What are your feelings on dancing?

wetone123 wetone123
What are your feelings on the police brutality and arrest of many, including Adam Kokesh at the Jefferson Memorial for simply dancing on 5/28/2011? Note: No loud or any music was involved excepting the people with headphones on.

What do you think Thomas Jefferson, being the foremost champion of freedom of speech and expression would have thought about this?
Answers (public voting - your screen name will appear in the results):
It is fine that peaceful dancing people can be body slammed, choked and arrested in this country
It is essential that peaceful dancing folk be body slammed, choked and arrested in this country
It is unconstitutional that peaceful dancing folk are body slammed, choked and arrested in this country
Kdlips , salaciousrex , Darling Jen , AYoungHomeWifey , kittychilla , wetone123 , Ms. Paprika , Ansley , Owl Identified , KaraSutra , Ms. Spice , Eva Schwaltz , FreeAsMyHair , B8trDude , ac0313 , T&A1987 , Do emu
17
Thomas Jefferson would have approved that this brutality happened at his memorial
Owl Identified
1
Thomas Jefferson would have disapproved of the brutality that happened at his memorial
AYoungHomeWifey , wetone123 , Ms. Paprika , B8trDude , ac0313
5
Thomas Jefferson would have joined in on the dancing if he could have
dv8 , AYoungHomeWifey , kittychilla , wetone123 , Ms. Paprika , Ms. Spice , Eva Schwaltz , B8trDude , ac0313 , Do emu
10
Thomas Jefferson would have body slammed, choked, arrested and likely spit upon these people dancing at his memorial
Owl Identified
1
I could not care less about freedom in my country
I care a lot about freedom in my country
Darling Jen , AYoungHomeWifey , wetone123 , Ms. Paprika , Ansley , Owl Identified , Eva Schwaltz , B8trDude , Do emu
9
This is an outrage of our constitutional rights
salaciousrex , Darling Jen , markeagleone , AYoungHomeWifey , kittychilla , wetone123 , Ms. Paprika , Ansley , B8trDude , ac0313 , Do emu
11
I could not care less about our constitutional rights
We should lose more of our constitutional rights
Total votes: 54 (19 voters)
Poll is closed
05/31/2011
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05/31/2011
El-Jaro El-Jaro
What's the whole story here?
05/31/2011
wetone123 wetone123
From ABC news:


The U.S. Park Police are investigating whether
excessive force was used in the arrest of five
protesters Saturday, who silently danced in the
interior of the Jefferson Memorial to protest a recent
ruling against dancing at federal monuments.

Videos posted to YouTube over the weekend show
park police officers in light blue polo shirts
handcuffing dancers. It looked as if one protester,
who was wearing a "Disobey" T-shirt, had been body-
slammed by an officer, and choked.

In a YouTube video of Saturday's incident, when a
police officer asked the protestors which one of them
was the leader, a member of the group pointed toward
the statue of Thomas Jefferson inside the rotunda.

"I'll give you a warning," the officer said calmly. "If
you come out here and you demonstrate by dancing,
you will be placed under arrest. ... Does everybody
understand that?"

Groups looking to protest at federal monuments are
required to obtain permits.

Park Police spokesman Sgt. David Schlosser told the
Associated Press Monday that the Park Police chief
had directed the Office of Professional Responsibility
to conduct an investigation into the officers' conduct.

The dancers were protesting a January 2011 decision
by a federal judge who'd ruled that dancing quietly at
the memorial was an illegal demonstration and not an
expression of free speech.

On April 12, 2008, on the eve of Jefferson's 265th
birthday, 17 dancers wore headphones and silently
sashayed around the interior of the memorial. One
woman was arrested. Although criminal charges
against her were dropped, one of the other protesters
filed a suit against the U.S. Park Service, claiming the
arrest was illegal.

"The purpose of the memorial is to publicize Thomas
Jefferson's legacy, so that critics and supporters alike
may contemplate his place in history," U.S. District
Judge John Bates wrote in his decision.

"Prohibiting demonstrations is a reasonable means of
ensuring a tranquil and contemplative mood at the
Jefferson Memorial," he wrote.
05/31/2011
wetone123 wetone123
Quote:
Originally posted by El-Jaro
What's the whole story here?
If I could I would show you all the video right here. You can however look it up. IT WAS BRUTAL... Can dancing really be a protest?
05/31/2011
wetone123 wetone123
link


LINK TO VIDEO
05/31/2011
wetone123 wetone123
Quote:
Originally posted by wetone123
If I could I would show you all the video right here. You can however look it up. IT WAS BRUTAL... Can dancing really be a protest?
I'm sorry JR. I should have put the story and video link 1st. now I can't fix it
05/31/2011
AYoungHomeWifey AYoungHomeWifey
I think if people can protest LOUDLY at military funerals, and hold walks in support of Life and other huge events, why should people not be able to simply dance, quietly? Ask them to leave or stop and if they don't have documents to peacefully assemble, then so be it... but this was rather excessive!
05/31/2011
Owl Identified Owl Identified
I DO NOT APPROVE OF THIS "DANCING" YOU SPEAK OF. I THINK IT POLLUTES THE MIND AND SPIRIT AND DETERS YOU FROM MORE IMPORTANT TASKS - SHOULDN'T YOU ALL BE *FLAGELLATING YOURSELVES FOR YOUR SINS?!?!

*I am not knocking (sensible) Christians as I count myself among them! Just being silly
06/01/2011
Owl Identified Owl Identified
PS. Jefferson was such an stuck-up, asshole patrician among many other titles - not least of which being slave owner. I doubt he would have approved and I'm surprised I'm the only one that thinks so!
06/01/2011
wetone123 wetone123
Quote:
Originally posted by Owl Identified
I DO NOT APPROVE OF THIS "DANCING" YOU SPEAK OF. I THINK IT POLLUTES THE MIND AND SPIRIT AND DETERS YOU FROM MORE IMPORTANT TASKS - SHOULDN'T YOU ALL BE *FLAGELLATING YOURSELVES FOR YOUR SINS?!?!

*I am not knocking (sensible) ... More
This is not about being Christian.

It is about freedom of speech and freedom to move your limbs in a public area. These rights are written in our Constitution. Do you not want to be free? I think maybe you take your freedoms for granted.

Did you even read the article or watch the video?

I realize I should have put them at the very top, but unfortunately I thought most people knew what had happened. I won't make that mistake again.

Why are you SCREAMING?
06/01/2011
wetone123 wetone123
Quote:
Originally posted by Owl Identified
PS. Jefferson was such an stuck-up, asshole patrician among many other titles - not least of which being slave owner. I doubt he would have approved and I'm surprised I'm the only one that thinks so!
Thomas Jefferson (April 13, 1743 – July 4, 1826) was the third President of the United States (1801–1809) and the principal author of the Declaration of Independence (1776). An influential Founding Father, Jefferson envisioned America as a great "Empire of Liberty" that would promote republicanism.


Republicanism is the political value system that has been a major part of American civic thought since the American Revolution. It stresses liberty and inalienable rights as central values, makes the people as a whole sovereign, supports activist government to promote the common good, rejects inherited political power, expects citizens to be independent in their performance of civic duties, and vilifies corruption. American republicanism was founded and first practiced by the Founding Fathers in the 18th century. This system was based on early Roman, Renaissance and English models and ideas. It formed the basis for the American Revolution and the consequential Declaration of Independence (1776) and the Constitution (1787), as well as the Gettysburg Address.



Jefferson idealized the independent yeoman farmer as exemplar of republican virtues, distrusted cities and financiers, and favored states' rights and a limited federal government. Jefferson supported the separation of church and state and was the author of the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom (1779, 1786). Jefferson's revolutionary view on individual religious freedom and protection from government authority have generated much interest with modern scholars. He was the eponym of Jeffersonian democracy and the co-founder and leader of the Democratic-Republican Party, which dominated American politics for 25 years.


And yes, Jefferson did own slaves and had 6 children with 1 of them. However, he was not a harsh man and did not abuse his slaves. Slavery is not right by any means, but was very common in that day for ANY plantation owner. He was not exclusive in this.

He was a politician, which I do not trust in this day and time, because the bankers and politicians of today want to make ALL of us slaves. And have a good foot hold on doing just that.

Jefferson believed in freedom

I highly doubt that he was stuck-up. He was for the common man. The very fact that he distrusted bankers is a plus for him in my world.


Being one of our founding fathers and author of many freedom documents that have kept us a nation of free citizens (so far) gives him a thumbs up in my world.

When these documents are done away with, so are we.

Something for you to ponder on...
06/02/2011
wetone123 wetone123
Oh and of course Jefferson was a great fan of the arts, musical and otherwise. I can't imagine that he would not join in on a little harmless dancing.
06/02/2011
Total posts: 13
Unique posters: 5