Did you care about Clinton's infamous sexual act?

Contributor: sexyk515 sexyk515
no hes just a man
04/19/2011
Contributor: CPTInsanity CPTInsanity
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Originally posted by Gunsmoke
It's not about sex - it's about perjury.
He did get punished, he was the second president to be impeached. Ok, he got a blowjob and lied about it, who hasn't been there before. Yah, I didn't do it when I was married, but if his wife didn't care who am I to care.
04/19/2011
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Gunsmoke
So why hasn't obama declared war on saudi arabia - is he in their pocket too?
I don't know. It is possible.

Also, there hasn't been an additional attack since he's been in office.

I can't explain the attack on Libya and I don't like it.

Obama isn't perfect, by any means. I did vote for the man, and most likely will again, (Trump? Huckabee? I don't think so.) but I don't know all his connections. However, the Bush connections with the Saudis are long standing and certainly no secret.
04/19/2011
Contributor: PersonalAngel PersonalAngel
It is no ones business its between him, his mistress and wife.
04/19/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by P'Gell
I don't know. It is possible.



Also, there hasn't been an additional attack since he's been in office.



I can't explain the attack on Libya and I don't like it.



Obama isn't ... more
Clinton didn't attack the saudis - the bush's didn't and neither will any president. Unless you want $500 a barrel oil. It's not about being in someone's pocket - it's simple math. The saudis have the highest level of production and the highest potential to increase production when necessary.

President's don't pick our enemies - our enemies pick us - i.e. lybia, north korea, iran, etc.

You can promise to 'get along' when you're running for president - but you can't do it when you get there. It's just that all the pacifist's want to believe that the democrats are for peace and republicans want war - neither is true.

It's a dangerous world, war is as old as man kind and will continue to be with us forever. There is always someone who wants what you have and is willing to kill you to get it.
04/19/2011
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Gunsmoke
Clinton didn't attack the saudis - the bush's didn't and neither will any president. Unless you want $500 a barrel oil. It's not about being in someone's pocket - it's simple math. The saudis have the highest level of ... more
Which is one reason we should have worked out the kinks on "Alternative Energy" back in the 70s, when we realized this oil thing would happen.



I know at least two people (couples, actually) who had solar and/or wind companies started (my cousins' friends, when I was young) both these people had Big Oil companies come to them, offer to "fund" their companies by buying them and "working on the problems." Both companies and their research were shut down within a few months. Big Oil KILLED the Alternative Energy movement 35 years ago, and they are trying to do it now.



Now, we're stuck, UNLESS we really fund REAL non-fossil fuel research and development without Big Oil being involved. You can't let the fox guard the henhouse.

And we cannot let ANY candidate accept unlimited funds from any large corporation. A corporation is not "a person." Letting big multi-conglomerates buy their own Congressmen or even their own presidents will END this country. It's already happening.
04/19/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by P'Gell
Which is one reason we should have worked out the kinks on "Alternative Energy" back in the 70s, when we realized this oil thing would happen.







I know at least two people (couples, actually) who had solar ... more
Shoulda, woulda, coulda - we are where we are. There have been plenty of presidents from both sides who neglected this issue. We're going to need plenty of oil for the next 50-100 years - so we'd better get use to off-shore rigs, arctic rigs and others.

People don't really understand that the wind doesn't always blow - and it isn't where it's needed. Likewise with solar - no one lives in the desert where there's almost enough sun to make it work.

We need to realistically evaluate and produce energy - not get caught up in windmills and fantasies. Believe me - the cold kills way more people that the heat.
04/19/2011
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Gunsmoke
Shoulda, woulda, coulda - we are where we are. There have been plenty of presidents from both sides who neglected this issue. We're going to need plenty of oil for the next 50-100 years - so we'd better get use to off-shore rigs, arctic rigs ... more
My Man is an electrical engineer. We have a wind powered generator almost ready to go up. It goes up and goes live this weekend, in fact. It's only one 3 bladed turbine, and should only take about 5 to 10% off of our reliance on the power company.

But, he has friends at work who have solar and wind energy completely powering their homes and enough to sell back to Com Ed. It CAN be done. I've seen it, and he and many other people know how to do it.

According to him (and Power Supplies and Batteries are his specialties) the storage batteries are MUCH better than they were even 10 years ago. Poor ability to store (and no money to research) is one of the reasons solar and wind, as well as wave energy (from the sea waves) didn't take off, as well as the Oil companies destroying everything they could. Good storage batteries and you can store enough wind or sun for even weeks without any added power from either. With wave energy, it NEVER stops, so you store what you don't need and use the rest.

It CAN be done. But, we have to do it NOW. My Man is a pretty conservative guy, (probably more politically on board with you than with me) but he says Alternative Energy can be used and needs to be taken seriously.

If the money were put into it, we could have solar, wind, and wave energy up and running in less than 5 years, enough to eliminate most of the oil we are using. IF the money and research and time were put into it.
04/19/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by P'Gell
My Man is an electrical engineer. We have a wind powered generator almost ready to go up. It goes up and goes live this weekend, in fact. It's only one 3 bladed turbine, and should only take about 5 to 10% off of our reliance on the power ... more
I agree with him - there is a role for it - but please don't think that you're all of the sudden not going to need saudi oil.

If you get 5-10% from all the effort to install a windmill, that doesn't seem a viable strategy. Can we have 100 million of them on every home, apartment and condo?

Solar cells cost more than the energy they produce - they'll have to be replaced before they've paid for themselves.

Batteries take a ton of resources and energy to produce and are awful pollutants once they are used up. Energy from wind and solar will be need to be stored by using high energy capacitors, compressed air, flywheels and other techniques. Excess solar energy can be used to make hydrogen for burning in an engine or fuel cell.

Batteries are the worst alternative. They are even starting to look at hydraulic hybrid cars because batteries are just a terrible solution. Stored hydraulic energy can be returned to the drive train - without having 500-1000 lbs of batteries to dispose of.

The energy to create the nickle hydride batteries for a Prius consumes the equivalent fuel of driving more than 100,000 miles. Any gas you thought you saved was consumed before you even bought the car!
04/19/2011
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Gunsmoke
I agree with him - there is a role for it - but please don't think that you're all of the sudden not going to need saudi oil.



If you get 5-10% from all the effort to install a windmill, that doesn't seem a viable strategy. ... more
The wind power generator we have is VERY small. It's just a test. It's about 5 feet across, and will be about 12-15 ft in the air when installed. We're just testing the waters, but we know people who are completely OFF the grid, due to their efforts. One guy runs his house, his out buildings and enough power for his hybrid car on his wind and solar cells, AND sells some back to the power company. (He still has a fully gas operated car, too. At this point anyway.)



Bigger blades, better storage, better power transfer,less resistance,(electrical ly) less problems. No, we can't have them in every apartment building, but Wind Farms are a great idea.

You said: Solar cells cost more than the energy they produce - they'll have to be replaced before they've paid for themselves. That's simply not true anymore. They are becoming more and more power efficient. As are the batteries, I'm talking STORAGE batteries, which is HOW you store energy from non-burning fuels. You have to store it, you can't use it live. No sun, no power, without batteries. The STORAGE batteries (we have 3 or 4 of them in our out building as we speak) are much different than the ones they use in cars. My Man is not enamored with electric cars at the moment; the reason; the batteries suck. There are better battery alternatives, but more research needs to be done so that little power is lost when it is stored.

It IS do-able. It needs work. The work SHOULD have been done 35 years ago, when we first saw this coming. But, now we have to do it now. We cannot rely on oil and we need to get the Saudi royalty and the Bush-type royalty out of the picture. THEY don't want that, and will do and say ANYTHING to stop it.

It's do-able.
04/19/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by P'Gell
The wind power generator we have is VERY small. It's just a test. It's about 5 feet across, and will be about 12-15 ft in the air when installed. We're just testing the waters, but we know people who are completely OFF the grid, due to ... more
Truce - at least we agree batteries are a terrible way to go. I will not be here to see the end of saudi oil imports.
04/19/2011
Contributor: tickle me pink tickle me pink
It didn't affect me. I was so young when it happened that it wasn't until several years later that I actually found out what had happened.
04/21/2011
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Gunsmoke
Truce - at least we agree batteries are a terrible way to go. I will not be here to see the end of saudi oil imports.
Sound good to me. I admit it will take quite a while to end our oil addiction.
04/21/2011
Contributor: Ms. Spice Ms. Spice
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Originally posted by callsignhusker
Been wanting to do a poll on this!
no he was a wonderful pres that is human no big deal
04/22/2011
Contributor: sexygoddess sexygoddess
I hate cheaters. but, I think he made a great president anyways. That had nothing to do with his presidency
05/20/2011
Contributor: K101 K101
I honestly could care less, I mean the way peopel live today I am not surprised with these kind of acts, but I am always sad and disappointed when I hear about any adultery. It doesn't really affect me or cause me to form an opinion really, but it does usually hit me a bit when I hear about it happening so often because it makes me wonder and makes me think that it seems so impossible to have a faithful relationship, so yea I do get disappointed, but I don't actually let it affect my own relationships.
05/20/2011
Contributor: froggiemoma froggiemoma
didnt really care
05/20/2011
Contributor: Anjulie Anjulie
i never really cared--all the fuss seemed kind of silly.
05/21/2011
Contributor: REDRUM REDRUM
I could've cared less.
05/21/2011
Contributor: big b big b
he looked right at us and lied.you cant trust someone lies that good.
05/27/2011
Contributor: curmudgeoncat curmudgeoncat
Didn't care; I'm not sure why others did so much.
07/11/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
Just like Nixon - it's not what you did, its the lies and cover ups.

What I don't get is why it matters 21 years after the fact? Let dead dogs lie - yea I know it's a pun, but...
07/11/2011
Contributor: sarki sarki
No I didn't care for him ever
07/11/2011
Contributor: Errant Venture Errant Venture
He's fun to watch, even now. But I wouldn't have cared if he was my Prime Minister. I just care about the politics.
07/13/2011
Contributor: Shellz31 Shellz31
I absolutely couldn't stand him in the first place and my dislike has continued!
07/13/2011
Contributor: js250 js250
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Originally posted by callsignhusker
Been wanting to do a poll on this!
I didn't care for him to begin with and didn't care about the whole scandal. Just reinforced my opinion of him.
07/24/2011
Contributor: bayosgirl bayosgirl
I am totally against infidelity, but it had nothing to do with my opinion of him as PRESIDENT whatsoever.
07/25/2011
Contributor: swaggsohott12 swaggsohott12
who cares sex is sex no matter who you are
07/25/2011
Contributor: playtimeohsofun playtimeohsofun
nope was to young to care
07/25/2011
Contributor: Enchantedkitty Enchantedkitty
I don't see an issue. it's his life not ours.
07/29/2011