How fast and hard can, or should you go with anal toys? Other safety issues?

MaouMew MaouMew
After reading this:
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TARYN THOMAS HAD AN ANAL ACCIDENT

Taryn Thomas, the porn star who plays “Snooki” in the “Jersey Shore XXX” parody, stopped by to tell the crew about her 2-year absence from porn "because of my meltdown and stuff." Taryn told the crew her meltdown followed an incident in which her intestines were "torn open" while filming an anal scene: "There was lube but it was KY jelly, and if you know anything about KY, it burns...so we used spit."

Taryn's recovery put her out of work: "I took a break until the end of May...damage was done to my ass so bad it hurt my well-being." Howard asked if she could've just done vaginal sex scenes instead, but Taryn shrugged: "What I'm known for in the business when people wanna hire me is for taking it up my ass." Taryn added that she gained almost 60lbs during her time away: "I did probably indulge in maybe one too many cheeseburgers...ultima tely I was depressed."
BACK IN THE SADDLE AGAIN

Howard joked that the porn star who ripped Taryn's bowels must have been proud of himself: "I've never hurt a woman with my penis. I've tried. It just doesn't work." Robin asked if she'd had to have her anus reconstructed, and Taryn nodded: "For the most part." Taryn said she'd since recovered and was back to filming anal scenes once again--news that overjoyed Howard: "Now that's the happy ending!"

Taryn laughed that her doctor had no idea what he was working toward: "He said I could do anal again but I don't think he knew I'd be taking two dicks up my ass." Now she takes a number of steps to prepare for anal scenes, including laxatives, "cleaning out" with a custom colonic hose attachment in her shower and the propper lube: "I swear by Eros lube." Taryn added that she rarely did anal off set, but enjoys it more, as she doesn't have to prepare as thoroughly: "I just let it fly."
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I'm worried that maybe I've been going too fast, or have been too hard, with my Lucid Heart.

Assuming proper lubrication, or even over-lubrication (Where there is literally no friction at all), what kind of risks are there with using a glass toy? What about other toys? Is friction the only cause of tearing, or other ER/doctor-required injuries? If not, what are some precautions, warning signs, and speed/hardness limitations I (Or we, I guess, since others will most likely make use of this) should know about? By hardness I mean how much force is put behind a toy, or thrust in terms of anal sex.

Also I realize that this porn star stupidly used spit rather than lube, which is... So very very dumb, but in later interviews she mentions that it happens to other porn stars.
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ScottA ScottA
If you aren't careful there is a possibility that you can perforate your intestine (or vagina, for that matter) with a hard toy. It's minimized when the toy has a rounded end, but if you thrust hard and don't let the toy track your rectum it's possible. Generally a perforated rectum happens with carelessly inserted small hard things such as enema tips, though.

Another possibility is that you bruise something internally - this is probably more likely to happen to men as the prostate is nearby and often targeted because it feels good. Wild thrusting and the wrong angle and -- ouch for a few days.

Even well lubed toys can tear the anal sphincter if they're forced in a clenched anus. Go slow and relax around the toy.

What makes you think that you're using your toy too fast or hard?
06/29/2010
El-Jaro El-Jaro
That just scares me.

Since the anus doesn't have the same nerves as the vagina, you'd think the speed/force would be different.

I'd suggest just taking it slow (1 toy/penis at a time) and avoid any vigorous motions. Use lube...LOTS of lube.
06/29/2010
MaouMew MaouMew
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Originally posted by ScottA
If you aren't careful there is a possibility that you can perforate your intestine (or vagina, for that matter) with a hard toy. It's minimized when the toy has a rounded end, but if you thrust hard and don't let the toy track your rectum ... More
Everything I own is completely smooth and round, especially the Lucid Heart which is the only thing I use now'a'days. And what makes me think I'm going too fast/hard, is that sometimes I just get into the moment. It never hurts (Except for maybe a slightly bruised prostate that is slightly sore for a few hours every once in awhile), but after reading that story I'm really paranoid. Is it safe to go as fast as you want when lubed up, warmed up, with a proper angle and smooth toy? I'm not talking about jackhammer speeds, but just the limitations of how fast you can move without wearing yourself out within a minute. Maybe 2-4 strokes per second at the ABSOLUTE fastest. Is that too fast?

And JR: Yeah, that story is terrifying lol. As for avoiding vigorous motions, what do you mean? Is it really a bad idea to do anything other than slow gentle strokes the entire session? I can't find any concrete information on the subject.
06/29/2010
El-Jaro El-Jaro
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Originally posted by MaouMew
Everything I own is completely smooth and round, especially the Lucid Heart which is the only thing I use now'a'days. And what makes me think I'm going too fast/hard, is that sometimes I just get into the moment. It never hurts (Except ... More
more of a "how comfortable to you feel about jabbing a hard thing in your soft bits" question. It's all on comfort levels.
06/29/2010
ScottA ScottA
Provided that the toy follows the rectum and you're sufficiently relaxed and lubed you can go pretty fast. You might get some irritation at the anus from the rubbing if it gets dry or you clench too much, but that's about it.

You do need to be much more careful if you're playing around with toys that reach the top of the rectum (generally about 7" in).

Taryn's problem was lack of lube, which is a big issue. If you're not lubed up enough then the anus can tear and potentially, if things are dry enough, the lining of the intestines could be damaged as well.
06/29/2010
El-Jaro El-Jaro
Backdoor fun also sucks up a LOT of lube too, esp. water-based!
06/29/2010
MaouMew MaouMew
Okay that's reassuring. How fast does everyone here end up going? Without getting hurt that is . No matter how much I search I can't find that answer, and I have a feeling that there's a fair amount of editing involved in a lot of anal porn so that's not much help.
06/29/2010
ScottA ScottA
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Originally posted by MaouMew
Okay that's reassuring. How fast does everyone here end up going? Without getting hurt that is . No matter how much I search I can't find that answer, and I have a feeling that there's a fair amount of editing involved in a lot of anal ... More
If you're lubed, relaxed, and following the contours of the rectum you can go as fast as your hand will move. Remember to hold the toy loosely so it can track the rectum!

I've gone up to 4-5 thrusts (inward, so if you count the outward motion as a separate thrust that would be 8-10) per second, though with textured toys I can only keep that rate up for a couple minutes before the stimulation gets to be too much.

Also I find that not playing with my penis helps, as I tend to tense up with genital stimulation.
06/30/2010
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