XS Condom for 12 Year Old Boys? Ethical? Disturbing?

~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
" A leading condom manufacturer in Switzerland has created extra-small condoms for boys as young as 12 years old, the U.K.’s Daily Telegraph reported.

The condom, called the Hotshot, was produced after family planning groups and the Swiss AIDS Federation campaigned to have the condoms made following several studies that showed adolescent boys were not using proper protection when engaging in intercourse.

"The result that shocked us concerned young boys who display apparently risky behavior,” Nancy Bodmer, who headed the research, told the newspaper. “They have more of a tendency not to protect themselves. They do not have a very developed sexual knowledge. They do not understand the consequences of what they are doing and leave the young girls to take care of the consequences.”

Bodmer said the results of the study suggest that early prevention makes sense.

A spokeswoman for the company, Lamprecht AG, said the United Kingdom would be a “top priority” if they expanded abroad, especially since the U.K. has one of the highest rates of teen pregnancy in Europe.

A standard condom has a diameter of 2 inches; the Hotshot's is 1.7 inches."

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So what do you think? I think the name itself is wrong lol. Hot Shot? Seriously?
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07/28/2010
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kck kck
I think it'll just standardize that behavior and make kids think it's "okay" and "normal" to have sex at 12 years old. I think it's disturbing.
07/28/2010
Chilipepper Chilipepper
Use the 'finger cots' (or as we called them in the food industry 'finger condoms'), they'd be about the same size.

I didn't know boys had dropped 'em by 12. Must be all the hormones in the food.
07/28/2010
Red Vinyl Kitty Red Vinyl Kitty
While I do NOT like the idea of 12 year olds having sex, if they are *going* to have sex anyway regardless of my or anyone else's opinion, I want them to be protected.
07/28/2010
Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Red Vinyl Kitty
While I do NOT like the idea of 12 year olds having sex, if they are *going* to have sex anyway regardless of my or anyone else's opinion, I want them to be protected.
I agree. I wouldn't have wanted my son having sex at 12, but if they're going to do it then they might as well be encouraged to practice sex safely right from the start.

I don't, however, agree with the name "Hotshot." Young boys are so concerned about being "cool" that it just sounds like the kind of thing that might encourage them to become sexually active at a younger age.
07/28/2010
Red Vinyl Kitty Red Vinyl Kitty
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Originally posted by Alan & Michele
I agree. I wouldn't have wanted my son having sex at 12, but if they're going to do it then they might as well be encouraged to practice sex safely right from the start.

I don't, however, agree with the name "Hotshot." ... More
I completely agree with you on the name "Hotshot".
07/28/2010
Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
The name is shitty but if it inspires sexually active young folks to BUY the damned things and USE them, then I'm all in favor, all the way around.

I'm not going to say I like the idea of preteens having sex but if they already are? I'd much prefer to see less pregnancies and STI's.
07/28/2010
fatesrelease fatesrelease
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Originally posted by Red Vinyl Kitty
While I do NOT like the idea of 12 year olds having sex, if they are *going* to have sex anyway regardless of my or anyone else's opinion, I want them to be protected.
Agreed!
07/28/2010
Darling Jen Darling Jen
Oh I'm the first other! That's pretty nifty.

I'm in the middle.

On the one hand I think naming it the "Hot Shot" is a great way to advertize it as something that boys should want, whether or not they need it, and could actually encourage sex amoung children. Couldn't they just say XS Condom? Or Youth Condom? Something practical with no connotations? Because young people are very impressionable and will do anything to show off to peers and prove themselves and be part of a group. "I'm a hot shot! I am! I will buy a condom and have sex to prove it!"

But on the other hand, I know the statistics well and the younger the person is that's having sex, and the more infrequent the sex is (i.e. no regularly planned) the less likely they are to protect themselves. So yes. This condom should exist and be available. Because they're gonna have sex anyway, the least we can do is teach them to be safe and protect themselves and protect their partners and think about sex as something that does go hand-in-hand with our biological health.

I think the way we teach our kids about their bodies should start earlier though. And maybe we'll just start having smarter, more mature youth who are ok with waiting till they're at least middle to late teens.

...And when it comes down to it, prepubescent kids having sex makes me queasy.
07/28/2010
SweetestAngelGoneBad SweetestAngelGoneBad
My nephew was caught in bed with his girlfriend at 12 I'm thankful he used protection ( he could wear a regular condom. Kids now days are having sex younger and younger so yes there should be some type of protection for them. Age is just a number now day, so I think its best to start teaching them about protection around age 12.
07/28/2010
Red Vinyl Kitty Red Vinyl Kitty
Quote:
Originally posted by SweetestAngelGoneBad
My nephew was caught in bed with his girlfriend at 12 I'm thankful he used protection ( he could wear a regular condom. Kids now days are having sex younger and younger so yes there should be some type of protection for them. Age is just a number ... More
I agree with teaching children around age 12. When I went to school, they actually brought condoms and videos into the classroom at age.. Wait for it.. *8*! My parents were so unhappy they pulled me right out of health class. I don't think they are prudes, I just think that 8 is too young, as did they.
07/28/2010
El-Jaro El-Jaro
I'd be naive to think groups of people aren't having sex already, preteens to nursing homes. I hope they are using condoms all around, but specifically marketing...that's iffy to me. Then again, Sweden is a European country whose views are not the same as American.

I'd rather they spend the money on sex ed. though...but that's just my opinion. What I say has no bearing on anyone else's choices.
07/28/2010
P'Gell P'Gell
I DO think condoms should be sized better. There are more sizes to men than just "regular" and "Magnum." Europe has a history of sizing condoms, which is not shared by US condom distributors. There are certainly grown men who would be much more comfortable in this size condom, (and I would bet some 12 year olds who could fit into a Magnum.)

Did the manufacture SAY "made for 12 year old boys" or was that the interpretation of some anti-condom commentator? The Telegraph is known for sensationalizing stories. Plus, the link came from FOX news, so there's that. My guess is it's simply Europe using an other sized condom. "Adolescence" is from the age of about 11 to 20, so although I couldn't find the studies, my guess is MOST of the boys in the study were TEEN agers.

While not in favor of 12 year olds having sex, I don't think that this would be the main purpose of a condom this size.
07/28/2010
kck kck
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Originally posted by P'Gell
I DO think condoms should be sized better. There are more sizes to men than just "regular" and "Magnum." Europe has a history of sizing condoms, which is not shared by US condom distributors. There are certainly grown men who ... More
No, this is a condom specifically targeted at youths. This is actually a relatively "old" news story. I heard about it a few months ago.
07/28/2010
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by kck
No, this is a condom specifically targeted at youths. This is actually a relatively "old" news story. I heard about it a few months ago.
Really? Twelve? That IS too young.
07/28/2010
Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
The name is shitty but if it inspires sexually active young folks to BUY the damned things and USE them, then I'm all in favor, all the way around.

I'm not going to say I like the idea of preteens having sex but if they already are? ... More
Absolutely how I feel about it as well.
07/28/2010
Beth D Beth D
I'm conflicted I don't want to think twelve year olds are having sex at all, but if they are, I definitely think it's important for them to stay safe. But I don't like the marketing of condoms specifically to children because I think this will make them think it's okay to be screwing around at such a young age.

I think the condom companies need to offer a broad spectrum of sizes, one of which may or may not be designed with prepubescent penises in mind, but it shouldn't be marketed under a name like 'Hot Shot'; that makes it seem 'cool' to have sex when you're twelve

I think it comes down to parenting and sex ed classes. These kids need to be taught about the birds and the bees sooner and more thoroughly; I learned absolutely nothing in my sex ed classes except for some facts about STDs and about having babies. No condom freebies were given out either. So, maybe some company should make kid sized condoms and ship 'em out to schools for planned parenthood programs and sex ed classes.

But not call them 'Hot Shot'!
07/28/2010
~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by kck
I think it'll just standardize that behavior and make kids think it's "okay" and "normal" to have sex at 12 years old. I think it's disturbing.
I agree.

It kind of pushing it over for a kid on the fence. Maybe? idk. I don't know what to think.
07/28/2010
kck kck
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
I agree.

It kind of pushing it over for a kid on the fence. Maybe? idk. I don't know what to think.
I think so. I think that this makes it more convincing to have sex. Just like some kids believe everything they see on TV, some will believe that it's sold because it's okay (even standard or expected) that pre-teens have sex.

I think there needs to be more education about sex. In my opinion, it's talked about a little too late. I also think that a lot of the social factors are ignored. I know in my 6th grade sex ed class, we did not talk about STD/STI, (age of) consent, and costs (emotional, physical, financial) of having sex and/or children. We talked about it strictly in terms of anatomy--which is good, but doesn't necessarily affect the educated decision to have sex.
07/28/2010
Ciao. Ciao.
12 is way to young for kids to be engaging in sex. Sure protection is important, but any 12 year old who thinks sex is the way to go clearly has had a lack of something, probably parenting and social support. How many sexually active 12 year olds do you really think would walk into the store to buy condoms with their allowance money? I just don't see them doing it. Safe sex is important, and a wide variety of condom sizes should be a good thing, but I just don't support pre-teens engaging in sexual behavior. I don't think it's necessarily the fault of the company, but somebody should really be making a serious case that 12 year olds shouldn't be engaging in intercourse for at least a couple more years. 14-15 that wouldn't bother me...but if you're not a teen yet you're pushing both my societal boundaries and biological ones. It's simply an issue of responsibility. The chance that I would have been able to 1. buy a condom at 12, and 2. spend enough time alone with a girl of my age to have sex was pretty minimal. I'm all for sex-positive, supportive atmospheres, but if there is a large amount of sexual activity of 12 year olds then maybe it's time for parents to reevaluate how their supervising their pre-teens.
07/28/2010
joja joja
This seems to be reminiscent of the debate about most sex ed - is giving them the tools to have sex safely going to encourage them to do it younger?

In the end, I don't think it matters. Kids are sexual and we have to deal with that fact. I doubt a lot of 12-year-olds are going to be stopped a misfitting condom (or lack thereof), at least not those educated in the US.
07/28/2010
Sir Sir
I'd rather them have condoms than not have condoms if they're sexually active. I was at that age - I'm not going to go flippy dippy and act like I wasn't and say that these should not be marketed. They should, because ignorance is not bliss. Better to be safe than sorry, always. If I had a child who was sexually active at this age, sure, I'd give them a little smack on the bottom, but I would be relieved, thankful, and happy if they used protection during.
07/29/2010
Midway through Midway through
I voted I support-but let me explain myself. I do not approve of a marketing towards 12 year old boys because I don't think they should be having sex. However, the reality is that I know that children are having sex, and I'd rather them be safe then go without protection or the education to protect themselves. So it's basically a yes and no. If it has to be done... yes. Let's at least promote them not getting STD's... However, WTF are they teaching kids? When I was 12 all I could think about was whether or not my barbies were going to be dressed a certain way.
07/29/2010
PonyPlay PonyPlay
I think it's kinda weird to make a condom for kids when it's illegal for them to have sex. (I don't know what the laws are like in Switzerland though) I mean it's like here's a condom but you can't have legal sex. I mean I guess I'm not surprised because corporations don't have morals at all and there morals are based off of $$$ I do have to agree that if they are going to do it though they should have protection.
07/29/2010
MnWolf MnWolf
In this day and age I am sorry, but I support the idea of a smaller size condom like this. The fact of the matter is that kids are having sex at the younger ages and it will only take so long till the new breaks a story of some poor youngster who was just playing doctor with the girl next door, and she gets pg.

I think the sadest part is that there is still the stigma of sex in this country that there is, heck when we were younger most of us would have been messing around like that be for one, We didn't have all the information that we needed, or the outside influences to deal with.

In my mine at least I would rather my 11 year old son be safe, if would be better if he did not do it till he was 30 but I know that isn't going to happen so what do we do. As a parent I have over looked things in the past and not thought about it, and one of them things is that kids are different then when I grew up, its the truth. In alot of ways I think children now days would be whole lot better off if they were treated as young adults kind of like it was back in the yearly years, that is something that should be looked at as well. If we lead by example and treat them as adults but to a point of not thinking that " our little joey " would never do X .... Then perhaps it would be better!
07/29/2010
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by PonyPlay
I think it's kinda weird to make a condom for kids when it's illegal for them to have sex. (I don't know what the laws are like in Switzerland though) I mean it's like here's a condom but you can't have legal sex. I mean I ... More
In most states in the US, it isn't "illegal" to have sex under the age of consent, it's only illegal if someone is over 18 or 21 and having sex with someone UNDER the age of consent.

When these things, like teachers sleeping with Jr High students or young girls being "seduced" by older men, it ISN'T the younger one who is breaking the law, it's the adult. In most states, TWO under aged kids having sex are NOT breaking any laws.

While I don't think 12 year olds should be having sex I DO NOT believe that making condoms available is "letting them know it's OK to have sex." This is the same logic that prevents High Schools from giving out condoms in the Bible Belt. "Wal, if'n ya let 'um have their rubbers, it'll be like saying you approve, and then even the ones who weren't gonna haft, 'il do it anyways." NO, it doesn't do that. Studies have proven that AVAILABILITY of birth control does NOT increase teen sex behavior, it simply lowers the pregnancy and disease rate.

And, I'm still a little skeptical that this condom is actually MADE just for 12 year olds. American are not used to the idea of sized condoms, and a "twelve year old boy" doesn't necessarily have a smaller erect penis than a grown man. Some boys are nearly finished with penile growth at this age. We DO need sized condoms, and I'll have to do more research, but I don't' trust FOX news in the least, nor do I trust British Tabloids for FACTUAL information without bias.
07/29/2010
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
The name is shitty but if it inspires sexually active young folks to BUY the damned things and USE them, then I'm all in favor, all the way around.

I'm not going to say I like the idea of preteens having sex but if they already are? ... More
Well said!
07/29/2010
PassionQT PassionQT
Although I don't condone 12-year-olds having sex, it's undeniable that pre-teens are experimenting. Better to educate them about safe sex practices than not.

And, there are grown men who could benefit from the smaller size too. This one old friend of mine couldn't even wear a regular size, they would fall off. He could have used one of these.
07/29/2010
El-Jaro El-Jaro
Quote:
Originally posted by PassionQT
Although I don't condone 12-year-olds having sex, it's undeniable that pre-teens are experimenting. Better to educate them about safe sex practices than not.

And, there are grown men who could benefit from the smaller size too. ... More
100% agree
07/29/2010
Chilipepper Chilipepper
Quote:
Originally posted by P'Gell
In most states in the US, it isn't "illegal" to have sex under the age of consent, it's only illegal if someone is over 18 or 21 and having sex with someone UNDER the age of consent.

When these things, like teachers sleeping ... More
Thanks, P'Gell. I wanted to post something along the same lines, but I would have been more rude about it.

At the age of twelve, the majority of us (there are the exceptional few that the media likes to point at and say "LOOK! LOOK!") were too scared stiff to even think of ASKING the opposite sex out, let alone actually DOING anything with them. Sex ed needs to be ramped up during those years, with particular emphasis on consequence and responsibility.
07/29/2010
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