Is an omission really a lie?

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Is an omission really a lie?

southernhawtie southernhawtie
Who here thinks that an omission is a lie?
12/02/2010
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Porfiriato Porfiriato
Of course, it is still deception.
12/02/2010
Onanist Onanist
My ex wife used to conveniently leave out important information in our discussions and it drove me up the wall. It definitely is deception.
12/06/2010
LavenderSkies LavenderSkies
Not a lie, but I wouldn't call it full honesty.
12/06/2010
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Quote:
Originally posted by southernhawtie
Who here thinks that an omission is a lie?
Any form of deceptive behavior will hurt your relationship eventually. The most devastating blow I ever got from Sigel was when he told me that he didn't lie, I just didn't ask the "right questions". No partner should ever have to play 20 questions and verbally paint you in the corner to just get the truth! Being truthful might kill your relationship but lying even by omission will kill your soul.
12/06/2010
~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
Yes, it is a lie of omission.
12/06/2010
maskineri maskineri
Does it really matter what you call it? All the disputes on the subject remind me of some dirty lawyer tricks. There's no court, no jury. The only reason of this question is trying to make a deal with your own conscience.
You may call it a lie, you may call it ommission, but in the end, it's all very simple: either you're honest or you're not. You can't be a little pregnant. Sorry to break it to you like that.
12/06/2010
Illusional Illusional
Quote:
Originally posted by Airen Wolf
Any form of deceptive behavior will hurt your relationship eventually. The most devastating blow I ever got from Sigel was when he told me that he didn't lie, I just didn't ask the "right questions". No partner should ever have to ...
I agree.
However, with some people...I know they're brash and hurtful... so I leave out things I know I'm sensitive to
12/06/2010
Tori Rebel Tori Rebel
Quote:
Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
Yes, it is a lie of omission.
Seconded.
12/06/2010
Kim! Kim!
Generally. Not telling someone that their outfit makes them look heavier is generally seen as acceptable, especially if the opinion is not asked for by that individual. There are people who do appreciate the information though.

Cheating on your partner and not telling them is deception and a type of lie.

I'd say it's a gray area. If someone is going out of the way to hide something then it is definitely turning into a flat out lie.
12/06/2010
darthkitt3n darthkitt3n
I don't think it would be a lie if you just aren't telling them something that is not important at all, like the names of all your ex boyfriends or something. Though, if it is a major issue, like cheating or something, then yeah, I'd say it might as well be a lie.
12/06/2010
Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
"To lie by omission is to remain silent and thereby withhold from someone else a vital piece (or pieces) of information. The silence is deceptive in that it gives a false impression to the person from whom the information was withheld. It subverts the truth; it is a way to manipulate someone into altering their behavior to suit the desire of the person who intentionally withheld the vital information; and, most importantly, it's a gross violation of another person's right of self-determination." ~ from The Art of Lying


I think "vital" is the key word here.
12/06/2010
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Quote:
Originally posted by Illusional
I agree.
However, with some people...I know they're brash and hurtful... so I leave out things I know I'm sensitive to
Oh heck I don't mean to suggest brutal honesty sometimes softening the edges is very loving. Discretion is more than acceptable...for example not telling my guy his breath smells like road kill but offering him a piece of chewing gum that cleans teeth is much nicer and sometimes ignoring something that irks me keeps things into perspective. I tend to blow up about little things and suddenly we are in a screaming match that would make fishermen and their wives blush. However feeling like the really hurtful things you do are fine if your partner doesn't know about them (ie: cheating on promises) only multiplies the hurt when the partner finds out.
12/06/2010
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Quote:
Originally posted by Carrie Ann
"To lie by omission is to remain silent and thereby withhold from someone else a vital piece (or pieces) of information. The silence is deceptive in that it gives a false impression to the person from whom the information was withheld. It ...
Beautifully said and quoted.
12/06/2010
jdloelo jdloelo
I agree, its still a lie.
12/06/2010
ToyGeek ToyGeek
Deliberately not telling someone something they need to know is a lie of omission. Forgetting to mention some irrelevant piece of trivia -- not so much. Hiding something or cover it up is deceit. Telling someone something in good faith, only to have circumstances later change -- not deceit. I think for something to count as a lie, there needs to be an intent to deceive. Mistakes are not lies.
12/06/2010
Harlequin Harlequin
its a lie.
12/10/2010
MrRainybowbow MrRainybowbow
By leaveing out anything purposly is in fact lieing, its called a half truth.
12/29/2010
MrRainybowbow MrRainybowbow
By leaveing out anything purposly is in fact lieing, its called a half truth.
12/29/2010
Taylor Taylor
I wouldn't call it a lie, but I also don't think it is any better than lying
12/29/2010
danellejohns danellejohns
I believe that it is still a lie. Because you are knowingly leaving out something. But not all omissions are bad.
01/20/2011
indiglo indiglo
I agree with what's been said. It is definitely deception and deception will definitely hurt a relationship.
01/21/2011
Orion Orion
Quote:
Originally posted by Carrie Ann
"To lie by omission is to remain silent and thereby withhold from someone else a vital piece (or pieces) of information. The silence is deceptive in that it gives a false impression to the person from whom the information was withheld. It ...
This is the perfect way to look at it here builds a false image of that person as well
01/21/2011
mrs.mckrakn mrs.mckrakn
of course
01/22/2011
*HisMrs* *HisMrs*
Quote:
Originally posted by Porfiriato
Of course, it is still deception.
I agree!
01/30/2011
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