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Speculate With Me?

Ansley Ansley
Okay, so I live in an apartment and there is a unit below me. For the last week there has been some heavy construction going on down there. It's making me extremely curious and I've explored a few theories, but to be honest I'm completely baffled. Why? Because yesterday they were replacing the sub-floor. Huge sheets of plywood were being cut and there was all kinds of pounding in what sounded like the bathroom area.

Okay, these are the things I do know:

- We filed a noise complaint due to some extreme thumping and bumping beginning at 9 AM coming from that apartment. This was two weeks ago. Everything was cool, heard a little bit of noise from the apartment this past Saturday. There was definitely someone living there.

- These apartments are fairly new. We're on a bit of the property that gets a ton of sun on both the front and the back of the building. I've pretty much ruled out mold being the issue.

- Everything in these apartments, save for the sub-floor and drywall, are pre-fab. Due to ADA laws and guidelines, all of the apartments on the first floor are designed to be accessible to the handicapped. I can't see a situation where they need to customize anything.

- There has been no police or EMT presence, therefore homicide/suicide has been ruled out.

I've got nothing. I cannot figure out what these people could have possibly done to destroy this apartment to the point of needing a new sub-floor. It just does not make a single lick of sense to me.

So, Edenites, help me figure this out. Just what exactly did my neighbors do to warrant such renovation?

(We will be asking the leasing office about it to satisfy our burning curiosity. If you're wondering why we're so interested, it's because the girl who lived above us for awhile trashed her apartment so badly, WE had flies in our apartment. Just all of a sudden one day, there were like 30 flies hanging out on the door to the balcony. We searched our place high and low, found nothing. We have central air, so the duct work is interconnected. It was beyond gross. They replaced everything when she moved out - the carpet, the linoleum, and cabinets.)
01/25/2013
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charmedtomeetyou charmedtomeetyou
Maybe they overflowed the tub or something? every day.....for a few weeks....

We had a crack in our tub, which just sort of happened one day randomly. It caused us to replace the subfloor in our bathroom.
01/25/2013
charmedtomeetyou charmedtomeetyou
Oo..Oo....do they have pets? Maybe a dog that they kept in the bathroom while they were at work? and the dog chewed up the bathroom and subfloor?

I do love a mystery!
01/25/2013
shorejen9 shorejen9
Perhaps their toilet was left running all day and seeped into the floor and it all had to be replaced.????
01/25/2013
Voir Voir
They could have merely petitioned to have the room redone for aesthetic reasons if that is possible.
01/25/2013
P'Gell P'Gell
A couple of things, My Man does a lot of construction around our home and I'm used to pounding and saw noises at all hours of the day. He's revamped nearly every room in our house, and even minor renovations are loud and can take a lot of time.

My first guess: Mold and or wood rot. Mold can grow very quickly. Even small amounts of water can rot wood fast. Even a brand new toilet can leak fresh (or not fresh) water into the subfloor and require a complete overhaul of the room, including replacing the subfloor, the toilet and other fixtures. We had it happen to us recently & we didn't even realize the mold and deteriorated wood was under the toilet, or that the toilet was leaking fresh water and destroying the subfloor, because the laminate flooring looked good! It was a major project. Mold can grow in a matter of weeks or even days and when it starts to grow everything touched by it, along with the wood that has become rotten from the water damage has to be replaced. This can happen even in a brand new home. (Especially if sub par fixtures were installed, but leaking can occur even good quality toilets and other fixtures if they are not installed the right way or if there is even a minor problem with anything from the wax ring to matching the bottom of the fixtures to the flooring with no gaps to poor silicone or latex sealing.)

My second guess: They simply wanted something new, perhaps a Jacuzzi tub or a toilet with a different footprint than the one originally there. Both of these would require removal of some, if not all of the subfloor. Jacuzzis need lots of room for the works, (we have one upstairs, my husband installed it himself) and the floor needs to be removed to get the works installed. Also, a toilet with a larger footprint than the original may require removal of the floor.

I could be wrong, but I guess it is one of the two above situations.
01/25/2013
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Voir
They could have merely petitioned to have the room redone for aesthetic reasons if that is possible.
Not even remotely likely. That's like asking the Pope to not be Catholic.
01/25/2013
P'Gell P'Gell
I wanted to add one thing.

How much "sun" a room gets has no bearing on mold growth. It may easily grow between the tile, vinyl flooring or laminate flooring and the subfloor (where the sun don't shine,) and may not even be detected until the wood starts to fail. Our downstairs bathroom has Southern exposure and we had a terrible under the laminate wood rot and mold problem in a very short time. We didn't even realize the toilet was leaking fresh water into the subfloor until I noticed the toilet was tilting and My Man removed it and saw the damage. It happened very quickly.
01/25/2013
Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by P'Gell
A couple of things, My Man does a lot of construction around our home and I'm used to pounding and saw noises at all hours of the day. He's revamped nearly every room in our house, and even minor renovations are loud and can take a lot of ...
We aren't allowed to make any design changes in the apartments. If we paint the walls, we have to repaint them before we leave. If we install a ceiling fan or a light fixture in the living room or bedroom, it stays (and we have to pay $75 to do it). This a complex owned by a huge property management group.
01/25/2013
P'Gell P'Gell
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
We aren't allowed to make any design changes in the apartments. If we paint the walls, we have to repaint them before we leave. If we install a ceiling fan or a light fixture in the living room or bedroom, it stays (and we have to pay $75 to do ...
Then it was probably water damage. Management companies have been sued millions for people getting sick from mold exposure. Most are fairly fast about getting in and getting rid of mold, rotted wood and failing subfloors.

Like I said, a toilet (or a sink or a tub) can leak water under the tile or vinyl floor, into the subfloor and do thousands of dollars in damage (not to mention causing the growth of mold) in a short period of time. Especially if the fixtures were faulty (ie cheap,) not properly installed or not properly waterproofed.
01/25/2013
travelnurse travelnurse
I bet water damage.
01/25/2013
Rod Ronald Rod Ronald
I would say water damage as well. Maybe a toilet overflowed? Or a sink or tub.
01/25/2013
Ansley Ansley
Blah, always a practical answer. But, hey as long as they weren't building a meth lab I should be thankful.
01/25/2013
Mr. E Mr. E
My guess would also be water damage. Several years ago we had a pipe burst. We ended up needing to replace all of our hardwood floors downstairs. We had to live in a hotel for 2 weeks while they did the work.
01/25/2013
Ansley Ansley
Now the pounding is coming from the kitchen. We haven't received notification the water would be shut off to deal with the problem, which if it was an issue with the toilet we would be notified that there would be some temporary disruption throughout the project, intermittently of course.

Now, I'm wondering if the sprinkler system was set off and that is what caused the damage. I do recall hearing a smoke alarm last week.
01/25/2013
Mr. E Mr. E
Ahhh, the smoke alarm...so that changes things. It could be both water damage and fire damage.

Or maybe they are just reinforcing the walls to keep out

...the ZOMBIES!
01/25/2013
Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr. E
Ahhh, the smoke alarm...so that changes things. It could be both water damage and fire damage.

Or maybe they are just reinforcing the walls to keep out

...the ZOMBIES!
The smoke alarms in this apartment are ridiculous. The closest smoke alarm to the kitchen is down the hallway and around a bend. I accidentally set the toaster oven on fire one night while I was in the bedroom (I just simply lost track of time) and the entire kitchen was filled with smoke with fire coming out of the actual oven. I smelled the smoke/fire way, way before the smoke alarm ever would have gone off.
01/25/2013
Mr. E Mr. E
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Originally posted by Ansley
The smoke alarms in this apartment are ridiculous. The closest smoke alarm to the kitchen is down the hallway and around a bend. I accidentally set the toaster oven on fire one night while I was in the bedroom (I just simply lost track of time) and ...
OMG! Be careful.

Did you know that if you put on a pot of water to boil and then forget about it and leave it on, the water will all evaporate and you can actually melt the aluminum disk right off the bottom of the pan? Yep, I hear that it takes about 2 hours.
01/25/2013
Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr. E
OMG! Be careful.

Did you know that if you put on a pot of water to boil and then forget about it and leave it on, the water will all evaporate and you can actually melt the aluminum disk right off the bottom of the pan? Yep, I hear that it ...
OMG! I have never done that but my husband will not let me live down the toaster oven for anything. Brings it up every time I make a stupid mistake in the kitchen. Maybe he has reason to worry? I was trying to pull a pizza out of the oven Thursday evening and dropped the mitt on the element, where it immediately proceeded to immediately catch on fire. Ooops.
01/25/2013
married with children married with children
I would say water damage. My guess is that the sub floor is made from OSB plywood. That type of plywood is just chips of wood pressed together. It does not like water very much and can get damaged with just a little flood. My guess is that something was leaking, the toilet or tub, and caused damage to the subfloor.
01/25/2013
js250 js250
Water damage, pet pee residue in the subfloor or possibly biological fluids from a person who was...unable to make it to the bathroom either by choice or physically incapable. Maybe, if it is ADA compliant, they need to install new ramps, etc. to go along with the handicapper's needs. Our house had to get partially redone by the VA for my dad's electric cart and wheelchair.

(You had a murder mystery started--but no EMT or police shot that one down....)
01/25/2013
Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by js250
Water damage, pet pee residue in the subfloor or possibly biological fluids from a person who was...unable to make it to the bathroom either by choice or physically incapable. Maybe, if it is ADA compliant, they need to install new ramps, etc. to go ...
Our ramps are concrete. It's a good guess though.
01/25/2013
Khanner Khanner
It is winter, maybe a pipe froze and burst? Or they're just hiding Jimmy Hoffa's corpse.
01/25/2013
spiced spiced
I have no clue...but here's the theme song for this discussion: link

01/25/2013
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr. E
Ahhh, the smoke alarm...so that changes things. It could be both water damage and fire damage.

Or maybe they are just reinforcing the walls to keep out

...the ZOMBIES!
I'm going to go with Zombies....and you should support the renovations since it might well save you when the zombies come. ~nods yup that's the reason I am just certain!
01/25/2013
SneakersAndPearls SneakersAndPearls
Sane but boring answer: Water damage.

More colorful answer: Your landlord has made your downstairs neighbor disappear Tell-Tale Heart style.

Even more fun answer: Aliens have infiltrated your building. Welcome your new alien overlords.
01/25/2013
SneakersAndPearls SneakersAndPearls
Dear Husband adds, "Elephants having sex."
01/25/2013
Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by SneakersAndPearls
Sane but boring answer: Water damage.

More colorful answer: Your landlord has made your downstairs neighbor disappear Tell-Tale Heart style.

Even more fun answer: Aliens have infiltrated your building. Welcome your new alien overlords.
That's my favorite work by Poe!!!! Brownie points for you!
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