Spelling Mistakes on Reviews

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Spelling Mistakes on Reviews

Knotty Scout Knotty Scout
Heyas folks. I've noticed lately an increase in spelling mistakes in our reviews. All of the mistakes were ones that would fly under the radar of a spellchecker though - is there any way to report these so we can get them fixed?
07/18/2008
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TexasBrat TexasBrat
When I write, whether it's a letter, post, or whatever, I like to re-read what I've written out loud to see if it makes grammatical sense. I also like to write stuff out on MS Word/Wordpad, to make sure that a tough spell-checker catches some possible issues. Then, you can always copy and paste it. I keep copies of everything I write, to see how I grow as a semi-author. It's kinda neat to see how one's progress develops.
07/18/2008
Cock Wrangler Cock Wrangler
I would recommend TexasBrat's method- writing in a word program first gives you a chance to really look over those things and catch your mistakes.
Additionally, you can always email the editor (editor@edenfantasys.c om) about them, but I doubt they'll go through and fix everything...
07/18/2008
Knotty Scout Knotty Scout
Right. I wasn't necessarily my own reviews (but thinking on it - has me itching to go back and recheck ) its just that recently I've noticed a significant increase.
07/18/2008
Program Manager Program Manager
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Originally posted by Knotty Scout
Right. I wasn't necessarily my own reviews (but thinking on it - has me itching to go back and recheck ) its just that recently I've noticed a significant increase.
You're right, there isn't a great bottom line in reviews right now. I think we need to update our internal spell checker to make it more functional for people.
07/18/2008
Bulma Bulma
I have found the opposite problem when I am writing a review. I always write in word and then re-read it like five times before I copy and paste it over into the actual review form. No matter how many times I go through and check the spelling it always says there are spelling errors. Is it because I use some slang or more expressive words that are not exactly grammatically correct. Words like cunt, ummm, minty, lol, and several others. Names of items are almost always "wrong" as they like to change the correct spelling to something that is more "cool."

Knotty Scout, I am wondering exactly what you are talking about. Is it the reviews that have one or two spelling errors? Or are you talking about the reviews that almost every word is spelled wrong and there is no use of grammer? Also, what kind of spelling errors? Write instead of right? Or slang, or wrods taht aer speled lik this? Just would like to be sure I know exactly what you are talking about. One or two mistakes in an otherwise good review doesn't bother me at all. If a review is written so badly that I can't understand it, I just rate it honestly. "not useful at all" although I rarely run across this.
07/18/2008
Bulma Bulma
ha ha, I spelled grammar wrong. Sorry.
07/18/2008
Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
I use firefox and it has a built in spell checker. I find that EF notifies me mostly when I'm using slang or sexual terms that might not be mainstream.

I find it a bit annoying that the review process has a built in spell checker but it doesn't actually work as you're typing, only when you're finished. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

I just read a review that was absolutely horrid. It wasn't spelling as much as grammar. It was obvious that the author didn't know the difference between homophones and it just made me cringe.
07/20/2008
Jimbo Jones Jimbo Jones
There have been times that I have wondered if English is not the first language of some of the reviewers, so I mentally cut them a break, but it is important to proof read and check spelling ourselves.
07/20/2008
Epiphora Epiphora
I'm split on my feelings about this. On one hand, it would be nice for people to notice if they have a couple of errors. On the other hand, I feel that if people aren't going to use Word or check the spelling themselves, and their reviews are ridden with problems, then it's better that we know they don't care that much so they don't get promoted to advanced reviewers.
07/21/2008
Bulma Bulma
I was thinking on this while writing a couple reviews today, and realized that there a lot of new names popping up that I don't know. Like Epiphora stated though, the people who don't care about the quality of their reviews won't get promoted to advanced reviewers. I do however believe that there are just more people joining the review program, period. It seems like every day there are a couple of reviews from people I have never seen before. With so many joining, there are bound to be some that just aren't up to par. Maybe people think the reviews don't need to be readable in order to get free toys? Maybe that “well written, copy edited” part missed them? I would hope that if I put out a bad review, someone would shoot me a message asking me what the heck was going on. I try not to write while I am drunk…but things happen you know
07/21/2008
Jimbo Jones Jimbo Jones
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Originally posted by Bulma
I was thinking on this while writing a couple reviews today, and realized that there a lot of new names popping up that I don't know. Like Epiphora stated though, the people who don't care about the quality of their reviews won't get ...
Well actually, the number of new people coming in has slowed down some from when it peaked in April of this year. The new program changes might be responsible for that, but I would think that it would still important that people try to establish themselves as decent writers in order to qualify to be part of the review program.
07/21/2008
Knotty Scout Knotty Scout
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Originally posted by Bulma
I have found the opposite problem when I am writing a review. I always write in word and then re-read it like five times before I copy and paste it over into the actual review form. No matter how many times I go through and check the spelling it ...
it is usually a misuse of homophones, or typos that are spelled incorrectly as other correctly spelled words so that the spellcheck misses them.
07/21/2008
Knotty Scout Knotty Scout
Bah, i think i dropped a post somewhere.

In any case, like adrianna mentioned - it's usually the misuse of homophones, or typos that were actual words - so they went under the spellchecks radar.

I have a list on my other computer of links - but I'm not on my laptop now...but the day I posted that message I read 4 new reviews with errors in them. I think that is pretty significant.
07/21/2008
Bulma Bulma
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Originally posted by Knotty Scout
Bah, i think i dropped a post somewhere.In any case, like adrianna mentioned - it's usually the misuse of homophones, or typos that were actual words - so they went under the spellchecks radar.I have a list on my other computer of links - but ...
I have noticed it too, was just curious what specifically was annoying. Thanks for answering my question. I do agree that there are quite a few horrid reviews, and it is annoying to me as well. I don't quite get the mentality behind it, as I would be horribly embarrassed if people thought my reviews were horridly written.

Jimbo- Sorry, I wasn't here in April. I joined the first of June, and am talking about the number of reviewers I have seen in that time. Sadly, my old vibe didn't break until the middle of may, or I would have joined sooner

Another thing I have been wondering, do the reviews that get a massive amount of "not useful at all" votes get taken off the website? I had read one particular review that I couldn't understand even what the person was talking about. I rated it not useful and saw that several other people had as well. I later went back and was looking at that toy (don't remember what it was right now, obviously I didn't end up buying it) and saw that there were no reviews for that toy. Does this happen very often, or was I just mistaken? If that review was removed, thank you!
07/21/2008
Jimbo Jones Jimbo Jones
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Originally posted by Bulma
I have noticed it too, was just curious what specifically was annoying. Thanks for answering my question. I do agree that there are quite a few horrid reviews, and it is annoying to me as well. I don't quite get the mentality behind it, as I ...
Well, since you just joined in June, you are one of 95 reviewers whose first review posted that month.
As of yesterday, 55 reviewers have had their first review in the month of July. If that pace continues for the rest of the month, then there will be fewer in July than there was in June.
Yes, I too consider myself crazy for keeping track of this information.
My records indicate that reviews are occasionally removed, but it doesn't happen very often.
07/22/2008
Bulma Bulma
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Originally posted by Jimbo Jones
Well, since you just joined in June, you are one of 95 reviewers whose first review posted that month.As of yesterday, 55 reviewers have had their first review in the month of July. If that pace continues for the rest of the month, then there will be ...
My original point was that when there are a large number of reviewers joining (and I would consider anything over 1 per day to be in that category) that there are bound to be people that don’t pay any attention to the guidelines or rules involved with the review process. I never said that there were more reviewers joining this month than last month. In fact, I never gave a specific duration of time, because I was talking more about longer periods of time as apposed to short periods of time, like months. What I said was “I do however believe that there are just more people joining the review program, period.” I guess I should have been much more specific. My focus wasn't really on the number of people joining, rather that there are bound to be careless reviewers when there are a large number of them. And yes, I realize that there might be a larger percentage of badly written reviews now than there might have been in April, but that doesn't change the fact that a large number of people could potentially mean a large number of bad reviews. In my last reply to you I was trying to clear up that I was only going off of what I personally had seen. I consider 50 new reviewers in a month to be a large number. Seems like a lot of interest in the program, even if it’s not as much as it was a couple of months ago. In case you thought I was trying to argue with you, let me clear that up now. I was not trying to argue with anyone. I was only giving my opinion and thoughts based off of what I had seen.

While I am on the site many times throughout the day, I honestly don’t have the time to keep track of reviewers that join; I think I would just leave that up to you anyway Sorry my posts weren’t clear enough and I wasn’t able to get my point across the way that I had intended.
07/22/2008
Jimbo Jones Jimbo Jones
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Originally posted by Bulma
My original point was that when there are a large number of reviewers joining (and I would consider anything over 1 per day to be in that category) that there are bound to be people that don’t pay any attention to the guidelines or rules involved ...
Well said.
I apologize if I came across as being argumentative. I was just stating facts as I saw them. The number of reviewers being added each month has been pretty high (greater than 1 per day) since last October. However, lately it does seem that there are more with spelling and grammar errors. I think some of that has to do with changes to the reviewer program in general and some of it has to do with the sheer quantity of new reviewers. With the way the review program is currently operating, it is very important that the reviewer carefully check their review or there will undoubtedly be typos and grammar problems. Bulma, I appreciate how well written your reviews are and how enjoyable they are to read.
As far as keeping track of reviewers, I kind of enjoy it and generally I come in once a day to update my records with what took place the previous day, so I only have to be on once a day for about 15 minutes to do that. Any amount of time I spend on here beyond that is for fun and because I am not busy some where else.
07/23/2008
Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
Would it be feasible to add an editor to the staff team? Hell, I'll volunteer. LOL I'm not sure what the approval process all entails but it's obvious that there are some changes being made to our reviews (like links added to appropriate sections on the site) but editing isn't one of these things? It might be smart to include that.

The problem with leaving it entirely up to the reviewer is that even if I reread my review 100 times and first write it in a program like word, if I do not have a strong grasp of the English language, this will not help.
07/23/2008
Bulma Bulma
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Originally posted by Jimbo Jones
Well said.I apologize if I came across as being argumentative. I was just stating facts as I saw them. The number of reviewers being added each month has been pretty high (greater than 1 per day) since last October. However, lately it does seem that ...
Ha, I assumed it would take a lot longer than that. I spend more than 15 minutes on the site! I kind of had this picture in my head that it took 30 plus minutes a day. I am guessing that you just check the "just joined" tab by the "top reviewers" tab? At least that is what I would assume would be the easiest unless more than 5 people joined that day. And no, I don't think you're crazy at all for keeping track. At least if I'm ever curious how many new reviewers joined within a given month, I know who to ask
07/23/2008
Bulma Bulma
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Originally posted by Adriana Ravenlust
Would it be feasible to add an editor to the staff team? Hell, I'll volunteer. LOL I'm not sure what the approval process all entails but it's obvious that there are some changes being made to our reviews (like links added to appropriate ...
I see what you mean, only I think that once a review gets to a certain point it should just be removed. Having someone to edit reviews would be a good idea if they only had to fix a few mistakes. Reviewers should still be responsible for their own reviews. Someone to go through and edit...I can see that being a full time job unless it was split up among several people. I think there is an appeal though, with the whole "reviews from real people" thing going on, and having someone edit the reviews could take away from that. If I notice a mistake after I've published a review, I just tell myself that one little mistake will help people to remember that a pro didn't write it. lol In my last review I put "you" instead of "your" in the summary. That'll teach me to write reviews late at night. I swore that I read that thing at least 5 times and once out loud even. lol Gets me to thinking about how great it would be if I could go back and edit my own reviews. I would fix that in a heart beat.
07/23/2008
Jimbo Jones Jimbo Jones
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Originally posted by Bulma
Ha, I assumed it would take a lot longer than that. I spend more than 15 minutes on the site! I kind of had this picture in my head that it took 30 plus minutes a day. I am guessing that you just check the "just joined" tab by the ...
Oh, don't get me wrong, I usually spend more time than that each day on the site, but if I want to do the minimal amount then it only takes 15 minutes. I actually track all of the reviews not just the new reviewers, but to get the data out it only takes a few minutes. I'll be happy to provide review statistics any time you want.
07/23/2008
TexasBrat TexasBrat
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Originally posted by Bulma
I have found the opposite problem when I am writing a review. I always write in word and then re-read it like five times before I copy and paste it over into the actual review form. No matter how many times I go through and check the spelling it ...
With the slang words, you can add those to your MS Word, when going thru and doing an actual Spell Check. That way, once you add it, your slangs won't pop up as incorrect. I think that the more words are spelled correctly, and the sentences are put together well, it also instills a sense of knowlegeable people. My parents were teachers, so, that's the way I was brought up. I'm probably a bit too "anal" with my writing, for my own good sometimes! LOL
07/28/2008
Bulma Bulma
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Originally posted by TexasBrat
With the slang words, you can add those to your MS Word, when going thru and doing an actual Spell Check. That way, once you add it, your slangs won't pop up as incorrect. I think that the more words are spelled correctly, and the sentences are ...
I have added the slang words I use to my MS Word. I write it up, edit, then copy over into the correct fields on the website. When I click continue, it comes back saying there are spelling errors and to check the box to ignore them. When I go to submit the review is what I was talking about. I have also added common slang words to the spell checker in Firefox, so it's just the spell checker for the site. Admins have said this was going to be fixed though, so no worries there.
08/22/2008
Betty Rocket Betty Rocket
Don't want to stir the pot, just wanted to show my concern. The quality of reviews from some of the new folks is just not what it was. I just read a review that made me cringe.
Before I say this, let me reiterate that I am NOT perfect and I do make mistakes, so please do not think I am on my high horse.

I, in my humble opinion, believe that the persons selected to review here should be a little more serious as writers then the average joe who just wants free toys. Of course the toys are fun, but I enjoy writing. That's why I am here. It's a venue for me, an outlet. I hope others feel the same.
08/23/2008
Bulma Bulma
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Originally posted by Betty Rocket
Don't want to stir the pot, just wanted to show my concern. The quality of reviews from some of the new folks is just not what it was. I just read a review that made me cringe.Before I say this, let me reiterate that I am NOT perfect and I do ...
I do The review writing is my little thing away from the kids. I don't know what I'd do without the creative outlet, and yeah, free toys are always nice too but not exactly the driving force.
08/26/2008
BeeLeaveMe BeeLeaveMe
I am a fairly new member. I have only been on the site a few months. I look back on my first review now and I realize how atrocious it really is. When you are new to the site it took me a few times to really understand what the site was looking for in reviews. I plan to do plenty more reviews and I am now starting to get way more involved in the site. I believe that's all you really need to do. If you really care about the site then you'll spell check your work. I use word and Firefox and still have had some stuff come up wrong. I think instead of spelling 'smell' I accidentally put in 'small' and the spell checker didn't catch it. There's really nothing you can do unless there was someone going over each review to check for things like that. I don't think free toys are the driving force for me. I'm a reviewer and don't get free toys. Yes, I was denied! I don't really care about that though. I know I need to be more active and improve my future reviewings. You'd never know I took a million writing classes in college. Whenever I feel like I'm ready to take reviewing on more aggressively I will ask the administrator to reconsider me, but until I feel more comfortable on the site I'm not going to ask. So I guess my point is, some people really do want to be informative and creative but it's hard for newer members to get the feel for what is asked.
09/03/2008
Program Manager Program Manager
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Originally posted by BeeLeaveMe
I am a fairly new member. I have only been on the site a few months. I look back on my first review now and I realize how atrocious it really is. When you are new to the site it took me a few times to really understand what the site was looking ...
Thanks for your input here- it's true, I see great development from new reviewers in a short period of time. Definitely email when you're ready for more.
09/03/2008
BeeLeaveMe BeeLeaveMe
Thanks. I feels great knowing someone out there does care that it try. Another great point is that I always try to use a dictionary or thesaurus for my reviews. I use it all the time at my job and find it very useful, especially so I'm not saying the same exact words over and over again when trying to elaborate. M-W.com rocks! Does anyone else do this as well?
09/04/2008
Dragon Dragon
You know, I use Firefox and I get spelling mistakes from either Firefox or Eden that are actually words spelled correctly- product names, etc. I have to go back and hit "ignore" and wonder what the limit is to have them published.

There doesn't seem to be anyway to say which words are actually spelled right once either system declares them an error.
09/09/2008
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