What do you do if a student just doesn't take your advice?

Contributor: SMichelle SMichelle
Say that you have a student that just seems to ignore your advice... what do you do?

Do you eventually publish their reviews anyway? Or do you simply fail them?
07/18/2012
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Contributor: Beck Beck
Quote:
Originally posted by SMichelle
Say that you have a student that just seems to ignore your advice... what do you do?

Do you eventually publish their reviews anyway? Or do you simply fail them?
Well they have to submit at least two of their reviews to you before you can fail them, so you have to wait for that. But if the student doesn't want to listen to me and doesn't improve to show they can at least write what I see as useful; then yes, I will fail them.
07/18/2012
Contributor: AskEden AskEden
Remember that it's the mentor's opinion whether a student graduates or not. If the mentor doesn't feel the student met their expectations and refused to work with them, they aren't obligated to graduate them. This is why mentors get the gift card regardless of the student passing their class or not.

#AskEden
07/19/2012
Contributor: K101 K101
Quote:
Originally posted by SMichelle
Say that you have a student that just seems to ignore your advice... what do you do?

Do you eventually publish their reviews anyway? Or do you simply fail them?
No way. I don't think that'd be ethical as a mentor. I mean if they are NOT doing what they signed up for--which is to try and incorporate your insights/suggestions into their reviews and improve, then why bother?

I don't expect a student to do every thing I suggest and mostly, they don't. They very often still cut things a bit shorter than I'd have preferred, but if they're getting the majority of it down and truly making a very good effort, I'll pass them when they are ready, but only then. I mean I won't force someone to stay. I always give them the option, but I'll be honest and tell them that they're still not putting forth enough effort for me to be comfy graduating them. I don't want someone writing awful reviews after having ME as a mentor. If it was really bad and they wouldn't EVER make an effort, I'd simply do nothing or cancel. I would not pass someone who made little to no effort.
07/22/2012
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Like any teacher sometimes you just can't pass a student. Make sure though, that your student is actually disregarding your efforts and isn't misunderstanding you. I've seen instances where a student is confused but intimidated to say so.
If he/she just isn't trying, however, you can outright fail them....thank goodness that seems to rarely occur!
07/22/2012