Extremely Useful vs. Useful

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Extremely Useful vs. Useful

MuffysPinguLove MuffysPinguLove
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When I'm browsing reviews I like to read them, rate them, and then see what other people have rated the reviews. Usually the way I rate a review will end up being similar to the way that other reviewers rate it. Sometimes though I find myself very impressed with a review only to find that the majority of reviewers only find it to be useful. Other times I'll think a review is only useful, but I find that most people think it is extremely useful. These differences in opinion make me wonder how other reviewers decide between rating a review as useful or extremely useful. So, my question to you is what do you look for in an extremely useful review as compared to a useful review?
11/13/2009
SilverVixen SilverVixen
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Originally posted by MuffysPinguLove
When I'm browsing reviews I like to read them, rate them, and then see what other people have rated the reviews. Usually the way I rate a review will end up being similar to the way that other reviewers rate it. Sometimes though I find myself very ... More
Cool question !

If someone displays an overall good intention or basically *attempts* to inform and include a good bit of information about the product they are reviewing then I will generally rate something 'useful'. Useful to me is better than lousy and/or incomplete. If it helps a buyer to any higher degree, I think it can be useful.

Extremely useful for me is something I reserve for a complete review. Complete doesn't necessarily have to mean a long review following a template either. I've rated useful on an occasional long, templated review simply because the author included so much "visual" erotic imagery and little to no tangible product information it actually made the review seem nothing like a review whatsoever!

What you might be seeing to in some cases (I believe) is that follow up reviews can be rated as well. Which means if you have a short follow up review it may be rated "Useful" and that vote will count along with all of your other votes as a whole. It's a little weird to have it that way, but that may be what you are seeing. I could be wrong though!

Anyhow, if you read something and say man that was a good review and you aren't left feeling gyped, I say go for "extremely". Anything that leaves you feeling a little unsatisfied, maybe leave advice first to see if they are willing to work on the review. You can always rate later. If not vote as you see fit!
11/13/2009
Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
The difference, to me, usually comes down to whether I "feel" it or not. A reviewer can include all the necessary information but do it in a really unimpressive way, sometimes. Maybe it's boring or rushed or doesn't flow perfectly. That will get only a useful because it just didn't blow me away.

On the other hand, sometimes a reviewer includes a bit of extra info about the product/body/company/u se that really sets it above and I consider that extremely useful. It's a fine line, though
11/13/2009
Sleeping Dreamer Sleeping Dreamer
It's all about personal preference.

If I learn something new or someone gives a complete detailed profile on the toy while convincing me WHY I want to avoid or buy the toy, I'm going to rate it extremely useful.

Useful reviews usually present the facts and all reliable information but they can't sell me on the idea of the toy because I'm not even sure they can sell themselves on it.

It's easy for me to tell the reviews that reviewers invest in and the others that are half-assed and seem like they were in a rush to pump it out. If I feel rushed reading than it's not really useful, I want to be captured and as a consumer, I want to feel like I have to buy it now and that it's a product I can't live without!
11/13/2009
Rockin' Rockin'
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Originally posted by Adriana Ravenlust
The difference, to me, usually comes down to whether I "feel" it or not. A reviewer can include all the necessary information but do it in a really unimpressive way, sometimes. Maybe it's boring or rushed or doesn't flow perfectly. That will get only ... More
Adriana and I have similar ways of determining "extremely useful." And I don't have a better explanation than "If I feel it." Some reviews are just very well written and I have a moment while reading it that I'm like "Wow!" and provided all the required/expected info is there, it'll get an extremely useful. The "wow" can come from really good phrasing, terrific explanation/descriptio ns, extra info that I thought I'd have to ask about, or something else that's unexpected but greatly appreciated.

But most reviews don't "wow" me, and if I'm wavering, I'll go with "useful," especially now with the public voting and a lot of people seemingly voting a bit higher on average than normal.
11/13/2009
Miss Cinnamon Miss Cinnamon
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Originally posted by Rockin'
Adriana and I have similar ways of determining "extremely useful." And I don't have a better explanation than "If I feel it." Some reviews are just very well written and I have a moment while reading it that I'm like "Wow!" and provided all the ... More
Yup. Pretty much my thought process too
11/13/2009
Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
For me, it's easy.

Extremely useful means I come away with no real questions about the toy other than "will I like it?"

Useful means most everything was covered but I may have a question.

And so it goes, on down the list.

I do not expect reviews to sell me on a product but I do expect them to include enough info that I can make a good decision.
11/13/2009
Luscious Lily Luscious Lily
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
For me, it's easy.

Extremely useful means I come away with no real questions about the toy other than "will I like it?"

Useful means most everything was covered but I may have a question.

And so it goes, on down the ... More
I'm with Carrie Ann. Our job is to write reviews that help people make informed decisions about whether or not to try a product. It's not our job to "sell" the toys, though we're certainly not prohibited from doing so if that's how we feel about a toy. But I'm certainly not going to sell someone on a toy I'm not crazy about.

And, like Rockin', sometimes it's just something I feel. The review comes across so well because not only do they answer all of my questions, but it's well written.
11/13/2009
Sir Sir
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
For me, it's easy.

Extremely useful means I come away with no real questions about the toy other than "will I like it?"

Useful means most everything was covered but I may have a question.

And so it goes, on down the ... More
I agree with you, Carrie Ann.
11/13/2009
EffinSara EffinSara
To me, an extremely useful review is one that makes me feel like I went to a store and actually got a chance to play with the product in person. It also makes an attempt to look at the big picture. A review that describes only the reviewer's experiences with the toy (e.g. This butt plug is too big! It sucks!) without any attempt to think of why he/she as an individual liked/disliked it, or to think of what kinds of people/situations it might be good/bad for (Maybe this butt plug would be better for more advanced users)... that's not useful to me. Even if the reviewer is completely different from me in all respects, I should still feel like I might have an idea of how the product would be for me.

Style also feeds into the equation. A review that was a chore to read because of bad writing or spelling and punctuation errors is not going to be ranked as extremely useful even if all of the information is there.
11/13/2009
Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
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Originally posted by EffinSara
To me, an extremely useful review is one that makes me feel like I went to a store and actually got a chance to play with the product in person. It also makes an attempt to look at the big picture. A review that describes only the reviewer's ... More
Exactly on your last point. I don't have a lost of patience so if your spelling it shitty I will STOP reading it and vote you low.
11/13/2009
Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
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Originally posted by Adriana Ravenlust
Exactly on your last point. I don't have a lost of patience so if your spelling it shitty I will STOP reading it and vote you low.
is shitty, haha. Foot.in.mouth.
11/13/2009
Liz NuMe Liz NuMe
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Originally posted by Adriana Ravenlust
Exactly on your last point. I don't have a lost of patience so if your spelling it shitty I will STOP reading it and vote you low.
"lost of patience"? LOL! Nothing like a type when you're talking about poor spelling.
11/13/2009
Liz NuMe Liz NuMe
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Originally posted by Liz NuMe
"lost of patience"? LOL! Nothing like a type when you're talking about poor spelling.
And then I typed a "typo"
11/13/2009
Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
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Originally posted by Liz NuMe
"lost of patience"? LOL! Nothing like a type when you're talking about poor spelling.
SHUT UP. LOL That was.. a gimpy post on my part.
11/13/2009
MuffysPinguLove MuffysPinguLove
I agree with many of your opinions about the difference between rating a review as useful or extremely useful. Personally I like to rate a review as extremely useful if I find myself impressed. Often the reviews that I rate extremely useful make me want to work on making my own reviews even better. The review has to flow well too, if I find a review to be choppy I tend to lose interest. Thanks for all the great feedback on this question! It's nice to know whats going through other reviewers minds when rating reviews
11/13/2009
Laurel Laurel
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Originally posted by Adriana Ravenlust
SHUT UP. LOL That was.. a gimpy post on my part.
I am laughing. Both at you AND newme 21.

But don't feel bad. As the person whose job it is to read almost every review published on this site, I can say that not one EF reviewer has managed to maintain a typo-free existence, 100% of the time.
11/16/2009
Liz NuMe Liz NuMe
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Originally posted by Laurel
I am laughing. Both at you AND newme 21.

But don't feel bad. As the person whose job it is to read almost every review published on this site, I can say that not one EF reviewer has managed to maintain a typo-free existence, 100% of the time.
That's ok I was laughing about it too.
11/16/2009
Owl Identified Owl Identified
I really don't like the idea of having an arbitrary system of judgment when it comes to rating: ratings affect contributors' general ratings as well as how customers weight the review. Those things are fairly serious. I don't take rating reviews lightly because I know time goes into their making and purchases are based on them (and their reception).

I personally am a little turned off by the idea of something "not feeling right" and it being voted down as a result. If you are not conscious of the reason why, you may be voting based on something very biased. To me it's not fair or professional to give a "useful" rating to a review that includes everything, has no apparent flaws, but didn't make you "feel" some ambiguous thing. That also makes it difficult for reviewers such as myself to improve: if we don't have a critique, we can't become better.

I also think that syntax/rules of written English/blabla are important; if you can't understand the review then you can't take anything away from it. However, it's important to keep the intended function of grammar in mind. The function of grammar is not to give a false sense of superiority to people that have the privilege of education/the kind of mind that is able to "perfectly" apprehend all of its devices. The function of grammar is to provide a standard that organizes written and spoken language so that we aren't all speaking or own little languages. In other words, so we can understand one another. So I don't really care if someone misspells a few words so long as the interview is coherent and the mistakes aren't distracting.

All that said, I more or less adhere to Carrie Ann's guidelines with a slight alteration. I ask a lot of questions, so my criteria is more like "Am I left with questions about major issues like material, cleaning, functions, use, etc?" I can come up with a question for pretty much everything.
11/16/2009
Owl Identified Owl Identified
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Originally posted by Owl Identified
I really don't like the idea of having an arbitrary system of judgment when it comes to rating: ratings affect contributors' general ratings as well as how customers weight the review. Those things are fairly serious. I don't take rating reviews ... More
*our own little languages
11/16/2009
Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
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Originally posted by Owl Identified
I really don't like the idea of having an arbitrary system of judgment when it comes to rating: ratings affect contributors' general ratings as well as how customers weight the review. Those things are fairly serious. I don't take rating reviews ... More
If you're implying that those of us who vote by "feel" do so frivolously, I'm not sure I agree. I realize how I vote affects others but, then, so does how they vote. I'm not talking about the difference between a review which I find not useful at all or a review which is extremely useful. I am speaking of reviews which may or may not be presented in such a way that pushes them over the edge into extremely useful-land. Otherwise, it will still at least get a useful vote - assuming it includes all the information. To me, that's not voting down, just not voting up. There are absolutely reviews which do include a plethora of information but I can leave not really feeling like I have learned anything else or that the review didn't help me make a decision as a customer.

Not only is that reflected in how I vote, but I absolutely expect it as a reviewer. I do not expect to be able to improve so that everyone will always vote my reviews extremely useful. I appreciate comments if I have made an error in my information (or by omission) but I expect that sometimes people just won't be able to put their finger on what doesn't make my review amazing. Oh well. Try again next time.
11/16/2009
Liz2 Liz2
When I vote, I do not check on prior votes first. If the review makes me feel like I now know the product, good or bad, I will vote extremely useful.
I usually only have the time to read reviews of toys that I may be interested in or toys that I already have.
11/16/2009
Liz2 Liz2
I have always felt that "not useful" votes many times may be from people just not attracted to certain kinds of play....double dills, harnesses, cuffs, restraints and even anal toys. I have noticed that anal toys are now more main stream then in the past.
11/16/2009
Gary Gary
I suggested that we do away with 'useful' and 'extremely useful' altogether and replace them with 'Bad Ass!' and 'Super Ultra Mega Bad Ass!' but due to character limitations, we had stick with the old rating system
11/16/2009
Dragon Dragon
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Originally posted by Gary
I suggested that we do away with 'useful' and 'extremely useful' altogether and replace them with 'Bad Ass!' and 'Super Ultra Mega Bad Ass!' but due to character limitations, we had stick with the old rating system
You need to talk to Neuron Geek! He's the God...
11/16/2009
Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
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Originally posted by Gary
I suggested that we do away with 'useful' and 'extremely useful' altogether and replace them with 'Bad Ass!' and 'Super Ultra Mega Bad Ass!' but due to character limitations, we had stick with the old rating system
Funny. Although, perhaps a slight rename (but same meaning) would make it easier to vote
11/17/2009
JR JR
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Originally posted by Gary
I suggested that we do away with 'useful' and 'extremely useful' altogether and replace them with 'Bad Ass!' and 'Super Ultra Mega Bad Ass!' but due to character limitations, we had stick with the old rating system
When I read this I couldn't help but hear Megaman's voice!
11/17/2009
Gary Gary
I don't know why, but... now I am picturing an 8-bit NES game called 'Dildo Town'.
11/17/2009
Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
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Originally posted by Gary
I don't know why, but... now I am picturing an 8-bit NES game called 'Dildo Town'.
Hehehehe
11/17/2009
~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
For me I have pretty set guidelines for what is needed to get certain rates from me.

Extremely useful hits all the points and categories and leaves pretty much nothing or very little out. A review that has creativity and links/videos ect. also deserves this if it is relative.

It comes down to effort. Much like Adriana said, it has to have something extra.
12/29/2009
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