How do you deal with a student who takes none of your suggestions?

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How do you deal with a student who takes none of your suggestions?

Do emu Do emu
I had a student in the past who really didn't seem like they cared about improving their reviews at all. I would spend a lot of time giving them constructive criticism and prompts to think about. After submitting it back to me again, I noticed maybe one or two minor changes, but basically the review stayed the same, even after pointing out grammatical errors and typos they overlooked. It took three or four tries before anything was significantly changed, and even after that, I feel like they did the bare minimum to get through it. They eventually fixed the errors, at least, but the review was still lacking a lot of information that I suggested they include. After seeing how this was going, I reluctantly published their minimum standards review. In the comments, people even asked if this person had thought about going through the mentor program. It's as if my mentoring was for nothing. Have you ever had something similar happen to you? I wanted to work with them and they may have been trying hard, but they didn't even communicate with me. It was so frustrating!

(This was more of a venting session for me, I guess. Thanks for reading. )
04/15/2013
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MrWill MrWill
Quote:
Originally posted by Do emu
I had a student in the past who really didn't seem like they cared about improving their reviews at all. I would spend a lot of time giving them constructive criticism and prompts to think about. After submitting it back to me again, I noticed ...
If they don't listen, don't heed your advice, and aren't doing what they are asked to do: Fail them. It's simple, and it sounds harsh, but just letting them go isn't the right thing to do.


It might make you look mean, but the idea of "Oh, you tried, so I'm gonna pass you" is a big part of the problem with society today!


If I wasn't doing what I was asked as a student I would expect to be failed.
04/15/2013
charmedtomeetyou charmedtomeetyou
I agree with MrWilly. I suggest things to students, and if they don't follow through and make the corrections, or acknowledge what I said and respond in some way, I ask them about it. I have in the past said "I suggest you add information x, y and z, were you planning on adding that to your review?".....sometimes , it was simply overlooked as the whole process is new and overwhelming. It's rare that if you ask them point blank, they will say "no, I'm not adding it". Until you're happy with the review, just don't publish it. If you aren't happy with your student and feel they aren't putting in the effort, I would express that concern to them.
04/15/2013
MrWill MrWill
Quote:
Originally posted by charmedtomeetyou
I agree with MrWilly. I suggest things to students, and if they don't follow through and make the corrections, or acknowledge what I said and respond in some way, I ask them about it. I have in the past said "I suggest you add information x, ...
I agree, give them a chance to fix things, tell them to fix things, and if they don't comply kick them. It's harsh but there shouldn't be a quick pass to advanced reviewer status just because a student is a pain in the ass. lol
04/15/2013
Sammi Sammi
I'd agree - try asking first why they don't want to make the changes or take your suggestions into consideration. If they're not responsive and don't want to fix the reviews, it's ok to fail them and not publish the reviews.
04/15/2013
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