did the debt ceiling bill fix anything?

married with children married with children
do you believe that the new bill signed by the president yesterday fixed the debt problem in this country?
Answers (private voting - your screen name will NOT appear in the results):
yes, they started to fix the problems
1  (3%)
no, not much has changed
31  (94%)
other
1  (3%)
Total votes: 33
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08/03/2011
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Errant Venture Errant Venture
No idea, but based on my limited knowledge of US politics then no, it was not a good thing. I'll let the ones who do know what they're talking about expand, should they agree.
08/04/2011
P'Gell P'Gell
Its a little early to tell, isn't it?

Also, without taxing the Rich and large companies more, we will NEVER get back on track. Those who have more need to help more. I don't buy the whiney, "Oh, if you tax us we won't give anyone jobs." They have been NOT taxed and where the fuck are the jobs? The rich and the large corporations are full of shit. They take the best this country has offered and shit on it.
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Thanks, Bush, (heavy sarcasm) and thanks to all who conveniently blamed the black guy instead of who is really responsible.
08/04/2011
Ansley Ansley
All I want to know is: where in the hell is Bill Clinton when we need him?
08/04/2011
El-Jaro El-Jaro
The worst part of the whole thing is that we got to see just how partisan the American government is. As much as I don't like the Tea Party, they are doing something that hasn't been done in years: making waves to get things changed. I might night like what they're proposing/fighting for...but at least it's something.

I think a lot of the issues could've been avoided if they would've axed the Bush tax. That's all suction and no return.
08/04/2011
Mr. E Mr. E
No. It simply did not address the real issue...out of control government spending.


The U.S. debt is currently $46,719 per citizen.

U.S Debt Clock
08/04/2011
Eucaly Eucaly
No. Economic ideas based on few taxes for the rich are always going to create trouble. Also, the debt ceiling will continue returning, repeatedly holding the economy hostage until the next time.
08/04/2011
thebest thebest
nope
08/07/2011
aliceinthehole aliceinthehole
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr. E
No. It simply did not address the real issue...out of control government spending.


The U.S. debt is currently $46,719 per citizen.

U.S Debt Clock
it was 51.500 when i went and looked at it! depressing.
08/11/2011
Avant-garde Avant-garde
As long as justice is what proves to be most advantages for the strongest we aren't going to get anywhere as a country. So no I don't think this deal really did much. It still isn't getting to the core of the issues.
08/17/2011
Miss Morphine Miss Morphine
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr. E
No. It simply did not address the real issue...out of control government spending.


The U.S. debt is currently $46,719 per citizen.

U.S Debt Clock
This is depressing.
08/22/2011
Cream in the Cupcake Cream in the Cupcake
No way! How is the answer to a debt problem SPEND MORE??? If you raise the ceiling, your ganna increase the debt. Bunch of Keynesians.
09/18/2011
TheHardOne TheHardOne
When the economy is doing good, no one whats to make the hard choices to do anything about I the debt. It's imposable to make any real progress when the economy is in the tank.
09/21/2011
Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by married with children
do you believe that the new bill signed by the president yesterday fixed the debt problem in this country?
Kind of like my credit card being maxed out and instead of stopping spending, every time it reaches max point, I just give myself a bigger credit limit (with NO more income at home). The entire process up there is just digging a bigger and bigger hole,when, as the old adage goes, if you find you are at the bottom of a deep hole, the best thing to do is STOP DIGGING.
10/05/2011
Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by Mr. E
No. It simply did not address the real issue...out of control government spending.


The U.S. debt is currently $46,719 per citizen.

U.S Debt Clock
Beyond scary, ain't it? Why does the government not understand what WE all know?
10/05/2011
Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
All I want to know is: where in the hell is Bill Clinton when we need him?
Or Ronald Reagan. Both Democrats and Republicans have had great, successful leaders in terms of vision and economics. We need that now, more then ever.
10/05/2011
Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by Errant Venture
No idea, but based on my limited knowledge of US politics then no, it was not a good thing. I'll let the ones who do know what they're talking about expand, should they agree.
Love your answer....except, they DON'T know. That is why we are in the mess we are in. The "experts" are only those who spout "intelligent" sounding polices that have left us in dire straights. We need NEW people on capital hill...NOT professional politicians, but, as the founding fathers envisioned, just working class people who would go to Washington, serve a term or two, and GO HOME..to let someone else do the job. That is the problem. most of the folks up there have NEVER worked in the real world. Held a REAL job and made payroll or started a business. They don't have a clue beyond some retched college economics class, how to run the economy.
10/05/2011
P'Gell P'Gell
Quote:
Originally posted by Eucaly
No. Economic ideas based on few taxes for the rich are always going to create trouble. Also, the debt ceiling will continue returning, repeatedly holding the economy hostage until the next time.
I understand what you are saying, Eucaly. But, raising the debt ceiling (without which we would have defaulted on our loan and been exactly where Bush wanted to put us; middle class fucked up and heading towards an other Great Depression even more than we are now) had NOTHING to do with taxing the Rich.

BOTH should have been done. Obama, as much as I want to trust in him, is too concerned about Boner and the other Republicans liking him and not wanting to be being seen as the "angry black man" to be aggressive enough to fix the problems. He needs to get MAD at Boner, the Tea Party, GWB and all the other fascists who have PUT IS IN THIS MESS!!!!

He needs to tell the rich, "Too fucking bad. Pay your taxes and shut up." Just put taxes where they were when Reagan was in office. Why not? He also needs to put high tariffs on things coming from China, fine companies for moving their "Operations" offshore so they don't have to pay taxes and for outsourcing jobs. Sadly, he isn't being strong enough of a leader to do this, due to his Daddy Issues. (He want big important men, like the Repubs in Congress to like him and it's getting in the way of him doing his job.)

I'm SO disappointed, I could cry. I have.
10/05/2011
T&A1987 T&A1987
in two weeks, the super committee will fail to agree to anything and the either the 10% across the board cuts will go into effect, or if it's possible to veto the cuts, if they have to presented in bill form, nothing will happen.
11/07/2011
pleasurehunter pleasurehunter
too early to tell still i think but im not sure it will help.
12/05/2011
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Unique posters: 16