To circumcise or not?!

Contributor: indiglo indiglo
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Originally posted by dv8
Circumcision causes the glans of the penis to become rough and dry, via a process called keratinization. (Click the link for before/after photos.) more info ... more
Really proves what an important role the foreskin plays! And proves that the penis was meant to be an internal organ, always protected away in its sheath of skin so it isn't damaged. When we change how the body works, by removing an important part of it that serves a purpose, there will be repercussions.

The sad thing with circumcision is that 1 person makes the choice, while another person deals with the repercussions.
01/12/2013
Contributor: indiglo indiglo
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Originally posted by *Ashley*
I'm in the 'other' category. I have never been with an uncircumcised man. My son, now 2, is circumcised. It's helpful to me because my son is easier to keep clean.
It's a myth that an intact penis is "difficult to care for". It's actually much EASIER to care for than a circumcised penis. (Especially with the care that must be taken while the circumcision heals.)

At 2, an intact penis requires no additional care compared to a circumcised penis. The foreskin retracts on its own, sometimes not until a boy is well into his teens. Foreskin should never be forcibly retracted by anyone.

Just remember the adage "Only clean what is seen". An intact penis on a baby requires NO special care or cleaning. That's how a boy's body is supposed to be, so it takes care of itself and does NOT cause complications. Circumcision is what causes complications.

Hope this helps!
01/12/2013
Contributor: indiglo indiglo
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Originally posted by roskat
These pro circumcision myths/lies are very deeply ingrained into people's minds in USA. Sadly it's evident even in this discussion.
That is so true. Even though I know these myths/lies are deeply ingrained, I still sometimes find it very surprising to hear them said with such conviction. Sadly, even most pediatricians don't know about intact penises. I can't tell you the number of experiences I've heard & read where someone's pediatrician told them they needed to retract the baby's foreskin and clean the penis with each diaper change! The lack of awareness is still just shocking to me.

I would love it if there were more foreskin education.
01/12/2013
Contributor: evie.amor evie.amor
From a girls stand point; Yeah gunk can get built up under there, but as long as a the guy washes well it isn't a problem with me. I've been with guys who were and who weren't circumcised, if I love a person I love everything about them.
02/12/2013
Contributor: gwenevieve gwenevieve
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Originally posted by Jamesey
My little three month old is still uncircumcised, due to the fact that he was born early and they were unable to do it then, and now we just don't know what to do. Men, are you circumcised? And is it that big of a deal? I can't see hurting ... more
there is no point for it

my husband LOATHES the fact that he was circumsised and actually HATES and will NEVER FORGIVE his parents for doing it. lke, it's a big deal.

let your son make his own choices when he's ready! it's his body
02/12/2013
Contributor: big b big b
cut
02/12/2013
Contributor: gwenevieve gwenevieve
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Originally posted by ACTION6070
Men That Arn't circumcised , have the possiblty of getting rash, fungus and diesse..
I'm not a doctor , But I have read up a bit .
I had my son done when he was born .
Just my opinion...Scott
This is not true. Your body wouldn't give itself parts that aren't necessary to it.

Think about it- he's going to have an open wound sitting in a diaper full of pee and poo. Do you REALLY think there is more of a risk of him getting an infection if he DOESN'T cut his dick?

As long as you wash your body like a normal human being, you will be fine. Like any other person, don't wash yourself, and you WILL indeed become nasty. These are widespread rumors caused by stupid religion and the U.S hospitals.

People in other countries DO NOT circumcise! And if they do, it's when the man is old enough to make his own decision!

It is NOT your body, you do NOT choose what to cut off and what to keep!
02/12/2013
Contributor: RedGlitter RedGlitter
I couldn't do that to my son (IF I had one).

My fiancé is NOT circumcised, and everything is fine!

As a matter of fact, I know someone who had this son circumcised...doctors botched it SOO BAD!
Poor kid, almost turned into a girl...Not funny....
02/13/2013
Contributor: 1001 Pleasures 1001 Pleasures
I was circumcised at birth and have never had an issue with it. I know other guys who were cut and now regret that they have no foreskin, some to the point where they are using techniques to try and restore it. My father and his brother were left uncut, but each developed issues later in life (foreskin too tight) that required a mid-life circumcision, so I'm kind of grateful that it's not something I'd have to endure as an adult if I was facing a similar issue with a tight foreskin.
03/07/2013
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
I wasn't sure how to vote on this. I'm a nurse and a Lactation Consultant and parent educator. I am strongly against routine circumcision. I don't think a potentially dangerous, invasive, painful and possibly deadly procedure, used ONLY for cosmetic reasons should be performed on male babies just because "we've always done it." (At least half a dozen baby boys per year in the USA have such severe damage done to their penises that actual removal of the penis is required. THAT Is something that most OBs are not going to tell you before they put that clamp on your kid's penis or go at him with a knife. (OBs do the majority of circs, as it is a surgical procedure and REQUIRES anesthetic. Pediatricians are not trained to do this procedure, as they are usually not surgeons and ANYONE who would even attempt to do this for any reason without a full pudendal block (a dangerous regional anesthetic for infants, but better than just tearing away and cutting into at their innocent little penises with NO pain relief) should have their medical license revoked for cruelty.)

We haven't "always done it." In the USA, circumcision was not done in the majority of the population until the Victorian Era, when it was believed that circing would "reduce masturbation." It is also known that intact men have better and more intense sensation, so, of course, the Victorians would want to reduce just about anything that made sex better.

Most of Europe and the rest of the world (with the exception of Muslim and Jewish nations) do not circ, and they have no higher rates of any illnesses ect. (And the "not circing causes AIDS" bullshit in some studies in Africa have been proven to have been tampered with, and had the results skewed to meet the end that the people who performed the studies wanted. Men with INTACT penises are no more likely to get AIDS than men who are cut up.) Intact men are no less "clean" than cut up men, and an intact penis requires no more care than an intact female labia. We don't believe (in this country) in cutting up the labia or clitorises of little girls, there should be no reason to perform a similar operation (and it IS a surgical procedure) on little boys.

As a nurse, I refuse to assist in circumcisions, and have seen some horrible things done to little boys in the past based on nothing more than cosmetic preference.

If we had had little boys, they would have remained intact. Most of my friends little boys are intact and either clinically (as a nurse) or socially, I have rarely seen issues with foreskins that cannot be fixed with gentle manipulation and perhaps a short round of ointments. And MOST intact boys don't even have any need for these interventions.

IMO, the Good Lord wouldn't have given men a body part if they didn't need it.

To the OP; you won't regret leaving your little boy the way he was born. One caveat: DO NOT LET ANYONE pull his foreskin back before it will retract on its own. This will happen anytime between 2 and 14 years of age. Most boys will gently be able to retract their own foreskins by themselves as they see fit. Forcefully pulling, tearing or rolling of the foreskin is the main things that cause scar tissue, penile problems and are also the main reason that people claim "My son needed a circ at 3 years of age." In cases like this, someone most likely tore the frenulum and damaged the little boy. This could have been resolved by treating it as an INJURY (and not performing a full removal of the foreskin) but too many American doctors have not been trained to repair foreskin injuries, and resort to full denudation. This makes about as much sense as removing the outside of your ear if you get a case of Swimmer's Ear (but [italic|it makes it easier to clean!") and is about as ethical.
03/07/2013
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by brevado
I would never date an uncircumcised guy
WTF?

What if a guy you dated wanted you to have your inner and outer labia removed or he would "refuse" to date you?

EDUCATE yourself. Circumcision is a vicious, dangerous, harmful, painful procedure with NO benefits.
03/07/2013
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by dv8
EdenFantasys' forums strike me as supportive of sexual pleasure. So WHY would people who like sex toys even consider circumcision? Circumcision removes the foreskin and much of the penile frenulum and, with them, all their thousands of nerve ... more
Thank you, dv8.

This paragraph hit me hard and with truth: Circumcision causes the glans to become dry and make the epithelium thicker with age, akin to scar tissue. Feel the soft moist mucosal tissue on your lips, inside your mouth or inside your vagina; now comapre that to the skin under your feet

My husband was circumcised shortly after his birth 50 some odd years ago. He, of course, was not asked. He is now (and has been for years) suffering from this keratinization of his penis. He LIVES on antifungal ointments, creams and sprays. He has days on end (one requiring a visit to an Urgent Care center because he thought he had a UTI) in pain, with peeling, cracking skin on his penis. All because his parents simply did "what they were told." They are infamous for going along with the status quo, and he and I now pay the price for their refusal to think for themselves.

I LOVE giving him head, but don't care for the flaking,cracking, chipping skin that has to be broken through before I can get to the softer skin under it. And this has to be done, now, virtually every time we have sex. It is getting worse as he gets older and is not only causing him pain, but has caused repeated infections due to raw skin being exposed when the keratinized tissue has to be abraded. (The doctor said "This is normal for a man your age." I asked if it was "Normal" for an intact man. The doctor didn't know what I was talking about. I reiterated and said, "Is this "normal" in a man who wasn't circumcised." The doctor said, "Yeah, well that smegma stuff usually prevents this 'normal' cracking." DUDE, "that smegma stuff" is supposed to be there to protect the penis similar to how women have normal secretions in their vaginas, and through glands in their labia. The doctor left and was still clueless, thinking this abnormal skin condition my husband has is "normal."

I wish (and so does he) that his parents had left him as he was born, perfect and intact.
03/07/2013
Contributor: TJtheMadHatter TJtheMadHatter
My husband and I both were in agreement to have my son circumcised. My dad insisted on paying for it. We're not religious.
03/10/2013
Contributor: Cosmonaut Cosmonaut
You do what you feel is best.

I chose that it matters only because of this traumatizing incident I dealt with.

So this happened. This friend I knew in high school and I were playing video games at his house in the living room. No, we did not have sex or were even going to have sex. So, as we were playing some Dragon Ball Z game, he said "ouch" a few times while playing and the last "ouch" he looked at his crotch and there was a blood pool on his jeans. He unzips his pants in panic and all we see is blood surrounding the area of his penis, balls, etc... He passes out and continues to bleed everywhere. I rushed to the bathroom to get a towel and then I applied pressure. After stopping the bleeding some, I looked to see if I could find where he was bleeding. When I removed the pressure, I saw that he was uncircumcised and that the frenulum had tore. Not only that, the smell was god-awful and there was an insane amount smegma. You have no idea O.O... The only thing that kept me from vomiting was trying to think medically and pretend I was a nurse to help him. So, I kept the towel on it and eventually got him to wake up for him to take care of it. I believe he had a short frenulum and, by the look of it, did not clean it well if ever. That really disturbed me....a lot. =/ Poor guy.

It cannot be unseen.

Moral of the story, make sure your child knows how to take care of it properly...else some poor friend in their early teens might have to deal with it. If he has a short frenulum, get that fixed.
03/10/2013
Contributor: Chastity Darling Chastity Darling
I wasn't sure how to vote

I don't have a son but my husband is circumcised. We went back and forth about this before we knew my squishy bear was a girl. I do not feel it is necessary and he is on the fence.
03/10/2013
Contributor: purpledesert purpledesert
It doesn't matter, though I would not circumcise my child.
03/10/2013
Contributor: ~BabyCakes~ ~BabyCakes~
Doesn't matter.
03/10/2013
Contributor: bayosgirl bayosgirl
If our child is a boy, we will NOT be circumcising, for many of the reasons people have already said.
03/10/2013
Contributor: SecondStory SecondStory
I wouldn't circumcise him but that's just me.
03/10/2013
Contributor: jr2012 jr2012
I (as a female) don't love the idea of it. If it were just up to me, I wouldn't do it.

However, I asked my (male) S.O. and he said he would definitely do it to his child, saying that since the majority of kids in are area are circumsised, and he is as well. He thinks it would be confusing for a kid to see himself as different from his father and peers.

I admit I would bow to his feelings on this one, as a person who actually owns a penis!
03/10/2013
Contributor: Llewey Llewey
Ultimately, it should be the child's decision. I am very firmly anti-circumcision.
03/10/2013
Contributor: Jax Jackson Jax Jackson
I don't think you should.
03/10/2013
Contributor: "G" "G"
Do it, he'll be made fun of for having a needle dick if you dont
03/10/2013
Contributor: I Am Sherlocked I Am Sherlocked
I say don't. Don't alter his body- if the time comes when he's older, he can make that decision for himself. No need to risk regretting it later on
03/11/2013
Contributor: joiedejouets joiedejouets
It doesn't matter to me, I think you shouldn't circumcise after a certain age though.
03/11/2013
Contributor: dv8 dv8
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Originally posted by jr2012
I (as a female) don't love the idea of it. If it were just up to me, I wouldn't do it.

However, I asked my (male) S.O. and he said he would definitely do it to his child, saying that since the majority of kids in are area are ... more
Bodily mutilation to fit in with everyone? Talk about peer pressure.
03/12/2013
Contributor: Bubba29 Bubba29
i am circumcised so i have no perspective otherwise on cleanliness and sensation. i would go based on women's opinions. i would not want a dick women are grossed out by.
03/12/2013
Contributor: kaykay0427 kaykay0427
It didn't matter to me when I had my son, but my fiancee wanted him circumcised because he is.
03/12/2013
Contributor: Alyona Alyona
Circumcised [men]
03/12/2013
Contributor: LoganAshlee. LoganAshlee.
Men should always be!
03/12/2013