployed for months now... I have been friends with a vet who was living on the streets and had lung cancer. He lost his house when he contracted cancer and lost his job. He died on the street... and he was the sweetest, most caring man I ever met. How is this right?

We need these protests.
11/15/2011
wetone123 wetone123
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Originally posted by Dusk
I'm watching various livestreams right now and I'm in tears over what is happening. I'm not usually one to protest and I've laughed at enough protests at UC Berkeley in my time there, but this is police brutality and it is simply ...
I agree. Too much brutality. It is tear inducing to watch, I cried myself watching the footage of what's going down right now.
11/15/2011
El-Jaro El-Jaro
I support all non-violent/hateful expressions of speech.

Ugh, Oakland...that's just wrong.

Protests are really the first step towards any change. I mean, look at the Tea Party. I'm sure that movement has had an impact on our government. I wonder where we're going to be headed with this.
11/15/2011
P'Gell P'Gell
And every Civil Rights Movement has had their enemies and the press exaggerates their failings. Remember all the horrible things that were said about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr? The lies that were told about the anti-slavery movement? The exaggerations about "rapes and violence" during the anti-Viet Nam War Movement? The press likes the exaggerations, and rarely supports what the protestors are saying.

The press is NOT being at all fair to this movement, mostly because the people who write and "report" the news are part of or close to the "1%" the movement wants to change.

"Freedom to Assemble" doesn't have a time limit. There is nothing in the Constitution that the Assembly has to "go home at dark."
11/15/2011
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by P'Gell
And every Civil Rights Movement has had their enemies and the press exaggerates their failings. Remember all the horrible things that were said about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr? The lies that were told about the anti-slavery movement? The ...
No, but there are local, state and Federal ordinances that state you can't be in public parks after 11 PM. This was originally made law in most cities to keep the homeless from sleeping in the parks on benches and under trees.

(I'm in full support of some butt-kicking in Washington and I applaud these people for sticking it out. Just pointing out facts.)
11/15/2011
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