Would having a company you don't really like do something public to support a cause you beleive in encourage you to buy their products?

Woman China Woman China
I am a strong voice at my college, on the internet both in China and abroad, in the community (not as loud as I want to be, but only as loud as I can be without causing too many waves!!) for treating all people as human beings.

Screaming for Human Rights won't get you anywhere in this country other than a deaf ear. But encouraging people to treat people as human beings is just so much easier, no matter what they look like, their job status, their families, where they came from or where they are planning to go, sexual orientation... Everyone is human and that means you don't have to like them, but you do have to respect them as a human being.

But I hate Starbucks. Their coffee is terrible, their food stuff is way over priced... and we don't have one here in town. But they are popping up all over China and I have heard some talk in the City Centre Buildings that Starbucks might be coming to town. (I prefer McDonalds coffee... mmmm.... coffee)

With Starbucks voicing its support of gay marriages, many activists were hoping that China would ban Starbucks and were quite surprised that China just went on with business as usual even noticing an increase in sales. Take a gander at this one report Way to go China!!!

I've done what I can to encourage people for a little while to visit Starbucks in the big cities in support. And I know many of my former students are having a hay-day dragging classmates and friends on their first coffee run.

So my question to you all, would be thus, would you encourage people to buy a product you don't really support or agree with to promote awareness of a cause you strongly support?
Answers (private voting - your screen name will NOT appear in the results):
Starbucks... tastes like crap... but yes. I'd buy a cup of java
6  (24%)
Starbucks... no way it's still over priced no matter what or who they support
14  (56%)
I try to avoid these types of topics
For one million dollars... is that your final answer? (the other option)
5  (20%)
Total votes: 25
Poll is closed
04/24/2012
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I don't think it tastes like crap, or I wouldn't buy their coffee no matter how LGBT supportive they were. Shit coffee is shit coffee and I don't have funds for a $6 cup of shit coffee.
04/24/2012
Raigne Raigne
Governments don't listen to people. They listen to money. If China wants that business there badly enough to give them a pass, then yes, I would buy their coffee. They have a bigger voice than you do.
04/24/2012
Woman China Woman China
Quote:
Originally posted by Raigne
Governments don't listen to people. They listen to money. If China wants that business there badly enough to give them a pass, then yes, I would buy their coffee. They have a bigger voice than you do.
"So my question to you all, would be thus, would you encourage people to buy a product you don't really support or agree with to promote awareness of a cause you strongly support?"
04/24/2012
gloomybear gloomybear
their coffee is terrible
04/24/2012
Woman China Woman China
Quote:
Originally posted by Woman China
"So my question to you all, would be thus, would you encourage people to buy a product you don't really support or agree with to promote awareness of a cause you strongly support?"
Sorry!!! I wasn't looking at which screen I was in and that shouldn't be there!!! My response should read;

"Chinese government doesn't really have much of a fuss when it comes to gays and lesbians since they lift the mental illness ban almost a decade ago. It's more the older generation that causes a fuss because they think being gay means no grandkids to carry on".
04/24/2012
Raigne Raigne
Quote:
Originally posted by Woman China
Sorry!!! I wasn't looking at which screen I was in and that shouldn't be there!!! My response should read;

"Chinese government doesn't really have much of a fuss when it comes to gays and lesbians since they lift the mental ... More
They put the one child policy into effect to reduce the population ... and are worried that gays will reduce the population? o.o;
04/24/2012
Ansley Ansley
When a company who does not ordinarily participate in fundraising events for the public suddenly decides to do so, I get really nervous about their intent.

Starbucks sucks, as both a company and a product and I will not support them in any way.
04/24/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
I have a different take on this issue. I don't hate Starbucks coffee. Where I live, their prices are average for upscale coffee. I do prefer to patronize small business, owner/operator coffee houses on the rare occasion I have some coffee. But, if I am in the neighborhood of a Starbucks and have a desire for a Soy Mocha Latte, hot or frozen, or a shot of espresso, I will get it from them.

I like their coffee, although I rarely drink or buy coffee except on special occasions.

Starbucks has gotten a lot of my friends through rough financial times when there were few other jobs, they offer benefits, when many other companies are eliminating them, and I have no problem with them promoting pro GLBT people in China or anywhere else. I think one should take support where ever one can get it, as long as it IS helping. If Starbucks wasn't supporting GLBT issues, or simply doing nothing, many people would be just as upset. Yes, they are a large company, but if their money and influence helps the Cause, I'm all for it!

I don't like the attitude "Well, they've never done this kind of work before, so now they shouldn't be allowed to." That attitude reeks of elitism (only "certain" previously activist companies should be "allowed" to join activism, and only those who "always have.") If they are doing a good thing, why shouldn't they be supported? So, it's new. Does that mean they should never be supported when they try something new? It reminds me of the whole hipster "This is SO over! I'm not going to be a part of this anymore, now that the masses are finding and enjoying it. It was only good when only we knew about it." as soon as anything, even good things, go mainstream. (Anything from bands, to clothing, to websites to supporting causes and on.)

If one doesn't like their coffee, then don't buy it. But, I do like it when companies join a good cause. The more help the better.
04/24/2012
underHim underHim
A companies public policies has no bearing on whether or not I like or will purchase their product any more than an actor or actresses political views will keep me from watching a movie (good thing too or else I could never watch anything!)
04/24/2012
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Quote:
Originally posted by Woman China
I am a strong voice at my college, on the internet both in China and abroad, in the community (not as loud as I want to be, but only as loud as I can be without causing too many waves!!) for treating all people as human beings.

Screaming for ... More
I resent cheap gimmicks aimed at getting my dollar by paying lip service to a cause I support. Now, if I am convinced that they are doing a greater good and thier competition is not then I MIGHT consider patronizing them...but it had better be VERY well proven and a product I actually want to buy.
I have been taken in by this sort of "we support X" only to find out that they are actually doing nothing for the cause or are actively working against it while promoting.
04/24/2012
humblepie humblepie
Other because you didn't have an option for people who like Starbucks. I've been to cafes with way more expensive drinks, and the Starbucks near me is really convenient (it even has a drive through).

I was glad to hear about their position on same-sex marriage, and it makes me feel better about shopping there. I don't think it would make much of a difference if a company I hated took a similar position, but it would definitely make me love a company I already like even more!
04/24/2012
Raigne Raigne
Stormy and P'Gell: I can understand the point of view though. Recently, people were really upset when the Nature Conservancy announced a partnership with the company that makes Miracle Gro. They thought it was a bad move. About a month later the news hit that one of the brand's lines of bird seeds was actually toxic and there were legal proceedings in the works. The company was trying to "green" their image before the shitstorm hit.

I don't really think that's what starbucks is doing, though.
04/25/2012
GONE! GONE!
Well, I don't hate Starbuck's, so this would probably make me gravitate towards them a little more if I wanted an overpriced coffee drink. Like, if I was downtown where a Peet's, Starbucks, and other coffee place are all within walking distance of each other this might make me want to go to Starbucks marginally more because all three are too expensive.
04/25/2012
Errant Venture Errant Venture
I wouldn't encourage people to buy a company's products simply because they support a specific cause I support. I'd merely encourage people to support the cause. They can make up their own minds on the company and their product.
04/25/2012
Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by P'Gell
I have a different take on this issue. I don't hate Starbucks coffee. Where I live, their prices are average for upscale coffee. I do prefer to patronize small business, owner/operator coffee houses on the rare occasion I have some coffee. But, ... More
I never said they weren't allowed to support causes, I said that I doubt their intentions. I'm allowed to think that way.
04/25/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
I never said they weren't allowed to support causes, I said that I doubt their intentions. I'm allowed to think that way.
Of course you are.

We're like the intense Debate Team in High School, aren't we?

Love ya, Stormy.
04/25/2012
Woman China Woman China
Oh dear Snuffleopagus. I did not put in an option for those who like Starbucks coffee.

My apologies!!!
04/25/2012
Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by P'Gell
Of course you are.

We're like the intense Debate Team in High School, aren't we?

Love ya, Stormy.
We really are!! That's too funny! Loves ya too, P'Gell!
04/25/2012
Various Various
If I already don't like a company, I'm not going to start going there because the now support a cause BUT I will leave a company for voicing that they don't agree with a cause that is near and dear to me. For example, I love Target I shopped there weekly until I heard they donated to a campaign against gay marriage, haven't been there since. I also refuse to eat at KFC knowing now that they serve Tyson chicken.
04/25/2012
gsfanatic gsfanatic
Honestly, no, because I don't want to spend money on something unnecessary, like a product I don't like. If I want to support a charity, I donate directly, and don't get something I don't particularly want.
04/27/2012
catastic catastic
Starbucks is way too expensive.
05/04/2012
Woman China Woman China
Thank-you everyone for your answers!!!
05/04/2012
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