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lexical lexical
I'm very sorry if there's already a thread on this. I skimmed the latest discussions and didn't see it anywhere.

I just wanted to say that I despise the new tagging system. I really do. I don't like that it forces me to pigeonhole or make assumptions about who ought to use what or where or when. Maybe for some people a toy might be enough for a quickie in a public restroom and for others it requires a soft bed and a good long session to enjoy the sensations. Maybe both, on different occasions!

Also, I always find myself sitting there going..."Well, it could be fun in this situation, OR that one, or even this one that's not mentioned and I can write it in, or maybe it'd backfire in any or ALL of those situations..." It's the same feeling I had when I had to take multiple choice tests in high school. I wanted my open-ended, essay questions! And that's what our reviews are...Detailed responses to a few choice open-ended questions. "What is this toy like? Did it work for you? Will it work for me? Why or why not?"

I violently dislike that this is a requirement on our reviews and I don't feel that it adds anything valuable to them.
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Jen&Clint Jen&Clint
I hear ya. Some I just look at and am thinking I know for a fact that this toy isn't a fast quickie session for me, then again for some it just might be. I always end up getting my hubby to help me on the tags for the who will this be best for, the others are easy for me.

Knowing what I know now I probably would not have requested this dong I did a review on, being that I am new to dildos and dongs this was a mid sized dong and it really took some getting used to for me.
12/03/2009
Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
Maybe we could suggest some tags? It does seem a little one-size-fits-all right now.
12/03/2009
Rockin' Rockin'
When I had to choose tags for my Ride On penis extension review, I really felt like I was choosing the "least incorrect" tag for who the product might be good for. It could be a one-person toy, but it isn't for every "one" person, so "anyone" was out; it isn't really for "any couple," either, but I chose "any couple" because it's geared toward partner play.

I also feel like I'm pigeonholing products for certain people/situations/plac es and they just don't seem to fit right. I don't feel like I know enough about all groups of people or places listed to make an educated suggestion.
12/03/2009
Jen&Clint Jen&Clint
I know it has the space below to add your own, but sometimes you just can't place some toys.
12/03/2009
Epiphora Epiphora
I agree. I'm still so confused about the inclusion of "Baby boomers" in the people list. But the "ambience" one makes even less sense, because, as you've said, different people expect different things from quickies and relaxing times. I can see the point of the people one, and sort of the point of the places one, but ambience is just weird. Is this actually a requirement now? 'Cause that freaks me out.
12/03/2009
ArmyWife Kira ArmyWife Kira
I have to agree on this.
12/03/2009
Jimbo Jones Jimbo Jones
I just type in my own tag if none seem to fit. It is a little annoying, but I don't find it to be that big a deal.
12/03/2009
Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
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Originally posted by Jimbo Jones
I just type in my own tag if none seem to fit. It is a little annoying, but I don't find it to be that big a deal.
Yup. That's why it gives us the option.

Though I'll admit the "ambience" one drives me insane.
12/03/2009
Neuron Geek Neuron Geek
The tags will become optional in near future.
12/03/2009
J's Alley J's Alley
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Originally posted by Neuron Geek
The tags will become optional in near future.
I am really happy to hear this. I don't like the tags. We say in the review who the toys are for and how to use them. I find it a bit redundant.

Umm...and what makes a toy better for one age group than another? I soooo don't get that.

And I really think the whole ambiance thing is retarded...ambiance is way over rated.
12/03/2009
Victoria Victoria
The intentions of the Tags were good - to make toys easier to find and even more 'searchable' than they already are - sort of as a keyword. This first version may need some tweaking, sure - but the the overall idea does have some merit.

What tags do you think would be most useful?
12/03/2009
Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
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Originally posted by Victoria
The intentions of the Tags were good - to make toys easier to find and even more 'searchable' than they already are - sort of as a keyword. This first version may need some tweaking, sure - but the the overall idea does have some merit. ... More
I think things like "super strong" or "moderate" or "quiet" or "loud" or... I don't know. Simple things. I know we have bees and vrooms but you can't search by those things.

Less specific and personal, more about the product, maybe.
12/03/2009
Sir Sir
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
I think things like "super strong" or "moderate" or "quiet" or "loud" or... I don't know. Simple things. I know we have bees and vrooms but you can't search by those things.

Less specific and personal, more about the product, maybe.
I agree with you, Carrie Ann. That would be very good.

As an aside, about the Product Search...I am very confused!
12/03/2009
lexical lexical
Even if we add different categories or write in our own, I still find tagging rather superfluous and, as J's Alley said, very redundant...I'm very relieved to hear that it's going to be optional in the future.

In regards to the tags enhancing the experience for someone searching for toys...If tagging is made optional, then it really won't be aiding in the search. It won't be cohesive as ALL the items won't have tags. Besides, I feel that we already have an absolutely superb search system on here. It's unlike anything I've seen on any other sex toy site. Everyone I recommend this site to has nothing but wonderful things to say about the search mechanisms.

This is how I feel about it...(And I'm mostly just ranting here, so I may be repeating myself some, lol! Sorry!) I like to do the best job I can on these reviews, but when it comes to tagging, I've been just half-assing it and choosing the "least incorrect", like Rockin' with a Cock in mentioned, so that I don't spend the next half hour deliberating on which ones should be checked or what else I can add. I just find myself thinking...I've already described and qualified the toy in my review. Is it really necessary to try do it again, only squished into little, overly-generalized categories?
12/03/2009
lexical lexical
Oops! I forgot to mention, I also think that perhaps Carrie Ann is headed more in the right direction...If we must keep the new tagging system, we shouldn't be tagging when or where or by whom a toy ought to be used. We should be further describing the toy itself. Power level, noise level, size, material, experience-level, etc...But then again...We just did that in the review, lol. I understand it might be a more concise version of the review, but we have the Summary section and the Pros and Cons for that!
12/03/2009
Sammi Sammi
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
I think things like "super strong" or "moderate" or "quiet" or "loud" or... I don't know. Simple things. I know we have bees and vrooms but you can't search by those things.

Less specific and personal, more about the product, maybe.
I like this idea, since I don't think there's an easy way to search off the vrooms and bees.
12/03/2009
Sir Sir
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Originally posted by lexical
Oops! I forgot to mention, I also think that perhaps Carrie Ann is headed more in the right direction...If we must keep the new tagging system, we shouldn't be tagging when or where or by whom a toy ought to be used. We should be further ... More
The reason why it would be good is because it would allow users to search for those things, even though it is redundant.
12/03/2009
lexical lexical
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Originally posted by Sir
The reason why it would be good is because it would allow users to search for those things, even though it is redundant.
Would it be added to the left-hand "refine by" area? Or would people go to the "search" box and type in certain standards? How would that work?
12/04/2009
Rockin' Rockin'
I agree that product description tags would be more useful (and easier to apply) than people/places/ambience s best suited for the toy. Maybe ones having to do with texture? Smooth, bumpy, ribbed... Or things having to do with shape? Straight, gentle curve, sharp curves, hard angles... These are most applicable to insertable toys, please pardon my bias.

I'm glad the tags will become optional soon, and I admit that I didn't realize we could use our own tags. I still didn't know what to type once I realized we had the option to add our own. "People who like green dildos" came to mind, but...wasn't sure how useful that'd be. ^_^
12/04/2009
Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
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Originally posted by Rockin'
I agree that product description tags would be more useful (and easier to apply) than people/places/ambience s best suited for the toy. Maybe ones having to do with texture? Smooth, bumpy, ribbed... Or things having to do with shape? Straight, ... More
I didn't realize we could add our own either but that's a whole 'nother can of worms. I mean, someone could use a tag that no one else would ever use. Maybe we need a tag brainstorming thread so we can more or less be on the same wavelength.
12/04/2009
Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
We typed a couple of our own tags which helps a bit, but I agree that some of the pre-sets make no sense. What would make an item suitable for a "baby boomer" but not a young couple? Never have figured that out. And isn't "teasing a partner' and "couples foreplay" pretty much the same thing?
12/04/2009
Dragon Dragon
The tags are the same across all products as well. Doesn't make sense to have the same tags for ambiance and user for a book as a vibrator.

(Not sure if the system is going to let me sidestep that or not!)
12/04/2009
Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Dragon
The tags are the same across all products as well. Doesn't make sense to have the same tags for ambiance and user for a book as a vibrator.

(Not sure if the system is going to let me sidestep that or not!)
Just could just bypass the "normal" tags by typing in your own for books.
12/04/2009
Dragon Dragon
One of the tags is "places where this product" can be used...

For a book? "bedroom" "bathroom" "couch" "Kitchen" "outdoors" "hammock" "car" "waiting in carpool" "office" "treehouse" "in front of the tv"

You get the point...
12/04/2009
Victoria Victoria
I think some of these tags are perception too - like, for example, some books have more discreet covers than others, therefore making it more fitting for reading anywhere etc.

I suggest we decide on a few new groups of Tags - perhaps changing the People tags a bit to be more: 'solo', 'partner play', 'group situations', 'beginner' and 'advanced'?

Then Places could be simplified too, to be more about whether it is travel-friendly, waterproof,etc.

As far as Ambiance - my feeling is that this is one of the most confusing Tag categories and maybe should be done away with. Your thoughts, everyone?

What do you think the best 3rd category would be?

I think Vrooms and Bees should be searchable on their own - not as a tag. Rating a toy as mild to strong in the tags makes some sense but won't work for anything that is not motorized.

We're looking forward to your feedback!
12/04/2009
Dragon Dragon
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Originally posted by Victoria
I think some of these tags are perception too - like, for example, some books have more discreet covers than others, therefore making it more fitting for reading anywhere etc.

I suggest we decide on a few new groups of Tags - perhaps changing ... More
I will make a list sometime in my brain and return!

I really like the idea of some tags like "discreet", "beginner" "advanced."

But everyone's sexuality is different, everyone's use of a toy, product or book is different and the perceptions of the reviewer and the one reading the review may be dramatically different depending on experience. For instance "group" - only those that have actually participated in group activities would know what toys are appropriate, unless you are considering gag gifts for a party! How does someone who is not lesbian know if that would make a great "lesbian" toy or only a good "alone" toy?

I believe that there should just be one set of tags for a review - you can list "discreet", "beginner" "waterproof" "storage issues" for example, without trying to sort and categorize them.

The other issue with tags is minimum required number and a maximum limit. It's just horrendous.
12/04/2009
Victoria Victoria
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Originally posted by Dragon
I will make a list sometime in my brain and return!

I really like the idea of some tags like "discreet", "beginner" "advanced."

But everyone's sexuality is different, everyone's use of a toy, ... More
Good point - one list of tags might be the best way to go - with a max of maybe 5 and no minimum tags required, having tags be totally optional.
12/04/2009
Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Victoria
I think some of these tags are perception too - like, for example, some books have more discreet covers than others, therefore making it more fitting for reading anywhere etc.

I suggest we decide on a few new groups of Tags - perhaps changing ... More
Your idea for "People" tags would be much easier to work with! We added "strap-on users" to that section too because we know a lady who only shops for harness compatible dils... don't know if that would be helpful to anyone else though.

As for Places, whatever they do I think the list should still keep "Bath" and "Shower" separate, because some toys may be splashproof but you can't submerge them.

As for the third category, "Ambience" doesn't totally suck, but maybe more distinct situations like: Light BDSM, Foreplay, Storage, Public, Sensual Exploration/Massage, etc. would be easier to work with.
12/04/2009
LicentiouslyYours LicentiouslyYours
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Originally posted by Sammi
I like this idea, since I don't think there's an easy way to search off the vrooms and bees.
I agree with Carrie Ann, Leical and Sammi, the tags have been difficult for me to use because they seem to describe subjective things that may not apply for everyone. Having more product descriptive tags like what they suggested would be so much more useful to me as a reviewer and as a customer for searching purposes.
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