Obama's sexist campaign ad

hyacinthgirl hyacinthgirl
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This ad filled me with so much anger that I'm still afraid on whether I can type properly. I am not a woman because I voted for a man to tell me how to live my life. Sex should not be equated with maturity, nor should voting if you're simply going to be giggling and winking and nudging people over how clever and coy you are, and suggesting that every female who votes differently is not as grown up or special as you are. It's degrading and insulting that my entire political value as a human being has been reduced to birth control, as if women could not have any other possible concerns. And if we're going to be getting all giggly about our "first times", what about women who are voting for Jill Stein in this election? Are they still girls?

I loved the Libertarian counterpoint to this insulting garbage, though:
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11/01/2012
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Mwar Mwar
Ads can be done by parties not directly under the presidents campaign. We also don't have the classic "I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message," part, which shows it probably wasn't done directly.

I'm not enraged, I am displeased. I feel this trivializes women as gossiping school girls. However, the ad is for young women between the ages of 18-21: first time female voters. Was it stereotyped? Yes. But I think there are worse ones out there. The sad thing is not being as affected because I've seen worse means something really is wrong with the big picture.
11/01/2012
Rossie Rossie
I never pay attention to those campaign ads that have not been endorsed by the candidates themselves, please do not let those ads affect your voting decision.
11/01/2012
hyacinthgirl hyacinthgirl
I was voting for Gary Johnson anyway, but I am enraged that it was greenlit and approved by a party that claims to be all about women, when all I've seen is that they're for patting women on the head for their adorable out-of-control libidos and letting the menfolk worry about real issues. It's pure Victorianism, only instead of being worried about female licentiousness, it's now "Oh, those minxes, aren't they cute? Now let's throw them some condoms that someone else has paid for and get back to not talking about the fact that the Federal Government has passed a law allowing the President to indefinitely detain anyone without trial for any reason, sneaked into a bill providing healthcare and pay raises for our troops?"
11/01/2012
Kenneth Fort Kenneth Fort
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Originally posted by hyacinthgirl
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This ad filled me with so much anger that I'm still afraid on whether I can type properly. I am not a woman because I voted for a man to tell me how to live my life. Sex should not be equated with maturity, nor should voting if ... More
No offense to anyone who wants to interpret them differently, but MOST ads oriented specifically to females which come out of democrats are a bit sexist. They seem to indirectly imply that all females should care about is the slight alteration in sexual freedom they promise them, and it's generally presented in a "because you want to or SHOULD want to be more open about it" kind of way. Doing that once might not be sexist, but this is their main "thing" for them. As if universal things like the economy is something only males care about, and females care about female-specific issues only.

And let's not even get into the fact that they (the ones that are doing this often being male themself) often call any female who votes republican "brainwashed;" as if they're not allowed to have their own opinion on how things should be run, if it conflicts the image that's trying to be pushed, which they "should" want. Because males treating females like they're inferior second class entities is somehow "okay" when it's done the democrat version.

I'm not republican either. But I'm just calling it how I see it. Both parties accuse eachother of sexism, and pretend that they don't have any, but neither are willing to admit that there's more than one kind of sexism. Red herrings abound when anyone zones in on anything that would break their own internal image.
11/02/2012
Supervixen Supervixen
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Originally posted by Kenneth Fort
No offense to anyone who wants to interpret them differently, but MOST ads oriented specifically to females which come out of democrats are a bit sexist. They seem to indirectly imply that all females should care about is the slight alteration in ... More
Well said. I get so sick of people yelling about Republican women being brainwashed, or black Republicans, or gay Republicans, etc, as though they don't have opinions and minds of their own, or they don't have things that they care about that have nothing to do with their sex, color or sexual orientation. The Democrats have appointed themselves as the spokesmen for every minority out there, never paying any attention to the fact that maybe those minorities have ideas that differ from the party line on other issues like the economy or defense. No, let's just let the wise white men decide all that for us; I'm too busy obsessing over my uterus.

I'm neither a Republican or Democrat, because both parties in their own ways disgust me, both are hypocritical, and both are shockingly similar once you cut through all the rhetoric. I don't care if Obama personally put the stamp of approval on this ad or not. His party, which he represents, did. It speaks volumes about them.
11/02/2012
Timaree Timaree
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Originally posted by hyacinthgirl
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This ad filled me with so much anger that I'm still afraid on whether I can type properly. I am not a woman because I voted for a man to tell me how to live my life. Sex should not be equated with maturity, nor should voting if ... More
could you link to the ad so we knew what you were talking about and comment on it in an informed manner?
11/02/2012
Supervixen Supervixen
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Originally posted by Timaree
could you link to the ad so we knew what you were talking about and comment on it in an informed manner?
She did link it. It's the very first thing in her post.
11/02/2012
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by hyacinthgirl
I was voting for Gary Johnson anyway, but I am enraged that it was greenlit and approved by a party that claims to be all about women, when all I've seen is that they're for patting women on the head for their adorable out-of-control libidos ... More
Um, I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about and I think you might be a little confused.

The Patriot Act (thank you, George Idiot Bush) is what gives the government the right to detain anyone for any period of time for any reason without telling them why.
11/02/2012
hyacinthgirl hyacinthgirl
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Originally posted by Ansley
Um, I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about and I think you might be a little confused.

The Patriot Act (thank you, George Idiot Bush) is what gives the government the right to detain anyone for any period of time for any ... More
Look up the NDAA. Obama has expanded the Patriot Act by leaps and bounds. He signed the NDAA, which re-affirms the "right" of the President to detain anyone they want for as long as they want without charges.

I am not confused, it's just people aren't really talking about this issue.
11/02/2012
roskat roskat
The ad is stupid.
11/03/2012
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by hyacinthgirl
Look up the NDAA. Obama has expanded the Patriot Act by leaps and bounds. He signed the NDAA, which re-affirms the "right" of the President to detain anyone they want for as long as they want without charges.

I am not confused, ... More
Interesting. I will have to look into that.
11/16/2012
deltalima deltalima
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Originally posted by hyacinthgirl
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This ad filled me with so much anger that I'm still afraid on whether I can type properly. I am not a woman because I voted for a man to tell me how to live my life. Sex should not be equated with maturity, nor should voting if ... More
I remember watching this ad and laughing at the ridiculous portrayal. But this does reflect some peoples view.

And it's funny some are up in arms about expansion on the Patriot Act, yet question why enough is not done for national security.
11/16/2012
deltalima deltalima
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Originally posted by Supervixen
Well said. I get so sick of people yelling about Republican women being brainwashed, or black Republicans, or gay Republicans, etc, as though they don't have opinions and minds of their own, or they don't have things that they care about that ... More
I think the people you come across that yell about those groups being Republican despite their party's beliefs is normal human behavior.

"The Democrats have appointed themselves as the spokesmen for every minority out there, never paying any attention to the fact that maybe those minorities have ideas that differ from the party line on other issues like the economy or defense."
It's great you recognize that the Democratic party represents a lot of minority groups because often, the other main party being Republican supports a system that discriminates against minorities. The Democratic party (nor Republican for that matter) does not hold any individual to being in their party. I have never heard of a party that supports every single person's belief and wants.
11/16/2012
hyacinthgirl hyacinthgirl
But I've never heard of a white person being called a race traitor for voting Democrat, while look at the vile attacks on all prominent black Republicans. Or not even prominent - when Stacey Dash came out as a Republican, she was subjected to some of the most racist rhetoric I had ever heard, and considering how much time I spend on historical accounts of genocide, that was surprising.

And the Patriot Act has nothing to do with national security. It doesn't make it safer, it puts us more under government control. It erodes the Constitution massively, and every shred of it should be illegal.
11/16/2012
Gone (LD29) Gone (LD29)
I based my voting decision on the actual issues that matter to me, and not stupid campaign ads, of which both major parties had plenty.
11/16/2012
hyacinthgirl hyacinthgirl
I did as well, I was just sickened by this, especially after all the rhetoric about the Republican "War on Women". To spend months accusing the other side of being sexist and then turning around and making a stomach-turningly sexist campaign ad is hypocritical, to say the least.
11/19/2012
novanilla novanilla
I strongly identify as a feminist and thought it was funny. It was making fun of the religious right for reducing us to baby making machines. That was its purpose, not to suggest that women only care about birth control.
11/20/2012
hyacinthgirl hyacinthgirl
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Originally posted by novanilla
I strongly identify as a feminist and thought it was funny. It was making fun of the religious right for reducing us to baby making machines. That was its purpose, not to suggest that women only care about birth control.
Really? It reminded me of a guy on a political board I used to frequent who would make terrifically sexist comments, and then say we should know he was only joking because he was a liberal, and obviously liberals can't be sexist.

She wasn't just talking about birth control - she was talking about how voting "for the right guy" made her into a woman. That is the disgusting sexism in the video, because nothing involving any man or woman makes an individual female a "woman".
11/25/2012
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