Should Red-Light Cameras be used to capture suspects in other crimes?

Contributor: PassionateLover2 PassionateLover2
Red-Light Camera's are used by many cities to enforce traffic violations. However, there are certain law enforcement agencies that want to use the red-light camera's to obtain evidence for other criminal activities. Such crimes may be nearby assaults, thefts, or any other non-traffic violations. Do you think that Red-Light Camera's be used to capture suspects in other crimes?
Answers (public voting - your screen name will appear in the results):
Yes
Peggi , Lildrummrgurl7 , v23 , PeaceToTheMiddleEast , Aishiteru , eri86 , Allstars316 , Kallina , Trysexual , Wicked Wahine , Living Doll , Gone (LD29) , Artur Sergachev , LavenderSkies , Bignuf , captainsgirl , U3H , hillys , spiced , potstickers , dv8 , Beautiful-Disaster
22  (73%)
No
spunkmonkey , ViVix , Noelle , Gunsmoke , evie.amor
5  (17%)
Other
PassionateLover2 , Virgingasms , CollegeFun2014
3  (10%)
Total votes: 30
Poll is closed
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Contributor: Lildrummrgurl7 Lildrummrgurl7
I do think they can be useful but we need to be aware of when it becomes too much. Constant surveillance by government agencies everywhere you go is not ideal. In the town I live in, the police did install cameras in a high crime area (right outside the busiest bar on campus) to reduce the amount of fights and what have you. I think that's okay but there definitely needs to be a point where we draw a line.
03/28/2013
Contributor: PassionateLover2 PassionateLover2
I voted Other. In my opinion, I think Red-Light cameras are a violation of my civil rights at traffic sites. There has been considerable legal debate, of late, that question the intent of such devises.

However, I agree that cameras, in general, should be used to capture criminal conduct; or at least deter such activity in public areas. It is interesting that the ACLU is against the use of Red-Light cameras for such 'other' criminal activity other than traffic violations! It is hard for me to understand what the ACLU sees in the difference!

Apparently, rather than the Red-light cameras being use by 'local authorities', there is an attempt for State or even Federal agencies to use the video tape as evidence in their crime fighting endeavors.
03/28/2013
Contributor: spunkmonkey spunkmonkey
I don't think so.
03/28/2013
Contributor: MrWill MrWill
Quote:
Originally posted by PassionateLover2
I voted Other. In my opinion, I think Red-Light cameras are a violation of my civil rights at traffic sites. There has been considerable legal debate, of late, that question the intent of such devises.

However, I agree that cameras, in ... more
Why are cameras at red lights an infringement of your rights?

I'm just curious about the workings of your mind on this subject?

I wholeheartedly agree that cameras all over the place is ridiculous, but what makes you feel how you feel?
03/28/2013
Contributor: Aishiteru Aishiteru
It doesn't seem like a bad idea to me.
03/29/2013
Contributor: Allstars316 Allstars316
Yes I think they should
03/29/2013
Contributor: Trysexual Trysexual
I think its ok to use them for an assault or something of that nature, but for giving out traffic tickets, I think they are BS. 90% of the profits go to private enterprise, not the local community anyway, but that's another issue. It's scary enough we have for-profit prisions.
03/29/2013
Contributor: Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
I think they should use whatever evidence they have to catch & prosecute crime. They will determine it's admissibility in court.
03/29/2013
Contributor: ViVix ViVix
Quote:
Originally posted by PassionateLover2
Red-Light Camera's are used by many cities to enforce traffic violations. However, there are certain law enforcement agencies that want to use the red-light camera's to obtain evidence for other criminal activities. Such crimes may be nearby ... more
Why don't we watch everyone all the time? It'll cut down on crime, after all! Hopefully, you catch my sarcasm.
03/29/2013
Contributor: Hummingbird Hummingbird
Just wait until the little flying drones with camera begin to buz overhead. Big brother will really be watching then.
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03/29/2013
Contributor: CollegeFun2014 CollegeFun2014
How would this even work? The cameras are only activated when a car passes over the white line at an intersection. Therefore a person committing a crime would have to be crossing the line (assuming that would even set it off) at the exact moment of the crime or the crime would have to be in the background when a car runs a light.
03/29/2013
Contributor: Artur Sergachev Artur Sergachev
Yes
03/29/2013
Contributor: LavenderSkies LavenderSkies
Quote:
Originally posted by PassionateLover2
Red-Light Camera's are used by many cities to enforce traffic violations. However, there are certain law enforcement agencies that want to use the red-light camera's to obtain evidence for other criminal activities. Such crimes may be nearby ... more
Absolutely yes!
03/29/2013
Contributor: Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by PassionateLover2
Red-Light Camera's are used by many cities to enforce traffic violations. However, there are certain law enforcement agencies that want to use the red-light camera's to obtain evidence for other criminal activities. Such crimes may be nearby ... more
Why not? Innocent have nothing to fear. Makes the streets safer for the honest folks and the cameras are already there!!! We paid for them.
03/29/2013
Contributor: Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by CollegeFun2014
How would this even work? The cameras are only activated when a car passes over the white line at an intersection. Therefore a person committing a crime would have to be crossing the line (assuming that would even set it off) at the exact moment of ... more
There are a lot of "full time" monitored traffic cams. Other cities now have specific "anti crime" cams too.
03/29/2013
Contributor: Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by Hummingbird
Just wait until the little flying drones with camera begin to buz overhead. Big brother will really be watching then.
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In some places they already are. Again, however, what do the honest people have to fear??? Increased safety, because criminals now must hide? None of this worries me.
03/29/2013
Contributor: RonLee RonLee
I for one do not believe that redlight cameras should exist at all.
03/29/2013
Contributor: RonLee RonLee
Quote:
Originally posted by Bignuf
In some places they already are. Again, however, what do the honest people have to fear??? Increased safety, because criminals now must hide? None of this worries me.
Nibbling away at what is left of the fourth amendment of the constitution is what concerns me.
03/29/2013
Contributor: hillys hillys
Might not be a bad idea. As long as they arn't invading privacy
03/29/2013
Contributor: PassionateLover2 PassionateLover2
Quote:
Originally posted by MrWill
Why are cameras at red lights an infringement of your rights?

I'm just curious about the workings of your mind on this subject?

I wholeheartedly agree that cameras all over the place is ridiculous, but what makes you feel how you feel?
The question is that the use of red-light cameras are for traffic violations only, period!! Any other use is "Nibbling away at what is left of the fourth amendment of the Constitution is what concerns me." as mentioned by contributor 'RonLee'.

It is a 'slippery slope' when you allow the Government (a/k/a big brother) to continue to infringe or exceed the intent upon your civil liberties; how far do you allow such conduct to impact your rights. Let public hearings debate what is or isn't going to be used by such devises! That, my friend is the response to your question "I'm just curious about the workings of your mind on this subject?"

If the red-light cameras are to be used for 'more' than traffic violations, then let public hearings, debate, or your representative legislation make that determination!!
03/29/2013
Contributor: spiced spiced
I don't like red-light cameras, or speed cameras, for the same 4th amendment reasons you cited, but if they're already in place, then I say let them be used to capture people committing actual crimes, not just to milk regular people for extra ticket money. But better yet, get rid of them altogether.
03/29/2013
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
I've been shocked - the City of San Diego and Poway have both turned off their red-light cameras. They admitted that they were just revenue measures and did nothing to improve safety - in some cases accidents increased. Since most of the revenue was going to the red-light camera companies, the politicians pulled the plug! Imagine that!
03/30/2013
Contributor: PassionateLover2 PassionateLover2
Quote:
Originally posted by Gunsmoke
I've been shocked - the City of San Diego and Poway have both turned off their red-light cameras. They admitted that they were just revenue measures and did nothing to improve safety - in some cases accidents increased. Since most of the revenue ... more
What a revelation! I hope it catches on in other Cities!
04/01/2013
Contributor: Incendiaire Incendiaire
We have a complete CCTV culture in the UK; you can't go anywhere without a camera snapping you. It's slightly disturbing, and on the whole it doesn't seem to improve security to any great degree.
04/01/2013
Contributor: Beautiful-Disaster Beautiful-Disaster
Yes.
04/05/2013
Contributor: evie.amor evie.amor
No, I don't want 1984 to happen any sooner than it already is. *cough* Drones approved to use against Americans *cough*
04/05/2013