You’re having lunch with three people you respect and admire. They all start criticizing...

Contributor: Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
... a close friend of yours, not knowing she is your friend. The criticism is distasteful and unjustified. What do you do?
07/25/2013
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Contributor: Trysexual Trysexual
Listen and defend my views.
07/26/2013
Contributor: Taylor Taylor
I probably would not say anything. I wouldn't join in with their criticism, but I wouldn't make a big fight out of it either.
07/26/2013
Contributor: Rossie Rossie
I'll speak the truth and defend my friend.
07/26/2013
Contributor: stacylyn12 stacylyn12
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
... a close friend of yours, not knowing she is your friend. The criticism is distasteful and unjustified. What do you do?
listen and then set them straight
07/26/2013
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
This has always been a tough one for me...the reason is because when I was growing up there was a close family friend who was a t-total bitch to everyone who crossed her path -- sarcastic, biting, condescending, and in some situations downright rude, but my mother loved her to death because "she always speaks her mind and that takes a lot of courage" and even though something may be a negative trait, if it it's to protect oneself does that really mean it's a bad trait to have?

She took very good care of my mother during some of the most difficult times in her life. You see, in her case her heart was simply so big that she had to guard it or risk being taken advantage of time and again. The truth is it was too easy for her to take on the problems of others while ignoring her own and many people disliked her greatly because she kept them at arms length or refused to sugar-coat things. She had a strong sense of right and wrong and if she felt you were doing wrong by God you were going to hear about it.

So, back to the topic at hand, everyone has an opinion. The great thing about opinions is they aren't facts, evidence, nor truth. They are simply opinions. Everyone is free to speak their minds and I think at best I would ask if these people had the nerve to say it to the other person's face. If not, then what difference does it make what they think? They're obviously more satisfied with idle gossip than getting to know the person.

I'm sure this happens much more than people are willing to admit and there's a difference between gossiping and venting. If they're saying this person is guilty of cheating on their spouse or beating their kids or something of that nature and I know that to be completely untrue, you bet your life I'm going to go toe to toe with them.
07/26/2013
Contributor: Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
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Originally posted by Ansley
This has always been a tough one for me...the reason is because when I was growing up there was a close family friend who was a t-total bitch to everyone who crossed her path -- sarcastic, biting, condescending, and in some situations downright rude, ... more
Thank you for giving such thoughtful answers to my topics!

My mother had a friend like that! Fortunately, she was also good to me, so I always thought her sarcasm was hilarious and she never did or said anything hateful to my mom or me, so she remained a friend.

I agree, everyone has opinions and they are entitled to them. I think in this case, if what they were saying was untrue and I knew better, I would set them straight (tactfully, of course) because they're people I respect and admire. I would certainly listen to what they had to say and ask how they came to those conclusions.

Now, if they were people I didn't respect, or care about, I would set them straight if they were saying untrue things, but if it's just a matter of them not liking someone, I don't have a problem "letting" them say their piece. I may even decide if I want to even bother disagreeing with them. But it's a rare case when I can keep my big mouth shut if what they are saying is unjustified! Sometimes it's not worth it, but it will definitely affect my view of them, not the person they are criticizing.
07/26/2013
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
Thank you for giving such thoughtful answers to my topics!

My mother had a friend like that! Fortunately, she was also good to me, so I always thought her sarcasm was hilarious and she never did or said anything hateful to my mom or me, so ... more
Thank you for starting such awesome discussions! I get really offended when people assume that everyone in life is supposed to be sweet and loving to everyone they meet. We all have different experiences and some of us have been knocked around a fair bit harder than others. I'm sure you understand what I mean by this -- for example, people judging you for not moving out in your early twenties/late teens. You had a reason, a very valid one at that...

People should probably extract their noses out of others' business far more often than they do.
07/28/2013
Contributor: Wicked Wahine Wicked Wahine
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Originally posted by Ansley
Thank you for starting such awesome discussions! I get really offended when people assume that everyone in life is supposed to be sweet and loving to everyone they meet. We all have different experiences and some of us have been knocked around a fair ... more
Absolutely agreed! (Especially the sweet & loving part -- gee, they ever think maybe someone is justified in not being all sunshine to someone?)

The rush to judgment without getting pertinent facts is a big problem. Even worse, refusal to accept facts showing someone was wrong about their judgment, oh that ticks me off. It's as if people have a vested interest in finding others lacking and saying negative things about them. I have never seen one of the negative gossip spreaders attempting to spread the correct info with as much vigor when proven wrong! And the most annoying thing is they NEVER seem to bother to get the truth, check facts. They often extrapolate and fabricate and since all of this is on the sly, the "target" has no way to fight back.

I've always been the target of malicious rumors and when I heard some of the stuff being spread, if is beyond belief that someone made it up and also, that anyone believed it in the first place! Of course, they believe it because they want to, like it's some psychic salve for their bitter soul. Judge me on what I actually do and say because that I understand and have no problem defending or apologizing for. But, I have to try not to get angry about the haters and it's damned hard at times!

What else is annoying is the number of people who don't refute info they personally know to be wrong! I think they are worried about being treated the same way if they go against anyone. I always speak up if I know something is untrue and I detest bullies (I think this is a passive-aggressive form of bullying).
07/29/2013
Contributor: babyrock babyrock
i don't hang out with negative people who complain or critize. they drain my energy and i like to be with those who charge me up and expands my horizons.
07/30/2013
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
Absolutely agreed! (Especially the sweet & loving part -- gee, they ever think maybe someone is justified in not being all sunshine to someone?)

The rush to judgment without getting pertinent facts is a big problem. Even worse, refusal to ... more
Agreed 1000%! Just 'nuff said. LOL
07/30/2013
Contributor: js250 js250
I would pointedly tell them that the person is a friend of mine and I do not wish to be part of a witch hunt. I have had to do this repeatedly over time since I do live in a small rural area and there are many judgmental people residing here. Some call me a bitch and others respect my choices. Such is life, but a friend is rare to find and I will definitely fight for them as I know my true friends also have my back.
07/30/2013
Contributor: LoveBug721 LoveBug721
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
... a close friend of yours, not knowing she is your friend. The criticism is distasteful and unjustified. What do you do?
Stand Up For Her
07/30/2013
Contributor: Chelynn67 Chelynn67
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
... a close friend of yours, not knowing she is your friend. The criticism is distasteful and unjustified. What do you do?
I will say something to them politely at first but if they keep on, I'd probably let them know about it.
08/01/2013