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Contributor: the_mohawk the_mohawk
Is it worth getting Boy Butter or will plain coconut oil be just as good? I have some that i bought from a health store which is actually for cooking and is like a hard white butter that melts with body heat... the brand is Melrose.

tried the coconut oil once and noticed that the area started to get a little warm towards the end... may have been that i didnt use enough?? plus i was a little anxious about whether it would react with my skin, hence i was quite analytical of anything out of the norm...

It is mainly for masturbation and massage - male and female.
07/29/2009
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Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by the_mohawk
Is it worth getting Boy Butter or will plain coconut oil be just as good? I have some that i bought from a health store which is actually for cooking and is like a hard white butter that melts with body heat... the brand is Melrose.

tried the ... more
I can't attest to how Boy Butter works (never used it), but my partner and I have used coconut oil for years, both for massages and for sex. It lasts a good long time in any case, and it will feel a little warm after some friction because it transfers body heat quite well. Warm is ok, but if it's really burning/stinging, you might be allergic to it (test some on your inner arm under a Bandaid for a few hours to check that). It's perfectly fine to add a bit more whenever you feel like it too.

As for being ok for the skin, just be sure you get organic unrefined coconut oil and you'll be fine. In that form, it actually has antifungal and antibacterial qualities, but the refined stuff can have some nasty additives in it and/or bacterias and such from being processed wrong. Another thing to watch out for is if the label says it has to be refrigerated... that's not good. High grade coconut oil (like you want for your sensitive bits) never has to be refrigerated.
Last but not least, in our experience we have found it best to stay away from Spectrum brand oil, because it tends to take on a truly rancid smell after you use it for a few hours. I don't even want to *know* why (lol).
07/29/2009
Contributor: the_mohawk the_mohawk
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Originally posted by Alan & Michele
I can't attest to how Boy Butter works (never used it), but my partner and I have used coconut oil for years, both for massages and for sex. It lasts a good long time in any case, and it will feel a little warm after some friction because it ... more
it doesnt burn... but i have noticed that with decent friction it tends to get quite warm!

is there any other product that is recommended that doesnt contain all the bad stuff like parabens etc.?
07/29/2009
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by the_mohawk
it doesnt burn... but i have noticed that with decent friction it tends to get quite warm!

is there any other product that is recommended that doesnt contain all the bad stuff like parabens etc.?
Ah well, that's normal then.

I can't help you much with commercial lubes, because we're still testing them out trying to find one that likes us both. We've each got misc. allergies, so together it's tricky for us to find the right one. Even with the so-called "natural" ones, we've ran into some problems. For example, if you've got a latex allergy, you'll want to be very careful with anything that contains shea butter, because it can cause the same reactions for some people. Some others we've found to have parabens, which is still natural but causes problems in a lot of people. You just have to try different things and see what works.

I know a couple that swears by unrefined almond oil, which we've never tried, and another who uses unrefined olive oil. I found that olive oil gave me an infection though for some reason. Coconut oil was suggested to us by a midwife years ago, so we just sort of stuck with it.

By the way, it's not considered 'natural', but Silicone lubes work well. They just can be a bit difficult to wash off at times and aren't compatible with most silicone toys.
07/29/2009
Contributor: In Purrgatory In Purrgatory
Boy Butter's best quality (to me) is that it's semisolid, so you can get exactly as much or as little as you want. Never used coconut oil.
07/29/2009
Contributor: Jimbo Jones Jimbo Jones
I've never used straight coconut oil either, but Boy Butter is not like "hard white butter" to start off with, so that alone might make it easier to use. It is more like a soft margarine (very spreadable).
07/30/2009
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Jimbo Jones
I've never used straight coconut oil either, but Boy Butter is not like "hard white butter" to start off with, so that alone might make it easier to use. It is more like a soft margarine (very spreadable).
Well if you ever decide to try coconut oil just beware, because it's only "hard white butter" if it's somewhere cool (below 76 degrees, I think is the limit). Thus you can't count on it being "spreadable" like butter. Literally as soon as you get it in your hand, it turns to oil, and that can surprise you if you're not expecting it. Also, if your house isn't cool in the summer, it'll stay in its oil form all the time.
07/30/2009
Contributor: Backseat Boohoo Backseat Boohoo
It really depends on what you want. I like pure coconut oil because it's also great for your hair, and I oil my hair every week. However, if I were just looking for something for hand jobs, I'd probably stick with Boy Butter.
07/30/2009
Contributor: Jimbo Jones Jimbo Jones
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Originally posted by Alan & Michele
Well if you ever decide to try coconut oil just beware, because it's only "hard white butter" if it's somewhere cool (below 76 degrees, I think is the limit). Thus you can't count on it being "spreadable" like butter. ... more
Wow that sounds like pretty neat stuff. I might have to check it out sometime just for the coolness factor. Our house in the summer time is upwards of 76 degrees, so it would stay liquid outside of the refrigerator. Thanks for the info!
07/31/2009
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
Boy Butter doesn't melt like coconut oil, though. Just tried some yesterday, 90-ish heat and it was still creamy.

I'm still looking for good lubes that don't contain anything I'm sensitive to. Boy Butter doesn't have parabens, but it has something else in it that burns when I use it internally. I've got some more paraben-free lubes to test, but so far the only water-based one that doesn't cause me problems is Probe.

Coconut oil is pretty good, too, but it's a bit too runny for anal activities. Make sure you get the purest you can find, though, It's great for massage, but since it's oil you'll want to keep it away from anywhere that latex will be going.
07/31/2009
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by ScottA
Boy Butter doesn't melt like coconut oil, though. Just tried some yesterday, 90-ish heat and it was still creamy.

I'm still looking for good lubes that don't contain anything I'm sensitive to. Boy Butter doesn't have ... more
No, you're right, coconut oil isn't thick enough for anal play. For that we stick with silicone, but the downside is that we can't use certain favorite toys with it.

Funny enough, Probe is one of the first lubes we had problems with--- turned out to be the grapefruit seed extract (which burned like crazy!).
Are you keeping a journal of ingredients of the things you have problems with? And I'm talking about any and every product, not just lubes. The reason I mention this is, we originally though that a different ingredient in Probe had been the culprit, but then I tried a two new cosmetics that gave me the same burning sensation, and GSE was the only ingredient the three products shared. There's no way I would have even suspected that if I hadn't been keeping notes.
08/01/2009
Contributor: the_mohawk the_mohawk
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Originally posted by Alan & Michele
No, you're right, coconut oil isn't thick enough for anal play. For that we stick with silicone, but the downside is that we can't use certain favorite toys with it.

Funny enough, Probe is one of the first lubes we had problems ... more
Arent some silicone lubes okay with toys like Tantus products?

which silicone lubes do you recommend?
08/01/2009
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by the_mohawk
Arent some silicone lubes okay with toys like Tantus products?

which silicone lubes do you recommend?
Yes, some of them are. When I called them, the only one they could name for sure that was compatible was the Pjur line, but we're currently fond of ID Millenium silicone. On testing, ID really hazed the base of our Tantus John Doe, but it didn't require a fingernail to scrape it off or anything (like some say a lube will if it isn't compatible). However, it took LOTS of washing to get it off and the hazing remained, so we just assumed that wasn't good. Better to be safe.

We haven't had the chance to test any other silicones with our toys because right now we're saving up to get another round of water-based lubes in here for testing since we don't have one yet. It does get expensive, buying and throwing away lubes, and unfortunately none of the manufacturers that are next on our test list offers samples. What's been suggested to us (and is what we're saving for) is Swede Aqua Comfort, Sliquid Organics, and Oceanus Sensuals. I'm not crazy about an odd ingredient here and there in any of them, but I've come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a lube that doesn't use something that can cause problems. We just keep trying and hoping for the best.
08/01/2009
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
Oh! Just thought I'd mention this in case you use condoms--- if you're having trouble with parabens, stay away from Trojan's lubricated ones. They are coated with a water-based lube that contains parabens. All of the Durex line uses silicone tough.
08/01/2009
Contributor: Oggins Oggins
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Originally posted by Alan & Michele
Oh! Just thought I'd mention this in case you use condoms--- if you're having trouble with parabens, stay away from Trojan's lubricated ones. They are coated with a water-based lube that contains parabens. All of the Durex line uses silicone tough.
Thanks for mentioning the condoms! I never gave that much thought and now that you mention it, it's got me wondering just what's in them! I've recently had to give up condoms with any kind of lube anyway because my body seems to have developed a major dislike to them.

This is a great thread by the way! I've never used coconut oil either and it is starting to sound pretty amazing. I just may have to give it a try too! =)
08/01/2009
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Oggins
Thanks for mentioning the condoms! I never gave that much thought and now that you mention it, it's got me wondering just what's in them! I've recently had to give up condoms with any kind of lube anyway because my body seems to have ... more
No problem We had issues with condoms too, which is what led me to start finding out what was on/in them. Once our current supply of condoms runs out, we're going to be using the Trojan polyurethanes, rinsing all the lube off of them, and then applying our own lube instead (we actually tried this and it works!) It's a few extra steps, but worth it for me to not have to deal with reactions.

And in case you're wondering, it's because Trojan will soon be the only company who makes polyurethane condoms (Durex has discontinued theirs).
08/02/2009