#Announcement - Changes to the Review Program pt.01 (Ideas for the future direction)

Contributor: El-Jaro El-Jaro
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Originally posted by Kitka
The shipping on the new buyout idea seems to be a big concern with a lot of folks, I hope this question gets answered soon because I'm wondering this too.
This still hasn't been solidified yet. Once it does get settled, we'll make a forum announcement.
03/28/2013
Contributor: shelberlynn shelberlynn
My opinion is that this is great, adding points to the reviews would be great. I love the free assignments because if I find I don't like them I didn't pay, so deep discounts and stuff would be nice. I also think that free shipping on buyouts should happen... even with discounts the shipping isn't cheap. And we can have other shipping options that aren't free for those who can afford it and then free slow shipping for those of us who are poor...
03/28/2013
Contributor: PeaceToTheMiddleEast PeaceToTheMiddleEast
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Originally posted by PropertyOfPotter
There was an assigned video program where you received a free product in exchange for a text and video review. On top of the free item, you also received 2500 points. I believe Carrie Ann was saying that they're doing away with the assigned ... more
Oh yes I remember this one. I never took part in that one though. I was doing the regular video reviews and getting permission to do them. Then got the points for that.
03/28/2013
Contributor: PeaceToTheMiddleEast PeaceToTheMiddleEast
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Originally posted by PropertyOfPotter
Yes! The regular reviews you request from Carrie Ann still provide you with points. I don't believe that's changing. However, the assigned video program and the adult video program are more than likely being eliminated.
Glad to hear that we will still get points for this.
03/28/2013
Contributor: srexom srexom
doesn't sound to bad.
03/28/2013
Contributor: Mr. E Mr. E
These changes sound good.
I just want to add that I am pleased that Eden currently offers free domestic shipping on most products with only a $35.00 order. This seems quite reasonable to me. I used to occasionally have difficulty meeting the previous $59 threshold.
03/28/2013
Contributor: TheSlyFox TheSlyFox
I honestly LOVE this idea. It would make things a lot easier in the long run and you wouldn't have to go crazy looking for a monthly review product that only has 3 or less reviews/pending reviews
03/28/2013
Contributor: snowminx snowminx
I just want to ask this....with this in place is there any need to become an advanced reviewer now since there won't be any more free products?
03/28/2013
Contributor: charmedtomeetyou charmedtomeetyou
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Originally posted by snowminx
I just want to ask this....with this in place is there any need to become an advanced reviewer now since there won't be any more free products?
I mentioned that early in thread...it seems like it won't be necessary to make the distinction, but I guess we'll see how it all shakes out!
03/28/2013
Contributor: Heartthrob Heartthrob
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Originally posted by Gary
Alright, please read carefully. We are NOT going to be eliminating the Review Program. I repeat, we are NOT going to be eliminating the Review Program. (For those of you who get panicky) However at this point the program does need a major overhaul. ... more
I've been reading the comments and thinking. I knew that at some point, the free assignments would become too expensive for Eden, so I understand the buy out option. So, I have been thinking about what everyone has said and here are my two cents:

I do not think that rank should be the only thing considered in the level of discount. Many people have voiced their concerns that people can pad their rank quite quickly. Instead, why don't we use length of time at Eden as a review writer to help curb the problem of rank padding? I know many people have been here for years (myself included) and have proven themselves loyal to Eden in that fashion. I also haven't seen many of those people comment, so I thought I'd chime in.

I have seen a lot of changes with Eden since I have been here. It has been over 5 years at least, so the review program has grown a lot since then. If the buy out option discount is given some sort of seniority level, I would recommend that time spent at Eden (if that is easily tracked in your system) be given a high level of consideration. Nothing shows dedication to the company more than loyalty for a number of years.

Because I had not seen that suggestion thrown into the conversation I offer it now.
03/28/2013
Contributor: Allison.Wilder Allison.Wilder
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Originally posted by Heartthrob
I've been reading the comments and thinking. I knew that at some point, the free assignments would become too expensive for Eden, so I understand the buy out option. So, I have been thinking about what everyone has said and here are my two ... more
I think this is a good idea in theory, but it could lead to a lot of hurt feelings from people that haven't been here that long. I've been loyal to Eden for a year and that's nothing compared to people that have been here for 3,4,5 years. It's not that I wouldn't have been loyal, I just didn't know about the site 5 years ago and it would seem silly to penalize someone for not knowing about the site as soon as others did.
03/28/2013
Contributor: Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
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Originally posted by snowminx
I just want to ask this....with this in place is there any need to become an advanced reviewer now since there won't be any more free products?
Yes, for the deep buy out discounts and increased points for writing a review. Non advanced reviewers will not get the buy out discounts
03/28/2013
Contributor: snowminx snowminx
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
Yes, for the deep buy out discounts and increased points for writing a review. Non advanced reviewers will not get the buy out discounts
Well thanks for answering =)
Also, where do I find more info about buy out discounts?
03/28/2013
Contributor: charmedtomeetyou charmedtomeetyou
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
Yes, for the deep buy out discounts and increased points for writing a review. Non advanced reviewers will not get the buy out discounts
Ah...I see....that's interesting!
03/28/2013
Contributor: El-Jaro El-Jaro
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Originally posted by snowminx
Well thanks for answering =)
Also, where do I find more info about buy out discounts?
It will be up soon.

Here's another direction to think about for rank:
Instead of #.# ranks, what if it were like a three or four level jello mold with different flavors? Each layer has a different flavor (flavor = buy-out discount level).

Just something to have a ponder on
03/28/2013
Contributor: snowminx snowminx
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Originally posted by El-Jaro
It will be up soon.

Here's another direction to think about for rank:
Instead of #.# ranks, what if it were like a three or four level jello mold with different flavors? Each layer has a different flavor (flavor = buy-out discount ... more
I think that would be easier to keep up with, also jello or ice cream cones with different layers would look cute on peoples' profiles haha
03/28/2013
Contributor: Rossie Rossie
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Originally posted by El-Jaro
Not really a way we can tell. We can find plagiarism pretty easy. But short of coming to someone's house and demanding to see their sex toy collection, there isn't a verification process that would work.

(Where do you keep your dildos!)
Thank you for responding to my question, even though it's off-topic.
03/28/2013
Contributor: Gary Gary
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Originally posted by Trysexual
This may be a stupid question, so pardon me if I sound ignorant (and slightly off topic). Does EF generate much revenue from advertising? (or avoid it?). I was always wondering if part of the reason the points for activity/forum participation etc. ... more
Yes I cannot be too specific here, but mainly because I do not have much direct involvement in those areas. Eden does more mainstream advertising now than ever before, but the core has always been to focus on other areas like seo, blogger campaigns, event sponsorships, a number of things in that manner.

The review program directly helps our customers. That is how it is sustainable. And honestly, the changes we are discussing with the review program are really more for the benefit of the community. If the products have so many reviews already, creating a system to better sustain the review community is not mandatory to serve the customers needs.

I do appreciate your point of view in asking such questions.
03/28/2013
Contributor: Gary Gary
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Originally posted by Incendiaire
I like these ideas and think that they're all really good.

One thing I would like to see added though is free shipping for buyout assignments. Shipping can really push up the cost of an order, especially if you're an international ... more
If you are getting a DEEP discounts, points back on your order, points for your review, and you are able to pay for everything in points... that we give you... free shipping would be nice, but I don't think it would be unfair to consider that part of your order.
03/28/2013
Contributor: Gary Gary
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Originally posted by charmedtomeetyou
I agree. New people either love Eden and become active here and get the perks, or they seem to peter out and fade away. If you put the time in and try to add to the community, it's nice to be rewarded. It will motivate people to jump in.
I do see how EF can be a little overwhelming. But with so many perks, programs, activities and resources on top of the store, it is a little difficult to stream line all the info, while constantly changing and trying to improve.
03/28/2013
Contributor: Gary Gary
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Originally posted by Rossie
I'm all for the new direction proposed, I've never asked for free assignments, and only use the buyout discount anyway.

I have one question:
Is there any way to determine whether a person is or is not writing a fake review? ... more
If you are even suspicious, just send any one of us a message. We do have methods for investigating these things.
03/28/2013
Contributor: Gary Gary
While I am not opposed to hearing suggestions for the Description Review Program, this is really not the time or the place. The program as is, is not changing, and we only send out stuff we need reviewed.
03/28/2013
Contributor: js250 js250
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Originally posted by Gary
While I am not opposed to hearing suggestions for the Description Review Program, this is really not the time or the place. The program as is, is not changing, and we only send out stuff we need reviewed.
You said the milestone reward will still be in effect. In another thread--it was stated that you guys may consider awarding points or making changes for those of us over 200+ reviews (example: 300,400,500...). Is this still a consideration or are the rewards going to stop at 200th review still?
03/28/2013
Contributor: Gary Gary
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Originally posted by ShadowedSeductress
I totally love this idea so much!

I do have one concern though. Would the buyout assignments be limited to 1 a month like our free assignment now? I really love being able to get more than one buyout a month now and would love it to stay that ... more
I am assuming the limit will be - how often you submit your reviews. Everyone works at a different pace.
03/28/2013
Contributor: Gary Gary
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Originally posted by Lovely Jubblies
If you do the buyouts, don't you have to review them?
The discount you receive is in exchange for doing a review on a buyout assignment.
03/28/2013
Contributor: Gary Gary
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Originally posted by hillys
would we still be able to review any product we already own if we really want to share our opinion on it? (or do a mini review just talking about personal comments for less points?)
A review that you do, on an item you already own is called a 'Not Assigned' review. You can definitely still do these.
03/28/2013
Contributor: Gary Gary
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Originally posted by Lady of the Lab
So far I am optimistic about such changes. I know that I would appreciate the review program even more if it could reward based on the usefulness of a review. In hindsight I wish I had spent more time thinking before posting in the last update ... more
I agree with this sentiment, if you can think of a foolproof method please let me know!
03/28/2013
Contributor: Gary Gary
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Originally posted by js250
You said the milestone reward will still be in effect. In another thread--it was stated that you guys may consider awarding points or making changes for those of us over 200+ reviews (example: 300,400,500...). Is this still a consideration or are the ... more
To the best of my knowledge, no one from EF has said anything about expanding the Milestone assignments, only that there is currently no plan to remove them.
03/28/2013
Contributor: PropertyOfPotter PropertyOfPotter
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Originally posted by Gary
To the best of my knowledge, no one from EF has said anything about expanding the Milestone assignments, only that there is currently no plan to remove them.
It was discussed in a suggestion thread a while back that perhaps they would award points/change to gold status for a period of time for those who reach higher milestones. It was simply mentioned, but no one said that it was going into effect.
03/28/2013
Contributor: Heartthrob Heartthrob
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Originally posted by Gary
To the best of my knowledge, no one from EF has said anything about expanding the Milestone assignments, only that there is currently no plan to remove them.
Great! I love the Milestone Assignments.
03/28/2013