Activity Ranking

You bring up some interesting points. I hope you realize that posting some of them kind of seems like you are whining about not being provided with the recognition you feel you deserve. I am not saying you are not a great reviewer, because I think you are, but it sounds like you are complaining that people with a lot of unverified reviews are being unfairly ranked higher than you. When they opened the review program back up to allow for unverified reviews, I believe it was late March of this year, some of us took the opportunity to share our thoughts on a lot of toys we had purchased with our own money and provided reviews without compensation just to help other buyers out and for the joy of writing. Dame Demi particularly took to the task with passion and quickly cemented herself at the top of the reviewer charts by shear numbers of reviews alone. I slowly worked my way up until I was where I am and have kind of stayed there. Essin' Em and AAG have always been popular and were near the top of the charts historically and have adapted to the new situation by being involved and continuing to review on a regular basis. Bulma is very unique in that she has hardly any verified reviews, but she clearly enjoys the community and likes to help people out by writing reviews of things she has purchased and has experience with. With all of this in mind, it makes the following comment that you made interesting to me:"I have seen "Dame Demi, Bulma, Jimbo Jones, Essin Em and AAG" as top reviewers for as long as I can remember. Given that Dame Demi has 211 reviews, Bulma 51, Jimbo Jones 41 etc... many of these are unverified reviews. I only have 23 reviews, including some unverified reviews and have been with the program since the beginning (or almost)."You memory must not be very good because Dame Demi has only been at the top of the charts since about May, I have only been up there since June and Bulma just started reviewing in June, so she has only been up there since July or August. Also, two of the five people you have listed have been with the program longer than you and have more reviews than you. Other people that have been with the program longer than you and have more reviews than you are Chris, Destri, and Ansley Agnello. If you were just going by time with the program and number of verified reviews, then you would probably still not be in the top five, but you would be much closer to number 5 so you probably see that situation better for you than the current one.All that being said, I don't disagree with some of your points about how activity should be treated in regards to our ratings, it just seems like you don't like where the program has headed as of late and want to go back to the way it was. I think there were some nice things about how the program was running before, but I really like a lot of the new features that Eden Fantasys has decided to implement along with the new program this forum being one of them.Don't get me wrong, here, I am not trying to attack you in any way, I am just not clear as to your point in talking about the currently highest rated reviewers and complaining that we have a lot of unverified reviews.

when i read the original post i read it as praising those named for the amount of effort and work they put into reviews - i didn't for one moment see it as a "whine" or complaint - if anything it was praising themi am not trying to be contrary but just wanted to say that i really think the post was praising and not complaining

when i read the original post i read it as praising those named for the amount of effort and work they put into reviews - i didn't for one moment see it as a "whine" or complaint - if anything it was praising themi am not trying to be contrary but just wanted to say that i really think the post was praising and not complaining

To clarify...The original tone of the message was *NOT* about either verified or unverified reviews as better than others. The point was that the *Current* ranking system places a higher point value on verified reviews. I do not know what the proposed system will do.I personally feel that all reviews should be rated the same- by a panel as discussed on the other thread. The main reason is that *unverified* reviews provide incredible incentives for reviewers to actually purchase toys, rather than just wait for the free ones. It's a huge benefit for Eden and the review community. (If that puts me at the bottom, so be it. Despite what some people might think- this isn't about my rating.)I have no problem with most of the reviewers having a higher rank than mine, and started this post primarily because I felt that their high ranks were due in at least part from "activity" not just reviews. Under the last thread, this status would change. Bulma, in particular, felt that *activity* should documented. I believe that spending time on Eden does increase one's knowledge about toys, products, etc and should be reflected.As for my memory, and exact dates. I'll just assume anyone else is right. I've been working on other stuff to be too exact. Forgive me.The question is- if there is a "activity rating" which is separate from a "review rating" what should it include?- email messages- responses to email messages- comments on other reviews- follow up comments on your own reviews- writing fantasy's- reading reviews- reading forum posts- writing forum posts- time logged into the site? (And doing anything else on your computer?)Those of you that are *active* might have a lot more suggestions here. I think that the entire concept of what defines *activity* is very vague.

To clarify...The original tone of the message was *NOT* about either verified or unverified reviews as better than others. The point was that the *Current* ranking system places a higher point value on verified reviews. I do not know what the proposed system will do.I personally feel that all reviews should be rated the same- by a panel as discussed on the other thread. The main reason is that *unverified* reviews provide incredible incentives for reviewers to actually purchase toys, rather than just wait for the free ones. It's a huge benefit for Eden and the review community. (If that puts me at the bottom, so be it. Despite what some people might think- this isn't about my rating.)I have no problem with most of the reviewers having a higher rank than mine, and started this post primarily because I felt that their high ranks were due in at least part from "activity" not just reviews. Under the last thread, this status would change. Bulma, in particular, felt that *activity* should documented. I believe that spending time on Eden does increase one's knowledge about toys, products, etc and should be reflected.As for my memory, and exact dates. I'll just assume anyone else is right. I've been working on other stuff to be too exact. Forgive me.The question is- if there is a "activity rating" which is separate from a "review rating" what should it include?- email messages- responses to email messages- comments on other reviews- follow up comments on your own reviews- writing fantasy's- reading reviews- reading forum posts- writing forum posts- time logged into the site? (And doing anything else on your computer?)Those of you that are *active* might have a lot more suggestions here. I think that the entire concept of what defines *activity* is very vague.

While I don't want to cause any conflict, I will just give my honest opinion.I have only been with the program since May. I have a total of 16 reviews to date, only ONE is verified. This is simply because I'm new. It takes quite a bit of time now to get a toy for a verified review, where I have read before the program change, they were sent out very rapidly.I've personally never really cared when reading a review if it's verified or unverified, as long as the review was helpful. The only real difference is that I know that the verified toy was free.I don't feel that I should be cast aside simply because I don't have a lot of verified reviews. Maybe that's not what you meant it as, but that's how I have interpreted it: that my unverified reviews are much inferior to verified reviews. I will never be very high on the ranking list and I'm okay with that. I just don't understand how spending my own money on a toy, taking the time to write a quality unverified review, makes my review that much less important than a verified review. Like I said, maybe I completely misinterpreted what you wrote. And I apologize if that is the case.As far as the current top 5, I believe they belong there. There are also a few others that are high on my list as well. These reviewers are active on the site and I've asked most of them with help when choosing a toy. They got back to me promptly, and if they didn't know the answer, they tracked down someone who did. They fact that I saw they were active encouraged me to seek them out for help because I knew I'd get a prompt answer. I've seen them make comments on others reviews and they have also commented on my reviews and helped me improve the way I write mine.I agree with you that activity isn't the end all of EdenFantasys, but it is important and many enjoy it. I completely recognize the fact that I am very new here, but we all have to start somewhere. This post isn't meant to cause problems, I'm just giving my opinion.

Same here. I was suppose to get my first toy but then there is that whole mass canceling thing going on now. Hopefully getting new assignments will help my ranking go up. But with all the changes going on now I'm afraid it's going to be hard to keep up with everything.

Okay, I am not sure where I am on the food chain (JImbo-halp-you seem to be the guru )However, I have been here for a bit, and I have to say that I notice a little irritation here as of late, and it is a little discouraging. I don't spend a lot of time in the forum, admittedly, but I do lurk and read.My dos pesos, WE R HERE FOR ORGSMZ (the a was omitted for effect-laugh now)We have it made folks. They give us a nice little piece of the internet for free, give us fun things to play with, and then we get to write dirty ditties about what we did with them AND THEY POST IT!! I would like to be well thought of and I appreciate anyone who takes the time to read my drivel and comment on it, but truly I am enough of a rock star in my own mind...... I do not have enough time to do unverified reviews. I have done one I think. I want to do more, but between my career, my kids, and my interwebz shenanigans I just get too slam busy. If someone makes the time to do reviews they are otherwise NOT obligated to do, that is fantastic. They are contributing to this community and I say PRAISE! As long as the intent is for the greater good and not just for the recognition, I can't argue with it.Just one thing, don't do a dump of 25 TERRIBLE unverified reviews. K?Kisses All, LURVE YOU

Okay, I am not sure where I am on the food chain (JImbo-halp-you seem to be the guru )However, I have been here for a bit, and I have to say that I notice a little irritation here as of late, and it is a little discouraging. I don't spend a lot of time in the forum, admittedly, but I do lurk and read.My dos pesos, WE R HERE FOR ORGSMZ (the a was omitted for effect-laugh now)We have it made folks. They give us a nice little piece of the internet for free, give us fun things to play with, and then we get to write dirty ditties about what we did with them AND THEY POST IT!! I would like to be well thought of and I appreciate anyone who takes the time to read my drivel and comment on it, but truly I am enough of a rock star in my own mind...... I do not have enough time to do unverified reviews. I have done one I think. I want to do more, but between my career, my kids, and my interwebz shenanigans I just get too slam busy. If someone makes the time to do reviews they are otherwise NOT obligated to do, that is fantastic. They are contributing to this community and I say PRAISE! As long as the intent is for the greater good and not just for the recognition, I can't argue with it.Just one thing, don't do a dump of 25 TERRIBLE unverified reviews. K?Kisses All, LURVE YOU

I don't understand this whole ranking process I see some people who have written 1 review with a very high ranking, and others with lots of reviews with a low ranking. I write reviews because I want feedback from other reviewers, and want to learn about products I may want to buy. I haven't received any free toys, but I continue to buy and try to write reviews when time permits. Sometimes the ranking gets to be a ego thing. I have learned a lot from some of the highest ranked DD, Jimbo, Belma, AAG, CW, and many others, the people that spend the time on the web site should have a high ranking isn't that what this is all about?

Okay, I am not sure where I am on the food chain (JImbo-halp-you seem to be the guru )However, I have been here for a bit, and I have to say that I notice a little irritation here as of late, and it is a little discouraging. I don't spend a lot of time in the forum, admittedly, but I do lurk and read.My dos pesos, WE R HERE FOR ORGSMZ (the a was omitted for effect-laugh now)We have it made folks. They give us a nice little piece of the internet for free, give us fun things to play with, and then we get to write dirty ditties about what we did with them AND THEY POST IT!! I would like to be well thought of and I appreciate anyone who takes the time to read my drivel and comment on it, but truly I am enough of a rock star in my own mind...... I do not have enough time to do unverified reviews. I have done one I think. I want to do more, but between my career, my kids, and my interwebz shenanigans I just get too slam busy. If someone makes the time to do reviews they are otherwise NOT obligated to do, that is fantastic. They are contributing to this community and I say PRAISE! As long as the intent is for the greater good and not just for the recognition, I can't argue with it.Just one thing, don't do a dump of 25 TERRIBLE unverified reviews. K?Kisses All, LURVE YOU

Any review should count. The lower priced items are ones that get a lot of attention because most shoppers have a price limit. They want to know if they're getting their moneys worth. Most reviewers take the time out of their day to type about a product, whether or not their review helps out, all that matters is that it's there for a customer to read.I'm going to be honest. I've seen some reviews that do nothing for the product but only go over the product description and talk specs.. I've also seen reviews where it seems like people are copying other reviewer's reviews almost word for word... HOWEVER, there are so many fresh, intuitive, and intelligent reviews here that are the reason why this program exists. And some of those smart and witty reviews are for the cheapest products around. I almost always shop on a budget so it's those reviews that I like to seek out, I'm glad they're there.

I've had some thoughts on "activity" and follow up reviews lately. I think that follow up reviews are fantastic, but I was looking at several of my own reviews. Books, videos or toys that I didn't like in the first place do not lend themselves well to follow up reviews. Any thoughts?