Question About Ranking System

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Question About Ranking System

BlessedRaven BlessedRaven
I've been going around the site for the little bit and reading other people's reviews. There is something I don't understand. I'll come across someone's review, read it, and rate it. I've noticed that sometimes the rating at the top will say "Useful Review" with a pink meter. That's just an example, but lets say I thought it was extremely useful and voted. I'll see that 22 other people have voted it as extremely useful as well. Then that confuses me. Why is a review considered only "useful" if a majority of people found it to be different. Is it because the first few people only felt it was useful?
02/08/2010
Heartthrob Heartthrob
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Originally posted by BlessedRaven
I've been going around the site for the little bit and reading other people's reviews. There is something I don't understand. I'll come across someone's review, read it, and rate it. I've noticed that sometimes the rating at the top will say "Useful ... More
I always thought it was the average of all the ratings put together.
02/08/2010
BlessedRaven BlessedRaven
Here are some examples of some where there are a lot of very high votes compared to a few low ones. Maybe I'm just not very good with the math.

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02/08/2010
Liz NuMe Liz NuMe
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Originally posted by BlessedRaven
Here are some examples of some where there are a lot of very high votes compared to a few low ones. Maybe I'm just not very good with the math.

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If you know how averages work mathematically you can do the math and see that they are correct. I tested this with the third one and it was right.
02/08/2010
Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Just read the first one.

Guess averages, but still, It is a pain, but a logical system.

On a side note, I think if a review has more than 20 votes as extremely useful, and maybe 10 useful, and someone comes along and votes "not useful at all" I think they should be have their voting rights taken away and banned... but that is a personal thought.

I think if you vote "not useful at all" you should be required to comment, however it could cause some hurt feelings if someone does not use kindness.
02/08/2010
BlessedRaven BlessedRaven
Sorry. Yeah, I ended up doing the math on one of them 76% seems useful. Art school doesn't make you take any math courses. So, strangely enough I have been forgetting a lot of it after 3 years. I didn't realized how much a not useful at all rating hurt a review! o.o
02/09/2010
Jimbo Jones Jimbo Jones
I noticed you have been adding "extremely useful" votes to a lot of my reviews and I appreciate it. It used to be that voting was anonymous and so some people would rate a review low (presumably to lower other rankings thus helping their own) but that seems to have stopped and probably won't really happen again now that our names remain listed on the voting. Accountability breeds honesty. They are averaged, so for every "not useful at all ranking" it averages against each "extremely useful" to result in a "somewhat useful". An "extremely useful" average is difficult to maintain with a couple of bad votes.
02/09/2010
BlessedRaven BlessedRaven
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Originally posted by Jimbo Jones
I noticed you have been adding "extremely useful" votes to a lot of my reviews and I appreciate it. It used to be that voting was anonymous and so some people would rate a review low (presumably to lower other rankings thus helping their own) but ... More
In the past how would rating someone's review lower help their own? I thought only votes on each individual user helped that user. Did people used to rate someone lower to help them become experts in an area? Thanks for the incite.


I usually try to read and/or skim everyone's reviews who I have come across/follow. Yours are really nice. Still haven't gotten through everyone I'm following. There has been a few I've given lower ratings on. Usually there is reason though. The lowest I've given a rating to was a review of an item before it was received. :\
02/09/2010
Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
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Originally posted by Jimbo Jones
I noticed you have been adding "extremely useful" votes to a lot of my reviews and I appreciate it. It used to be that voting was anonymous and so some people would rate a review low (presumably to lower other rankings thus helping their own) but ... More
Publicity also breeds fear. I believe votes were far more accurate before.
02/10/2010
LikeSunshineDust LikeSunshineDust
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Originally posted by Adriana Ravenlust
Publicity also breeds fear. I believe votes were far more accurate before.
I agree. I find my own voting less honest. If I don't find a review useful, I tend not to vote at all.
02/10/2010
Jimbo Jones Jimbo Jones
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Originally posted by BlessedRaven
In the past how would rating someone's review lower help their own? I thought only votes on each individual user helped that user. Did people used to rate someone lower to help them become experts in an area? Thanks for the incite.


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The ranking system is all based on a curve, so in some ways it is inherently competitive. A person with a lot of reviews in the past year (Carrie Ann for instance) will set the curve. Everyone below her works off of that curve. Rating highly ranked people lower might help to lower that curve, or at least that is what some people used to act on. You'll notice that the people that have been here for a while that are ranked highly have some bad ratings on their older reviews. For other examples, look at Carrie Ann's, Sleeping Dreamer's, and even Adriana Ravenlust's older reviews.
02/10/2010
JR JR
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Originally posted by LikeSunshineDust
I agree. I find my own voting less honest. If I don't find a review useful, I tend not to vote at all.
ditto, but I wouldn't use "less honest", rather "less active"
02/10/2010
LikeSunshineDust LikeSunshineDust
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Originally posted by JR
ditto, but I wouldn't use "less honest", rather "less active"
Yea, that is a better way to put it.
02/10/2010
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