#EdenTasks - Upcoming Change

Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by P'Gell
Oh, I see. I misunderstood. I'm still a little nervous about doing my first one. I'm a little bit of a perfectionist, but I don't want to alter anyone's voice.

Time and practice like anything else.
I worried about that with one of the first ones I edited. I almost changed something that was slightly off grammatically, but didn't because it appeared too stylized to be a mistake.
09/19/2011
Contributor: Sammi Sammi
Hi guys,
There are roughly the same number of editors now as last time. As has been mentioned above, it's a combination of everyone being eager to do their number of reviews and snapping them up when they appear, and also how many reviews are coming in. Things will settle down soon, I believe.
09/19/2011
Contributor: M121212 M121212
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
That was kind of my point. As can probably be detected by my highly decreased activity on the forum, I don't have as much time to sit around. I'm in athletic training, trying to be a more diligent housekeeper, and I have other things that ... more
Ooh rollerskating. That sound fun/hot!
09/20/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by M121212
Ooh rollerskating. That sound fun/hot!
I can guarantee you that my efforts at roller skating are anything but hot. I have sore muscles all the time and I'm super clumsy.

BUT

Roller Derby is super hot and if you have a league in your area, you should go see them skate. It's ah-mazing! I don't know where, exactly, in BC you are, but there are quite a few!
09/20/2011
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
HELP! I finally found a review to edit. I did what the instructions said, and when it said "Proofread review" it bumps me back to MY reviews I have already done and the review to be edited is NOT there.

What do I do?
09/20/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by P'Gell
HELP! I finally found a review to edit. I did what the instructions said, and when it said "Proofread review" it bumps me back to MY reviews I have already done and the review to be edited is NOT there.

What do I do?
I would release the review and email JR with the review number and explain to him exactly what's happening. Sometimes reviews glitch for whatever reason, but he usually knows why.
09/20/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by P'Gell
HELP! I finally found a review to edit. I did what the instructions said, and when it said "Proofread review" it bumps me back to MY reviews I have already done and the review to be edited is NOT there.

What do I do?
It's usually because either the reviewer became advanced since submitting the review (the task will be available once that person logs in and their status updates) or the account was deleted. If in doubt, email JR.
09/20/2011
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Kindred
It's usually because either the reviewer became advanced since submitting the review (the task will be available once that person logs in and their status updates) or the account was deleted. If in doubt, email JR.
There's an option to bypass your mentor and submit to an editor. I believe this is what is happening with this person's reviews. Sammi is aware of the problem, she was notified yesterday morning but it was snapped up before it could be handled. I've seen it released and locked about six times since then.
09/20/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Ansley
There's an option to bypass your mentor and submit to an editor. I believe this is what is happening with this person's reviews. Sammi is aware of the problem, she was notified yesterday morning but it was snapped up before it could be ... more
As far as I understand and based on what's happened before, it has nothing to do with having a mentor. In this particular case, the reviewer went up for vote and became advanced after submitting the reviews in question. They have not logged into the site since.
09/20/2011
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Kindred
As far as I understand and based on what's happened before, it has nothing to do with having a mentor. In this particular case, the reviewer went up for vote and became advanced after submitting the reviews in question. They have not logged into ... more
Then how are they submitting reviews?
09/20/2011
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Kindred
It's usually because either the reviewer became advanced since submitting the review (the task will be available once that person logs in and their status updates) or the account was deleted. If in doubt, email JR.
I unlocked the review and notified both Sammi and JR. I hope nobody else grabs it.

Can we say something? I mean, I don't want someone else to go through the process of not knowing what they were doing wrong, and if the reviewer wants her review edited, she's been waiting a long time? I don't want to mention a name, though.

Somebody just grabbed it again.
09/20/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by P'Gell
I unlocked the review and notified both Sammi and JR. I hope nobody else grabs it.

Can we say something? I mean, I don't want someone else to go through the process of not knowing what they were doing wrong, and if the reviewer wants her ... more
I would not mention names. You can post the task number and ask editors to stop taking them. However, I'm pretty sure my reason above is correct and they will become available if and when they log in.
09/20/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
That person submitted several reviews, got voted in to Advanced, and never signed back into their account. I think the account was even deleted. Just release it and let JR know there's still some floating around from that person.
09/20/2011
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
That person submitted several reviews, got voted in to Advanced, and never signed back into their account. I think the account was even deleted. Just release it and let JR know there's still some floating around from that person.
It's been handled, thanks.
09/20/2011
Contributor: arewehavingfun? arewehavingfun?
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
This is, more or less, why I'm often neglectful on voting, as well.
I am not a participating editor in the Eden Fantasys program. Sad, that in so many professions, the more experienced hesitate to help the young and up-coming to learn. In my profession (and I am sure in many other professions), we always say: "...the older____________'s eat the young..."
09/21/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by arewehavingfun?
I am not a participating editor in the Eden Fantasys program. Sad, that in so many professions, the more experienced hesitate to help the young and up-coming to learn. In my profession (and I am sure in many other professions), we always say: ... more
I really hope you don't make the assumption that I (or anyone else, really) hesitate to help the up and coming members, because I think many of us go out of our way to help, because we remember how overwhelming the forums can be, and how hard it can be to write reviews.

I don't think it's a fair assumption to say that we eat our newbies, here*




*unless they look tasty and they say yes when I ask nicely.
09/22/2011
Contributor: ToyGurl ToyGurl
I think it's a good idea. Sure, you have to re-apply. But think... there's so many of us applying and the waiting game is awful. Don't you think that if we had a limited time, and took turns, things would go a little faster?
09/22/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
I really hope you don't make the assumption that I (or anyone else, really) hesitate to help the up and coming members, because I think many of us go out of our way to help, because we remember how overwhelming the forums can be, and how hard it ... more
I was pretty much thinking this exact same sentiment, only... not as nicely.

Sorry, my initial response was defensiveness.

I'd like to add that there are many of us, when we're active on the site, who go out of our way to greet new members, offer them help, advise them to find a mentor (if we're not taking students ourselves), and who desire to see the newer members of our community grow into great contributors and even better reviewers.

Personally, I've had a lot on my plate these last few weeks and I've rarely been on the site at all. That doesn't mean that I care less about helping people, I just would rather not accept students at the moment because I can't give them the attention they need/deserve.
09/22/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
I was pretty much thinking this exact same sentiment, only... not as nicely.

Sorry, my initial response was defensiveness.

I'd like to add that there are many of us, when we're active on the site, who go out of our way to greet ... more
Now, now, BBWTT, if we start yelling at people who ask us why we aren't nicer, does that really show our nice/helpful side?

09/22/2011
Contributor: Selective Sensualist Selective Sensualist
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
I was pretty much thinking this exact same sentiment, only... not as nicely.

Sorry, my initial response was defensiveness.

I'd like to add that there are many of us, when we're active on the site, who go out of our way to greet ... more
I agree. That comment was a bit out of left field, and I am not sure what exactly was being referenced. Was this a jibe at the overall reviewing community, or was it just directed to the editors? I also love DS's response--it was very nice (and very funny)!

Overall, this community is extremely supportive of each other, and there are plenty of people who go out of their way to help the newbies learn the ropes. Those of us who have less time to spend here still do what we can to be encouraging.

As far as editing goes, there are plenty of former editors who are willing to answer all the new editors' questions, either on the forums or through private messaging. Kindred has suggested a FAQ section just for the new editors, and different editors have provided help to others anytime they can. Where would one get the idea that the older editors "hesitate to help the young and upcoming to learn"? That is making an unfair assumption without knowing all the facts.

When I was an editor, I told a few people that if they chose to apply to the editing program, they could mention that I recommended them--and I even encouraged a few people to apply. When I edited, I also provided contributors with explanations for any editing changes and linked them to helpful and reputable grammar sites to explain specific grammar rules. I did this specifically to help people to learn and improve. This took me forever to do, though, and not everyone could invest that much time to provide that level of help on each review that they edit. Still, people here do what they can to help and are always willing to answer questions--and since we are each responsible for our own learning, we should show the initiative to ask questions when we need information instead of just begrudging others for not reading our minds and laying the information in our laps.

Anyway, my main point is that different people do different things to help others since we all have different strengths, personalities, and perspectives that allow us to help in different ways. Not all of what we do is visible to the public eye, though, as some people like to quietly help others behind the scenes and out of the public eye.

I take this as a reminder that we all need to continually strive to be more fair in our assessments of others--don't be so judgmental and don't assume that everyone is out to keep others down. Most of us here are a collaborative and supportive bunch who aim to give others a boost up, so those assumptions could not be further from the truth.
09/22/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
Now, now, BBWTT, if we start yelling at people who ask us why we aren't nicer, does that really show our nice/helpful side?

Which is why I didn't respond immediately. I saw the reply shortly after it was made. I didn't think my reply was angry today.
09/22/2011
Contributor: Dawn (Lilac Distraction) Dawn (Lilac Distraction)
Is there an issue with the Task Market right now? I just got an error message when I tried to publish something and it said that the review was not in management status or something, and there are 7 reviews from the same person sitting in the Task Market after over a week of there being no more than two at a time. Something isn't right.
09/22/2011
Contributor: LikeSunshineDust LikeSunshineDust
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Originally posted by Dawn (Lilac Distraction)
Is there an issue with the Task Market right now? I just got an error message when I tried to publish something and it said that the review was not in management status or something, and there are 7 reviews from the same person sitting in the Task ... more
I'm pretty sure those are spam reviews... When I tried to edit one, it brought me to my assignment cart, so the powers that be are probably already clued in.
09/22/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by LikeSunshineDust
I'm pretty sure those are spam reviews... When I tried to edit one, it brought me to my assignment cart, so the powers that be are probably already clued in.
I usually email JR with the task numbers for spam reviews. He usually gets them removed very quickly.
09/22/2011
Contributor: Dawn (Lilac Distraction) Dawn (Lilac Distraction)
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Originally posted by LikeSunshineDust
I'm pretty sure those are spam reviews... When I tried to edit one, it brought me to my assignment cart, so the powers that be are probably already clued in.
They looked a little suspicious to me. I honestly don't think people should get points till their review is published.
09/22/2011
Contributor: Dawn (Lilac Distraction) Dawn (Lilac Distraction)
That person obviously just posted the same reviews under another username.
09/22/2011
Contributor: ToyGurl ToyGurl
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Originally posted by Dawn (Lilac Distraction)
Is there an issue with the Task Market right now? I just got an error message when I tried to publish something and it said that the review was not in management status or something, and there are 7 reviews from the same person sitting in the Task ... more
That's happened to me as well. Twice already!
09/22/2011
Contributor: wetone123 wetone123
Yeah, I wouldn't touch those reviews with a 10 foot pole. The user names don't even come up with "Search"
09/22/2011
Contributor: wetone123 wetone123
Things and people like this make me feel ill in my stomach. They have now posted them a 3rd time under yet a different username
09/22/2011
Contributor: wetone123 wetone123
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Originally posted by Dawn (Lilac Distraction)
Is there an issue with the Task Market right now? I just got an error message when I tried to publish something and it said that the review was not in management status or something, and there are 7 reviews from the same person sitting in the Task ... more
Something is very wrong.
09/22/2011